Heretic_Hanar wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
I've found the perfect combination:
Reading this thread, while eating popcorn and listening to this music:
My life is perfect.
Only popcorn? Meh.
Yes, SALT POPCORN! Tons of it!
TheProtheans wrote...
And that couldn't be done by googling IT to find the info they seek.
Why do you feel the need to bump this thread for new posters to view it?
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ZerebusPrime wrote...
Yet the IT is continually attacked with the line that if the IT were true then BioWare would have released said mind bending DLC already because it makes no financial sense. I think the truth is that it makes more financial sense to sell as much regular DLC as possible first and THEN end with the bang.
Modifié par magnetite, 04 décembre 2012 - 02:04 .
TheProtheans wrote...
And that couldn't be done by googling IT to find the info they seek.
Why do you feel the need to bump this thread for new posters to view it?
Byne wrote...
And its not like we post to keep it on the front page. We post because we like discussing things.
It is also possible that BioWare will never release an IT DLC. I'd love for them to, but it is possible the actually won't add anything to the endings as they are currently.ZerebusPrime wrote...
I think it's time to touch upon a topic: at what point would it be logical for BioWare to release an overt IT DLC?
I would argue that the answer is: dead last. I would argue that because this isn't just about money; it's also about storytelling. A mind bending reveal has to come last. It's the finale. The final shock to the system. Nothing can follow it because nothing can match its impact.
Yet the IT is continually attacked with the line that if the IT were true then BioWare would have released said mind bending DLC already because it makes no financial sense. I think the truth is that it makes more financial sense to sell as much regular DLC as possible first and THEN end with the bang.
Very good points, DoomsdayDevice. I've never really considered that. Suprised i haven't by now. Hmm...DoomsdayDevice wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
if there is an option to save everyone, which there is, I will take it.
And this is exactly what the ending tries to accomplish.
The Reapers are simply exploiting the human weakness of always wanting to save everyone.
The dreams prepare you for this. In the dreams, you're hearing voices of dead companions, and you're chasing a child who, no matter how hard you try to help him, will always burn before your eyes. It's about reminding you of, and making you feel guilty for the people you couldn't save.
All of this is preparing you for the ending, where the Reapers are trying to sway you from the option that is least favourable to them, by telling you that your friends will die.
What's the number one reason non-destroyers pick their endings? They don't want to sacrifice EDI and the Geth. They want to save everyone. The Reapers are simply exploiting the human weakness of always wanting to save everyone (or at least as many as possible).
But the game (through dialogues with your squadmates) teaches you time and again that that is not always the best course of action.
The key is understanding that you can't always win and save everyone at the same time. As a military leader, sometimes you need to make the hard choices and sacrifice the few to save the many.
Garrus: If just one survivor is left standing at the end of the war, then the fight was worth it. But humans want to save everyone. In this war, that's not going to happen.
Shepard: If you'd saved them all, would things have worked out better?
Vega: I... I don't know. I don't think so.
Shepard: The right choice is usually not the easy one.
(Also: implying there are right and wrong choices!)
Salarian councilor: Sometimes Spectres have to make sacrifices. I hope you're ready to do that when the time comes.
Omega even made a point to explain this even better. It's a huge clue for understanding the ending:
Aria: Nyreen's code of ethics won't let her sit by if civilians are exposed. It's what makes her utterly predictable and easy to manipulate.
I think you should remember that the Reapers are extremely cunning and manipulative. They have brainwashed countless cycles' leaders into begging to be harvested. They do this by twisting your perception. They know how to manipulate organics, and humans are easy to manipulate either by a promise of power or by a promise of eternal peace and no more dead pals.
And that's how Bioware manipulates the player. They condition us to care for these characters, they reward us all throughout three games for choosing paragon options that create peace and harmony and ensure everybody survives. The whole point of the suicide mission was to keep as many people alive as possible. Even Omega rewards us for taking the paragon route at the reactor: even though we are prepared to sacrifice Aria and Nyreen for the many people of Omega, we can save everyone!
And then we come at the end, and it's a whole different ball game. These guys are ancient, savagely intelligent. They can influence the way our brains work in ways we don't even know. Don't even think to underestimate them. Go along with their suggestions, and you'll be in for a hell of a surprise:
Soldier: But converting other life forms into Reapers... I can't wrap my head around that.
