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[MegumiAzusa]

Eryri wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Shepard can choose not to do Arrival. In that case ME3 changes the codex on that event and tells the player that a different squad did the job.

So in other words: Yes, the events in Arrival are canon, but no, Shepard doing those events isn't always canon , it only is if you chose to play that piece of DLC. If you skip the DLC, the canon changes and tells you that a different squad did that Arrival mission.

No the canon does not change. That's really what "canon" means here - the official core storyline which remains consistent. If your Shepard doesn't do arrival then he/she effectively branches off into a parallel fictional universe, diverging from that canon.

Also from Home Run MF's post on the previous page - http://social.biowar...7/2348#15166925

It's clear from Vega's comic, which is considered part of the canon, that he was assigned to guard Shepard because of the events of Arrival.

If inconsistencies occur your Shep always takes precedence. That is what BioWare said.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

byne wrote...

It makes less since because:

A) Hackett didnt send a team of marines in the first place because he thought it would get Kenson killed. Why he'd do it anyways makes no sense
 If you dont do it, you are locked up for no reason at all in ME3

So the events of Arrival being canon whether Shepard did it or not make much less sense if you didnt actually do Arrival.

A) This is only the case if you download and play Arrival. If you never downloaded Arrival, Hackett never contacted Shepard and just sends a team of marines. If you did download Arrival but didn't play it, Hackett did contact Shepard, but Shepard didn't do it, therefor Hackett was forced to send a team of marines anyway.
Different canons for different playthroughs. There is not 1 single true canon. I thought BioWare made that clear by now.

Not true. If you didn't play Arrival, you're locked up for working with Cerberus. The codex even says so. The leaked script says so too.

Then your Shepard is not canon.

A non canon Shepard does not exist.

Yes they do.

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

A non canon Shepard does not exist.

Shepard who died on the Suicide Mission says hi.

[The Heretic of Time]

Eryri wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Shepard can choose not to do Arrival. In that case ME3 changes the codex on that event and tells the player that a different squad did the job.

So in other words: Yes, the events in Arrival are canon, but no, Shepard doing those events isn't always canon , it only is if you chose to play that piece of DLC. If you skip the DLC, the canon changes and tells you that a different squad did that Arrival mission.

No the canon does not change. That's really what "canon" means here - the official core storyline which remains consistent. If your Shepard doesn't do arrival then he/she effectively branches off into a parallel fictional universe, diverging from that canon.

Ah, so the "canon" version of Mass Effect isn't a fictional univere?! LMAO!  HAHAHAHA! *tears in eyes*

What a bunch of bullcrap. BioWare said, REPEATEDLY, that there is no 1 canon in Mass Effect. Everybodys Shepard is valid and everybodys Shepard is canon. If your Shepard does something that another Shepards doesn't, your canon might be different from the other persons canon, but it's not any more or less valid.

It's clear from Vega's comic, which is considered part of the canon, that he was assigned to guard Shepard because of the events of Arrival. 

Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

[Big_Boss9]

AresKeith wrote...

I think Chris once said that LotSB is canon with or without Shepard, though I could be wrong

On the other hand, Casey Hudson went on record in January and said "We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon.". That said,  I personally consider all DLCs canon.

[Andromidius]

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

A non canon Shepard does not exist.

Shepard who died on the Suicide Mission says hi.

It ends Shepards story, ME3 is Shepards story if she lives. A Shep who dies on the Collector Base is still canon.

[The Heretic of Time]

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

[Andromidius]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I think Chris once said that LotSB is canon with or without Shepard, though I could be wrong

On the other hand, Casey Hudson went on record in January and said "We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon.". That said,  I personally consider all DLCs canon.

The non canon thing is bull, considering they've also stated some things are canon.  Its pandering to the little snowflakes who want to be unique, and yet can't be unique since Shepard is pretty much canonised by the writers already.

[Andromidius]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

Hahahahahahaha.  So you accept that 'Word of God' but not others?

GG.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

A non canon Shepard does not exist.

Shepard who died on the Suicide Mission says hi.

It ends Shepards story, ME3 is Shepards story if she lives. A Shep who dies on the Collector Base is still canon.

No it isn't.

