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TheProtheans

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hukbum wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

unlike heretic hanar you dont actually debate anything just throw random insults, i dont understand why you even post here


I never threw any insults, you only view it as insults because it disagrees with your views.

You have an amazing short term memory ...

Speaking of it, what about the 10 points out numerous points of evidende of whatever?


Couldn't be bothered, I write theories of my own and am currently making a website.
Maybe I will write up an essay as to why IT won't happen and post it here during Christmas.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 04 décembre 2012 - 05:39 .


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TheProtheans wrote...
Even still why would anyone dream about that, it's not very plausible.
And why would Shepard's body be in a different place than the explosion. 

What? If they only dreamed the explosion of course their body wouldn't be near it.

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TheProtheans wrote...

hukbum wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

unlike heretic hanar you dont actually debate anything just throw random insults, i dont understand why you even post here


I never threw any insults, you only view it as insults because it disagrees with your views.

You have an amazing short term memory ...

Speaking of it, what about the 10 points out numerous points of evidende of whatever?


Couldn't be bothered, I write theories of my own and am currently making a website.
Maybe I will write up an essay as to why IT won't happen and post it here during Christmas.

You know this sounds like you have none?

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TheProtheans wrote...

hukbum wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

unlike heretic hanar you dont actually debate anything just throw random insults, i dont understand why you even post here


I never threw any insults, you only view it as insults because it disagrees with your views.

You have an amazing short term memory ...

Speaking of it, what about the 10 points out numerous points of evidende of whatever?


Couldn't be bothered, I write theories of my own and am currently making a website.
Maybe I will write up an essay as to why IT won't happen and post it here during Christmas.


kind of sad.....

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RavenEyry wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...
Even still why would anyone dream about that, it's not very plausible.
And why would Shepard's body be in a different place than the explosion. 

What? If they only dreamed the explosion of course their body wouldn't be near it.


I'm talking about the Mako one.

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TheProtheans wrote...

Eryri wrote...

 Well isn't this interesting. Our friend The Protheans who was so entertaining last night, has also decided to troll the Synthesis thread:

The Protheans said...

Damn that is sad.
I would hate to have been changed into an abomination just because some fool wanted to violate the galaxy without it's consent 
Changing me into having different views and transforming my body into something disgusting.

No, no it can not be forced.
This is essentially a NWO or in this case a NGO and it's not fun.
Your life as you knew it is over, you have no freedom.


At least he/she is being fair and even handed in winding everybody up. While I've no love for synthesis, I wouldn't go into their thread and criticise it just to annoy people. I will never understand why some people get a kick out of being a bit of a jerk on the internet?


I'm not winding anyone up on purpose, if you have a problem it is only because you know I am right and you're wrong and that you're just delusional.
But alas, it seems you people are hell bent on dismissing the truth.

The Protheans out.


Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.

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BatmanTurian wrote...
Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.

At least they have better spelling and grammar than the last one to use the "any argument against me means you're delusional and I'm automatically right" card.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Eryri wrote...

 Well isn't this interesting. Our friend The Protheans who was so entertaining last night, has also decided to troll the Synthesis thread:

The Protheans said...

Damn that is sad.
I would hate to have been changed into an abomination just because some fool wanted to violate the galaxy without it's consent 
Changing me into having different views and transforming my body into something disgusting.

No, no it can not be forced.
This is essentially a NWO or in this case a NGO and it's not fun.
Your life as you knew it is over, you have no freedom.


At least he/she is being fair and even handed in winding everybody up. While I've no love for synthesis, I wouldn't go into their thread and criticise it just to annoy people. I will never understand why some people get a kick out of being a bit of a jerk on the internet?


I'm not winding anyone up on purpose, if you have a problem it is only because you know I am right and you're wrong and that you're just delusional.
But alas, it seems you people are hell bent on dismissing the truth.

The Protheans out.


Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.


I'd prefer if you replied to my reply to your post,
But continue to be ignorant of the truth if you wish.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I have no problem with making fun of the concept of synthesis. I do it all the time, but not on Ieldra2's thread. 

