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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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I am aware how capital letters work, so thanks for the patronisation. I wasn't aware of a probe called Curiosity as I pay no interest to any world events other than sport.

No need to treat me like a retard.

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Well I named my slayer Kai Leng and I have mastered the Slayer, and Shadow.

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What did I scare everyone off because I said I mastered slayer and Shadow because both use the same moves/powers and that I named my N7 Slayer Kai Leng.

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masster blaster wrote...

What did I scare everyone off because I said I mastered slayer and Shadow because both use the same moves/powers and that I named my N7 Slayer Kai Leng.


No, you didn't kill it. By "mastered", do you mean you managed to finish gold with them?


EDIT:
Oh, and to come back to speculations, here's a Mike Gamble slighly on the edge about what seems like a legitimate request:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/232357623587037184
"Here's hoping one day someone from BioWare will explain all those questions left by ME3 that you refuse to answer."

"oh, arent you clever. just so clever."

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 06 août 2012 - 03:32 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

What did I scare everyone off because I said I mastered slayer and Shadow because both use the same moves/powers and that I named my N7 Slayer Kai Leng.


No, you didn't kill it. By "mastered", do you mean you managed to finish gold with them?


And by finished Gold, I think he means got extracted at the end.

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I named mine Kenshin, but I can't seem to masster the shadow. Tips?

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and to come back to speculations, here's a Mike Gamble slighly on the edge about what seems like a legitimate request:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/232357623587037184
"Here's hoping one day someone from BioWare will explain all those questions left by ME3 that you refuse to answer."

"oh, arent you clever. just so clever."

Maybe if they're getting sick of the constant questions they could try answering the questions.

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Yes I did Max. It was aswome. I had my N7 slayer using his electric emp power and the three others where demolishers so he kicked the geth's ***.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

What did I scare everyone off because I said I mastered slayer and Shadow because both use the same moves/powers and that I named my N7 Slayer Kai Leng.


No, you didn't kill it. By "mastered", do you mean you managed to finish gold with them?


EDIT:
Oh, and to come back to speculations, here's a Mike Gamble slighly on the edge about what seems like a legitimate request:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/232357623587037184
"Here's hoping one day someone from BioWare will explain all those questions left by ME3 that you refuse to answer."

"oh, arent you clever. just so clever."


Must get annoying being continually bothered by ****s. Mike seems like a really top bloke and is honestly trying his best to please thr fans. It's not his fault he can't say stuff.

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And I was behind cover using the typhoon and I did not upgared at all the charge forword thing Vangaurds do. So if you want to master the Slayer and Shadow you need to not upgrade a power you don't need/use.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Maybe if they're getting sick of the constant questions they could try answering the questions.

NDAs are a bit of a **** sometimes ;)
There's some stuff that just can't be answered until the all-clear comes in from head office.

Did you see Mike's "did you notice..." comments after the EC though - he confirmed in a roundabout way that all the little things we've noticed were intentional...

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TSA wasn't the first thing that Mike said was the memorial scene in Destroy?

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masster blaster wrote...

TSA wasn't the first thing that Mike said was the memorial scene in Destroy?

Well that, also the wound after the TIM battle and a few other things ;)

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TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Maybe if they're getting sick of the constant questions they could try answering the questions.

NDAs are a bit of a **** sometimes ;)
There's some stuff that just can't be answered until the all-clear comes in from head office.

Did you see Mike's "did you notice..." comments after the EC though - he confirmed in a roundabout way that all the little things we've noticed were intentional...


Maybe I should've added, that the suer tweeted his (or her) question as a reply to his tweet about the Mars rover and even phrased it (mockingly) similar.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 06 août 2012 - 03:49 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Maybe if they're getting sick of the constant questions they could try answering the questions.

NDAs are a bit of a **** sometimes ;)
There's some stuff that just can't be answered until the all-clear comes in from head office.

Did you see Mike's "did you notice..." comments after the EC though - he confirmed in a roundabout way that all the little things we've noticed were intentional...


Maybe I should've added, that the suer tweeted his (or her) question as a reply to his tweet about the Mars rover and even phrased it (mockingly) similar.


It's fascinating seeing all the people asking the same questions over and over when it's obvious they haven't finished telling the story. Like they're not gonna tell you everything on tweet if they want you to buy DLC's.

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RavenEyry wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh, and to come back to speculations, here's a Mike Gamble slighly on the edge about what seems like a legitimate request:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/232357623587037184
"Here's hoping one day someone from BioWare will explain all those questions left by ME3 that you refuse to answer."

"oh, arent you clever. just so clever."

Maybe if they're getting sick of the constant questions they could try answering the questions.



agreed. they've brought this on themselves.

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Mike gamble.

" Everything is happening as I have for seen."

But I do wonder if Casey is working on more dlc, and well maybe IT and what to do once Shepard wakes up.

Modifié par masster blaster, 06 août 2012 - 04:13 .


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It is obvious that they aren't allowed to say anything for DLC reasons and spoilers and whatever PR type thing they think they have going on. However, I think that as a loyal fan Bioware is not acting in a satisfactory way. Keeping quiet is frustrating for both sides as shown through the tweets. I don't know how clammed up they are supposed to be right now but I would really appreciate if Bioware threw the fans a bone, not a spoiler bone but some hints at least.