[Big_Boss9]

Andromidius wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I think Chris once said that LotSB is canon with or without Shepard, though I could be wrong

On the other hand, Casey Hudson went on record in January and said "We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon.". That said,  I personally consider all DLCs canon.

The non canon thing is bull, considering they've also stated some things are canon.  Its pandering to the little snowflakes who want to be unique, and yet can't be unique since Shepard is pretty much canonised by the writers already.

I don't necessarily disagree, but those are his words. I do, however, take issue with your blanket statements that anyone other than Shep dying is non-canon. There' s no evidence of that.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 05 décembre 2012 - 01:02 .

[CoolioThane]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

No it isn't.

[The Heretic of Time]

Andromidius wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

Hahahahahahaha.  So you accept that 'Word of God' but not others?

GG.

I accept all Words of God. I never said I didn't.

[Home run MF]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

[The Heretic of Time]

CoolioThane wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

No it isn't.

Word of God said so. So I don't give a crap what you say. You're wrong.

[Andromidius]

CoolioThane wrote...

No it isn't.

You know that Shepard who dies to the first Geth drone on Eden Prime?

That's canon too.  /trollface.

What a stupid debate to be having.  Canon is whatever the writers and developers say it is.  And they say Arrival is canon.  Live with it, haters.

[Andromidius]

Home run MF wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

End of debate.

[The Heretic of Time]

Home run MF wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

Fair enough. In that case the Vega comic is not correct and does not represent the canon for some of my Shepards. The comic is only correct and canon for my main Shepard.

[MegumiAzusa]

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

A non canon Shepard does not exist.

Shepard who died on the Suicide Mission says hi.

It ends Shepards story, ME3 is Shepards story if she lives. A Shep who dies on the Collector Base is still canon.

No it isn't.

Word of BioWare says so.

[Andromidius]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I accept all Words of God. I never said I didn't.

Then you accept IT as well?  GG.  Now behave.

[Gwyphon]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Shepard can choose not to do Arrival. In that case ME3 changes the codex on that event and tells the player that a different squad did the job.

So in other words: Yes, the events in Arrival are canon, but no, Shepard doing those events isn't always canon , it only is if you chose to play that piece of DLC. If you skip the DLC, the canon changes and tells you that a different squad did that Arrival mission.

No the canon does not change. That's really what "canon" means here - the official core storyline which remains consistent. If your Shepard doesn't do arrival then he/she effectively branches off into a parallel fictional universe, diverging from that canon.

Ah, so the "canon" version of Mass Effect isn't a fictional univere?! LMAO!  HAHAHAHA! *tears in eyes*

What a bunch of bullcrap. BioWare said, REPEATEDLY, that there is no 1 canon in Mass Effect. Everybodys Shepard is valid and everybodys Shepard is canon. If your Shepard does something that another Shepards doesn't, your canon might be different from the other persons canon, but it's not any more or less valid.

It's clear from Vega's comic, which is considered part of the canon, that he was assigned to guard Shepard because of the events of Arrival. 

Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

Hanar, learn your sh#t then start talking. Literally first line of the comic: "SOMEWHERE DEEP IN THE HEART OF OMEGA. DAYS AFTER THE ANNIHILATION OF A BATARIAN SYSTEM BY COMMANDER SHEPARD."

[Eryri]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

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so the "canon" version of Mass Effect isn't a fictional univere?! LMAO!  HAHAHAHA! *tears in eyes*

What a bunch of bullcrap...

Now you're just being vulgar and confrontational. If you're not interested in having a civilised discussion then I don't really see the point in continuing this conversation any further. Good night.

[CoolioThane]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

People need to get the notion that their Shepard is special and unique and yet is still canon.

Newsflash: its not.

Newsflash: It is. Word of God said so.

No it isn't.

Word of God said so. So I don't give a crap what you say. You're wrong.

Aww, how sweet. Trying to be all controlling because he's afraid of being controlled.

What's wrong Hanar? Why are you arguing against facts? Is it because your pride might be hurt?

Ha. If your Shepard does not do Arrival, it is not canon.

[byne]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...


Vega's comic does not say WHY Shepard is locked up. So that comic doesn't make playing Arrival the one true canon.

The very first line of the comic is literally "Somewhere deep in the heart of Omega, days after the annihilation of a Batarian system by Commander Shepard."