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[TJBartlemus]

masster blaster wrote...

I know TJ, but you know me, and any word about if Estebanus got a pm back from Chris yet?

Not yet as far as I know. 

[masster blaster]

Should we ask Gambel about will there be more to the Reapers origions, or the Reapers at all, in the next sp dlc?

[MegumiAzusa]

Home run MF wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No one got any thoughts about that?

MegumiAzusa wrote...

One point is interesting. It's hinted that the methods of indoctrination are evolving. Evolution and comments on the Citadel in ME1 show that humans are unaffected at first and can only do rudimentary and forced tasks.
Ben was in full control of himself up to the point Eva shoots the relic where he goes into a rampage and kills her, but assumes control again afterwards, he even incapacitates Desolas.
In ME1 my example would be how it's commented that new species first don't really mind the Consort but later some feel that they are compelled to work with her.

Adding to that what is presumed what the relics function is: a device to devolve the ones who touch it to be easier controlled, which doesn't fit 100% with the indoctrination methods we know. It seems they have first to analyze specimen to devise a form of indoctrination that targets the species without or with less degradation. From that I would say it's one thing that makes this theory even more valid, as Humans are still quite new for them they maybe didn't devise a perfect way to indoctrinate yet, which could lead to the struggle at the end.

I posted a couple days ago I think there are levels of indoctrination.
In direct proximity of a Reaper your thought processes are slowly changed (Saren pre-implants).
And when you get in direct contact with Reaper tech or let yourself get implanted with it, it let's the Reapers gain control of your body. Like a computer virus.

Edit: a virus that evolves and adapts to the host.

Yes but still not quite what I was trying to say. Indoctrination seems to adapt to a species, not a single individual.

[MegumiAzusa]

masster blaster wrote...

Well the Leviathans are the race that created the Catalyst, but the beings. Of light are something else.

What makes you sure of that the Leviathans are the ones?

[TSA_383]

masster blaster wrote...

Should we ask Gambel about will there be more to the Reapers origions, or the Reapers at all, in the next sp dlc?

Why?
They've already said there will be...

[MegumiAzusa]

TJBartlemus wrote...

I think I figured it out.

No. [/Sten]

[masster blaster]

Right now it's the best thing we have right now, and from what I know about the beings of light they suck ***, for letting this all happen.

[TJBartlemus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I think I figured it out.

No. [/Sten]

 

[masster blaster]

I know TSA, but this is Bioware. They are going to give us little pieces bout the Reapers, so that they won't reveal to much.

Modifié par masster blaster, 06 août 2012 - 05:44 .

[Home run MF]

EpyonX3 wrote...

So, the catalyst says that the Civilization that created him gave the reapers form. What if that include the Catalyst?

Could the beings of light be the creators of the Catalyst, which explains why the Catalyst appears the way he is aside from looking like the child?

Whait a second, aren't the beings of light the Protheans? You know, the Endkindlers...

[plfranke]

Megumi always seems so mean in her posts

[Home run MF]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No one got any thoughts about that?

MegumiAzusa wrote...

One point is interesting. It's hinted that the methods of indoctrination are evolving. Evolution and comments on the Citadel in ME1 show that humans are unaffected at first and can only do rudimentary and forced tasks.
Ben was in full control of himself up to the point Eva shoots the relic where he goes into a rampage and kills her, but assumes control again afterwards, he even incapacitates Desolas.
In ME1 my example would be how it's commented that new species first don't really mind the Consort but later some feel that they are compelled to work with her.

Adding to that what is presumed what the relics function is: a device to devolve the ones who touch it to be easier controlled, which doesn't fit 100% with the indoctrination methods we know. It seems they have first to analyze specimen to devise a form of indoctrination that targets the species without or with less degradation. From that I would say it's one thing that makes this theory even more valid, as Humans are still quite new for them they maybe didn't devise a perfect way to indoctrinate yet, which could lead to the struggle at the end.

I posted a couple days ago I think there are levels of indoctrination.
In direct proximity of a Reaper your thought processes are slowly changed (Saren pre-implants).
And when you get in direct contact with Reaper tech or let yourself get implanted with it, it let's the Reapers gain control of your body. Like a computer virus.

Edit: a virus that evolves and adapts to the host.

Yes but still not quite what I was trying to say. Indoctrination seems to adapt to a species, not a single individual.

Well it's like Javik does, reads Shepard and gains access to that species language and knowledge.

And it's in the leaked script  The Leviathan's created you, didn't they?

[MegumiAzusa]

plfranke wrote...

Megumi always seems so mean in her posts

:/ but I enjoy humans on their knees.