Garrus: Makes sense to me. It ensures you never run out of cannon fodder. Eliminates any local resistance. And for every soldier you add, your enemy loses two: the one you converted, and his buddy on the other side who can't pull the trigger on a friend. (...)
Soldier: But the Reapers want to destroy us.
Garrus: And I have no intention of letting them. But If you don't respect your enemy's capabilities, you're in for one nasty surprise after another.
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Dwailing wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
I swear I just gave you an example of something new recently and as Byne said, omega only came out last week...
...yet you still say nothing of value is added. Dude, give it a rest.
BatmanTurian, I just spent 10 minutes watching your signature. Love it
Garrus is chuck norris, batman, and the punisher in space. it's true.
Yeah, I love it too. Truthfully, I stole it from someone else. I don't know who the original artist is.
It's nice, but it needs more actual Mass Effect related stuff rather than copy and pasted Chuck Norris jokes everyone has heard thousands (and thousands and thousands and thousands) of times. For instance, I suggested "The Illusive Man wants to control the Reapers because he thinks he's finally found something that can protect him from Garrus Vakarian. He's wrong."
I came up with one, "The Reapers tried to indoctrinate Shepard because they knew that if they tried to indoctrinate Garrus Vakarian his resistance would Destroy them in the real world."
I feel enough of you would have done it anyway despite contributing nothing that adds to the theory.BatmanTurian wrote...
TheProtheans wrote...
And that couldn't be done by googling IT to find the info they seek.
Why do you feel the need to bump this thread for new posters to view it?
You realize you're bumping it by posting in here, right?
CoolioThane wrote...
I was a Rin man myself, byne.
That is indeed where I thought you were going with that.Rifneno wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
Is it odd that I thought of Shale when I read this?Rifneno wrote...
byne wrote...
TheProtheans wrote...
401 Kill wrote...
Oh really, what is this superior evidence?
Numerous ones.
But the one most striking to me, some of you claim that the more time that pasts the more it proves IT.
I dont think you understand how evidence works.
I don't think it understands how doors work.
Probably because, like Shale, I was devaluing the... creature by simply calling it "it" instead of gender-specific pronouns as higher forms tend to be.
magnetite wrote...
ZerebusPrime wrote...
Yet the IT is continually attacked with the line that if the IT were true then BioWare would have released said mind bending DLC already because it makes no financial sense. I think the truth is that it makes more financial sense to sell as much regular DLC as possible first and THEN end with the bang.
Not sure if people would complain for having to pay for the ending to a game though. Oh well, creating games and content costs money. You only get so many freebies.
What has the world come to? 
byne wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
I was a Rin man myself, byne.
Emi > Rin > Hanako > Lilly > Shizune in my opinion.
So what is it you want?TheProtheans wrote...
I feel enough of you would have done it anyway despite contributing nothing that adds to the theory.BatmanTurian wrote...
TheProtheans wrote...
And that couldn't be done by googling IT to find the info they seek.
Why do you feel the need to bump this thread for new posters to view it?
You realize you're bumping it by posting in here, right?
If I digged it up on page 5, hit me.
magnetite wrote...
ZerebusPrime wrote...
Yet the IT is continually attacked with the line that if the IT were true then BioWare would have released said mind bending DLC already because it makes no financial sense. I think the truth is that it makes more financial sense to sell as much regular DLC as possible first and THEN end with the bang.
Not sure if people would complain for having to pay for the ending to a game though. Oh well, creating games and content costs money. You only get so many freebies.
Arashi08 wrote...
So what is it you want?TheProtheans wrote...
I feel enough of you would have done it anyway despite contributing nothing that adds to the theory.BatmanTurian wrote...
TheProtheans wrote...
And that couldn't be done by googling IT to find the info they seek.
Why do you feel the need to bump this thread for new posters to view it?
You realize you're bumping it by posting in here, right?
If I digged it up on page 5, hit me.
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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
So you actually support the idea of stripping the actual ending from the game and selling it back separately?
GethPrimeMKII wrote...
Of course. What troll storm would be complete without a visit from Hanar?
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