Agreed. It just seems like bullying to go to the synthesis fan thread to bash it when there are plenty of more appropriate places.


I do remember seeing some ITers pestering the Synthesis choosers in the Synthesis thread though. I'm quite sure it wasn't you, but a bunch of other ITers. Can't remember who exactly because I hardly ever visit the Synthesis thread.

Most of us have the good sense to leave them alone (and they as well, for the most part) and we only come in into confrontation with each other in a separate thread were both sides meet to discuss the endings.

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RavenEyry wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...
Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.

At least they have better spelling and grammar than the last one to use the "any argument against me means you're delusional and I'm automatically right" card.


the prothean will post his/her truth at Christmas...when no one will be here to see it :wizard:

Modifié par archangel1996, 04 décembre 2012 - 05:50 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...
Most of us have the good sense to leave them alone (and they as well, for the most part) and we only come in into confrontation with each other in a separate thread were both sides meet to discuss the endings.

Yes, not every ITer pesters positive ending threads the same as not everybody who likes the ending pesters this thread. It's a very small amount actually.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Choose Wisely Episode 3 is up for anyone interested...I would post a link but have not figured out how to from the console :(...

Finally!



EDIT: You can watch previous episodes on Choose Wisely YT channel.



Thanks for this video. After watching it I'm now 100% certain that ME3 is badly written. The video proves how little BioWare cares for their own lore and consistency in their lore. It makes the "Bad Writing Theory" stronger. 

Whoever made this did a good job at showing how little sense a lot of things in ME3 make. You either need a lot of handwaving, jumping through loops and grasping at straws to make sense of it, or you can just simply admit that BioWare doesn't care about consistency in their lore and story.


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"This is a war of attrition. And you're on the wrong side"

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TheProtheans

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archangel1996 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...
Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.

At least they have better spelling and grammar than the last one to use the "any argument against me means you're delusional and I'm automatically right" card.


the prothean will post his/her truth at Christmas...when nobody will be here to see it :wizard:



Why would I post my "truth", I'm not even sure what you mean.
No I will post an essay as to why IT won't happen.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
 At this point you can no longer say that it's an opinion; Mass Effect is an inconsistent mess and that's a FACT.

Just because you say that doesn't make it true because, this may come as a shock, you're not the center of the universe, with the power to divulge what is and isn't fact.


I don't need to be in the center of the universe or the power to divulge what is and isn't a fact. I'm not choosing the facts here. I'm merely not sticking my head in the sand. That's the only difference between you and me. I'm just completely aware at this point of how much of an inconsistent mess Mass Effect has become. It's all thanks to that video from your IT friend. That video shows more inconsistencies that I wasn't even aware of before. At this point we can no longer deny that Mass Effect is an inconsistent mess and that's a fact.

Sorry pall, I wish it didn't have to be that way. I don't choose the facts you know. Don't blame me for the fact that Mass Effect has become an inconsistent mess.

" It's just bad writing."

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TheProtheans wrote...

hukbum wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

unlike heretic hanar you dont actually debate anything just throw random insults, i dont understand why you even post here


I never threw any insults, you only view it as insults because it disagrees with your views.

You have an amazing short term memory ...

Speaking of it, what about the 10 points out numerous points of evidende of whatever?


Couldn't be bothered, I write theories of my own and am currently making a website.
Maybe I will write up an essay as to why IT won't happen and post it here during Christmas.

 who cares?  i'll be out having fun, at the cinema to see the hobbit, having a great time with the family, playing crysis 2 or guild wars 2, sleeping....you know......... enjoy writing that pointless essay wont you?

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dorktainian wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

hukbum wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

unlike heretic hanar you dont actually debate anything just throw random insults, i dont understand why you even post here


I never threw any insults, you only view it as insults because it disagrees with your views.

You have an amazing short term memory ...

Speaking of it, what about the 10 points out numerous points of evidende of whatever?