To the post: I just can't see why he compares one with the other thing just because it's more or less blue (much more white in the Guardians case and looks blueish because of the setting) and light.

If any post from me seems mean: it's not meant to be.

[plfranke]

Speaking of posts sounding mean. Where is the hellishfiend? I miss that guy.

[EpyonX3]

Home run MF wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

So, the catalyst says that the Civilization that created him gave the reapers form. What if that include the Catalyst?

Could the beings of light be the creators of the Catalyst, which explains why the Catalyst appears the way he is aside from looking like the child?

Whait a second, aren't the beings of light the Protheans? You know, the Endkindlers...

hmm. haven't considered this. But a Volus that doesn't understand what a VI is?

[TJBartlemus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Megumi always seems so mean in her posts

:/ but I enjoy humans on their knees.

To the post: I just can't see why he compares one with the other thing just because it's more or less blue (much more white in the Guardians case and looks blueish because of the setting) and light.

If any post from me seems mean: it's not meant to be.

I compared the Object Rho to the Catalyst cause these are the only two times we see this type of thing. Object Rho is a known Reaper object. We also know that the Catalyst is the Reaper leader. So the fact that the appearances are similar and there is a connection that they are both Reaper why not? 1+1=2. 

[masster blaster]

Plfranke I miss Hellish, turbo, Earthbor Shepard, otter,uncol joe,cork balance 5050, and the old gang. Not that I don't mind the new gang, but they been with IT since the first IT thread.

[TJBartlemus]

 Here is the thing megumi and I are discussing.

Arrival 

 The Arrival DLC centers around the Arrival of the Reapers at the end of ME2. During the DLC Shepard encounters a Reaper object named Object Rho which signals the upcoming invasion. During the brief encounter Shepard is exposed to it and incapacitated. What caught my interest in this object was the substance that was floating around the inside. On a closer look it appears that there are glowing blue and dark black tendrils floating and swirling inside. This is interesting because as shown in ME3 black tendrils have been associated with the Reapers trying to gain control on the mind. This is to be expected because the device is a Reaper object, so it makes sense. It also strengthens the idea and association of black tendrils = Reapers. On the blue glowing tendrils, the player has also seen before only once…in the ending of ME3 inside the Catalyst. So is this further proving the Catalyst is indeed a Reaper, because there is a connection to the Catalyst to the Object Rho? The Catalyst is also already related to be the supposed “leader of the reapers”. Most however believe that it is really Harbinger posing as the Catalyst. Something that is interesting is that during the battle next to the Object, Harbinger is able to be heard. So there is a connection already with the Object to Harbinger. There is a connection to the Catalyst to the Object. Is it too much to also connect Harbinger – Object Rho – Catalyst??? So if the Catalyst is not what it seems, it could also potentially point in the direction that not everything on the Citadel is what it seems??

[plfranke]

masster blaster wrote...

Plfranke I miss Hellish, turbo, Earthbor Shepard, otter,uncol joe,cork balance 5050, and the old gang. Not that I don't mind the new gang, but they been with IT since the first IT thread.

eh I just miss hellish

[TSA_383]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Megumi always seems so mean in her posts

:/ but I enjoy humans on their knees.

My mind went to a very strange place with that very quickly...

Megumi's not mean to most people. Just does not tolerate some of the airy, speculative bull**** some of us like to come out with 

plfranke wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Plfranke I miss Hellish, turbo, Earthbor Shepard, otter,uncol joe,cork balance 5050, and the old gang. Not that I don't mind the new gang, but they been with IT since the first IT thread.

eh I just miss hellish

 
Anyone know how "choose wisely" is coming along? Feels like ME4 will be out by the time they release it 

Modifié par TSA_383, 06 août 2012 - 05:59 .

[estebanus]

TJBartlemus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I know TJ, but you know me, and any word about if Estebanus got a pm back from Chris yet?

Not yet as far as I know. 

Nope, not yet.

[masster blaster]

Well Plfranke I miss them because the IT thread seems off with out them around.

[Home run MF]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

So, the catalyst says that the Civilization that created him gave the reapers form. What if that include the Catalyst?

Could the beings of light be the creators of the Catalyst, which explains why the Catalyst appears the way he is aside from looking like the child?

Whait a second, aren't the beings of light the Protheans? You know, the Endkindlers...

hmm. haven't considered this. But a Volus that doesn't understand what a VI is?

He was probably wonkers found a Prothean VI with a warning about the Reapers (maybe it lost power like the one on Ilos) and went even more wonkers.

[plfranke]

hahaha tsa glad I'm not the only one

[masster blaster]

Well Estebanus that just means he won't tell us a start answer because it will either comfirm IT or deni IT. XD and Bioware can't have that now won't they.