MegumiAzusa wrote...
SwobyJ wrote...
byne wrote...
Considering both sides produced quotes supporting their positions, I'd call the argument a tie.
Though I did get Hanar to admit that the EC cant disprove IT because it is not canon, which is nice.
I am on top, that makes me correct.
It pretty much is a tie...
To Bioware, anything they make is canon, duh.
But since they make the story presented in very subjective ways depending on the player and what they paid for, there is also no canon.
Different forms really.
Conclusion about Arrival - It 'happened', but they'll allow it not to happen. Story just won't make as much sense for those who chose not to do it though.
Another example is Omega - Omega is gonna be taken back by canon, I'm sure of it. It just makes a lot less sense for it to happen without Shepard, but hey, you're the player, and you have the $$$$ to buy the DLC or not. Bioware isn't gonna automatically invalidate you not buying the DLC, but they're surely going to make the story a bit more confusing if you don't.
Still not doing a DLC is the same, story wise, as not doing a loyalty mission for example. It doesn't matter if it's additional content to the original game or not.
Ehhh... no, I don't think so. Different degrees of DLC, different degrees of mission story importance.
I mean you can avoid recruiting Garrus in ME1 but ME2 all BUT assumes you recruited him. A couple line changes and thats it. So him joining you is Bioware-Dev-Canon (as in how they write MOST of the game, with variations) but not necessarily player canon.
That's why I posted my list a few pages back. Some DLC is absolutely totally optional, like Firewalker and Bring Down the Sky. Some is closer to 'full canon-ish' but not quite, like Kasumi and maybe Omega(?). But some is rather more intigrated into understanding the story (especially if IT is to be correct), like Arrival.
Some DLC is the same as a loyalty mission (or is quite literally one, like Zaeed and Kasumi), but some is less than that (Pinnacle Station), and some is more than that (LOTSB).
I consider 'bridging DLC' to be all but totally canon, but Bioware doesn't want players peeved off so they change a few lines if you don't have it.