Couldn't be bothered, I write theories of my own and am currently making a website.
Maybe I will write up an essay as to why IT won't happen and post it here during Christmas.

 who cares?  i'll be out having fun, at the cinema to see the hobbit, having a great time with the family, playing crysis 2 or guild wars 2, sleeping....you know......... enjoy writing that pointless essay wont you?


Well it probably won't take long and my christmas starts in 10 days.

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TheProtheans wrote...

Why would I post my "truth", I'm not even sure what you mean.
No I will post an essay as to why I think IT won't happen.

Fixed that for you.

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TheProtheans wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...
Translation: I'm a troll against everyone, I don't discriminate.

At least they have better spelling and grammar than the last one to use the "any argument against me means you're delusional and I'm automatically right" card.


the prothean will post his/her truth at Christmas...when nobody will be here to see it :wizard:



Why would I post my "truth", I'm not even sure what you mean.
No I will post an essay as to why IT won't happen.



Well, this isn't sad at all then :wizard:

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RavenEyry wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Why would I post my "truth", I'm not even sure what you mean.
No I will post an essay as to why I think IT won't happen.

Fixed that for you.


So you think it will happen despite Bioware stating they won't be adding anything further to the ending.

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Not sure where 'Choose Wisely' is going...

One of their conclusions is that Reapers do not have the kind of control over organics that Leviathans do, but Leviathan explains that the Reapers have perfected the power.

The bit about the QEC was kind of interesting, Demersel is going to have a field day with that.

As for whoever wondered how the AI was going to harvest the Leviathans without the Reapers to begin with: Leviathan explains he used minions for that. Probably the synthetics the organics had created.

My theory is still that the enthralled races built machines to rebel against the Leviathans (because Leviathans can only control organics), and that the AI was built to control synthetics, and then harvested the Leviathans in order to harness their genetic ability to control organics, so the AI could control both.

And I totally support this because it makes perfect sense.

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I envy the awe inspiring superiority of people who get their kicks trying to annoy people on the internet. Shows that they are mature and tuff. I personally am neither enlightened or hardcore enough to pull it off, so I have to settle for living vicariously through the incredibly awesome and super smart adventures of these heroic figures.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

But honestly, the IT doesn't explain the biggest problem I have with the ME3 story:

The whole "the reapers conquer the Citadel and take it to Earth, but forgot to shut down the Mass Relays" problem.

It would make sense to take the Citadel to planet earth to harvest humanity and build a reaper. The Citadel was clearly being used the same way the Collector Base was being used. But why the f*ck are the reapers so F*CKING STUPID that they didn't shut down the Mass Relays after dragging the Citadel to planet Earth? They were smart enough to do that in the previous cycles and it always assured victory for the reapers. Why are they so godforsaken stupid now?


The Protheans sabotaged the Keepers. It's all in the story. Pay attention.

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RavenEyry wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...
Most of us have the good sense to leave them alone (and they as well, for the most part) and we only come in into confrontation with each other in a separate thread were both sides meet to discuss the endings.

Yes, not every ITer pesters positive ending threads the same as not everybody who likes the ending pesters this thread. It's a very small amount actually.


Indeed, we're actually quite good at staying out of other people's business.  Though you'd never know it based on what many of those Literalists say when they're accusing us of being, I don't know, the AntiChrist of something.

Edit: Top.

Modifié par Dwailing, 04 décembre 2012 - 06:04 .


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TheProtheans wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Yep. Cop-out. Just as I predicted. Shepard surviving High EMS Destroy always rips a hole in Literal Theory.

Is it really a cop-out.
It is just something that shouldn't really happen, but it does.

Yes, it is a cop-out because nothing organic or synthetic could survive being at ground zero of that explosion. In fact, I don't think you even thought through your answer at all.


If nothing could survive what actually happened there.
If you think nothing could survive then do you think Shepard dreamt up the whole thing somewhere before actually going down to charge the beam.

If so, why is he hurt in the high destroy ending?


After a blast from Harbi shouldn't you be hurt? Maybe a little?


Perhaps you should tell that to BatmanTurian.

What do I have to do with anything?