Edit @ blaster: So all the next DLC will be made for people named Sean? That's rather unfair.:police:

Modifié par Chriz Tah Fah, 06 août 2012 - 04:11 .


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Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

It is obvious that they aren't allowed to say anything for DLC reasons and spoilers and whatever PR type thing they think they have going on. However, I think that as a loyal fan Bioware is not acting in a satisfactory way. Keeping quiet is frustrating for both sides as shown through the tweets. I don't know how clammed up they are supposed to be right now but I would really appreciate if Bioware threw the fans a bone, not a spoiler bone but some hints at least.

Edit @ blaster: So all the next DLC will be made for people named Sean? That's rather unfair.:police:


They have given hints, but if we're close to the mark in this thread there's very little they can say without spoiling it.

To be honest, it's possibly our fault that not more material gets out - given the forensic analysis everything has had it's not surprising that they're careful with what they say or release.

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For the head bob mechanic in London, I think it's actually that it switches on and off each playthrough you do. I've done London three times on my Paragon, and the first and last both had normal crosshairs while the second had the moving ones. Also of note, the camera in the weapon mod screen on my second playthrough was wobbling while it wasn't on my first and third.

And am I the only one who names their N7 characters operative-style codenames? For instance, my Shadow is always called Obsidian and my Paladin is called Bulwark.

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Your right TSA. And that's why I think Bioware did not see the fans quickly start going straight into IT. I mean at Pax when someone asked Bioware about IT, Biowares face were turning red, and Gamble was studering and repeating the same lines he kept saying.

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Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

It is obvious that they aren't allowed to say anything for DLC reasons and spoilers and whatever PR type thing they think they have going on. However, I think that as a loyal fan Bioware is not acting in a satisfactory way. Keeping quiet is frustrating for both sides as shown through the tweets. I don't know how clammed up they are supposed to be right now but I would really appreciate if Bioware threw the fans a bone, not a spoiler bone but some hints at least.

Edit @ blaster: So all the next DLC will be made for people named Sean? That's rather unfair.:police:


Didn't Chris Priestly link to this thread when someone asked something about the ending? I don't remember well it was five months ago.

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masster blaster wrote...

Your right TSA. And that's why I think Bioware did not see the fans quickly start going straight into IT. I mean at Pax when someone asked Bioware about IT, Biowares face were turning red, and Gamble was studering and repeating the same lines he kept saying.


Nah, IT popped up when they answered the FAQs. Chris mentioned it as the last question. And given the state of BSN and the rest of the interwebs back in early April, they must've prepared for these questions like crazy.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 06 août 2012 - 04:20 .


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One point is interesting. It's hinted that the methods of indoctrination are evolving. Evolution and comments on the Citadel in ME1 show that humans are unaffected at first and can only do rudimentary and forced tasks.
Ben was in full control of himself up to the point Eva shoots the relic where he goes into a rampage and kills her, but assumes control again afterwards, he even incapacitates Desolas.
In ME1 my example would be how it's commented that new species first don't really mind the Consort but later some feel that they are compelled to work with her.

Adding to that what is presumed what the relics function is: a device to devolve the ones who touch it to be easier controlled, which doesn't fit 100% with the indoctrination methods we know. It seems they have first to analyze specimen to devise a form of indoctrination that targets the species without or with less degradation. From that I would say it's one thing that makes this theory even more valid, as Humans are still quite new for them they maybe didn't devise a perfect way to indoctrinate yet, which could lead to the struggle at the end.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

It is obvious that they aren't allowed to say anything for DLC reasons and spoilers and whatever PR type thing they think they have going on. However, I think that as a loyal fan Bioware is not acting in a satisfactory way. Keeping quiet is frustrating for both sides as shown through the tweets. I don't know how clammed up they are supposed to be right now but I would really appreciate if Bioware threw the fans a bone, not a spoiler bone but some hints at least.

Edit @ blaster: So all the next DLC will be made for people named Sean? That's rather unfair.:police:


They have given hints, but if we're close to the mark in this thread there's very little they can say without spoiling it.

To be honest, it's possibly our fault that not more material gets out - given the forensic analysis everything has had it's not surprising that they're careful with what they say or release.

They have given hints but they lie (or at least have very cryptic truth) and go back on their word so often that it's hard for a lot of people to stay positive (eg. people giving up on IT).

I don't quite agree with your second statement because Bioware was aware of our in-depth analysis of the original ending so they...add more hints into the EC?

Indoctrination is subtle and hard to catch, that is why DLC takes so long to come out because only a trained eye will catch it easily. Sure they might spend more time so that they don't make it obvious to us but for many IT fans, it already appears to be obvious.

The IT believers and supporters are the loyal fans, these are the people who stuck with Bioware even after they dumped on the endings, we believed that they meant for something better instead of writing them off as a bad company, the IT theory could save Mass Effect as an entire series. The non-fans or the people who bought Mass Effect for a 3rd person shooter could not care less about the DLC or twitter posts, any hints or bones that Bioware throws would only be recognized by us, the loyal fans. We deserve better than what we're been getting and I think we would all appreciate if Bioware gave something back to us, back to the people who didn't abandon them.