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[Rifneno]

umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Here's another question though. If they do reveal IT... what next? The Crucible is a ****ty Deus Ex Machina. Even by Deus Ex Machina standards. Pulling the trigger on the greatest mindscrew in the industry's history and then finishing the story with a turd sandwich would be... So yeah, what next? There's no other path to victory even hinted at thus far.

destroy harbinger, the reaper signal has to have a source and he is probably it

Two problems.  1) You say "Destroy Harbinger" like it's a trivial task.  2) Reaper Signal?  You mean that crazy story starbrat made up to make control seem believable?

[Eryri]

umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Here's another question though. If they do reveal IT... what next? The Crucible is a ****ty Deus Ex Machina. Even by Deus Ex Machina standards. Pulling the trigger on the greatest mindscrew in the industry's history and then finishing the story with a turd sandwich would be... So yeah, what next? There's no other path to victory even hinted at thus far.

destroy harbinger, the reaper signal has to have a source and he is probably it

That's one good option - possibly after some sort of mental battle with an avatar of Harbinger.

Another good one is Raistlin's idea of opening the Citadel relay and storming its counterpart in darkspace. If the "intelligence" is real, it's more likely to be there out of harm's way.

[RavenEyry]

I have no idea the war could be won post IT but I'd still rather have something than the current cliffhanger, although many would disagree. I hope any resolution there is wont involve the crucible as it is because it being a trap makes so much more sense. Though I suppose it could be used in a way the reapers didn't anticipate, turning it against them.

[shadoww6021]

Rifneno wrote...

shadoww6021 wrote...

Restrider wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...
Aww yeah! 

Anyways, for the music to make anyone want to cry, surely it would involve the main characters. Only way this can really happen is with post-ending DLC. Combined with the fact it's got 9 writers and 3 composers working on it...methinks it could be PEDLC, which means IT...probably

If not, meh

I agree that it is probably a DLC with important characters we know for more than just a few minutes, but the end of Overlord combined with the music was also really emotional.

For all we know it could have to choose between non ME3 squad member, and one of them must die. If this is the case, Zaeed is on the top of my list.

One word.  Jacob.

so it will be a hard choice after  all... damn...

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...
One word.  Jacob.

We'd not need heart wrenching music, more a carnival theme.

Modifié par Andromidius, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:03 .

[Restrider]

Rifneno wrote...

Here's another question though. If they do reveal IT... what next? The Crucible is a ****ty Deus Ex Machina. Even by Deus Ex Machina standards. Pulling the trigger on the greatest mindscrew in the industry's history and then finishing the story with a turd sandwich would be... So yeah, what next? There's no other path to victory even hinted at thus far.

There are several possibilities:
The Crucible - how it is depicted and how it is introduced - eerily reminds me of any form of Reaper technology left behind as a trap. As far as I know we agree on that.
So, we can assume that the Crucible is not just a waste of resources, but it will be actively used by the Reapers for some plan they have. I would suggest that the only form to beat the Reapers in a fashio that is not totally contrived is to use the Crucible against the Reapers. That would require some form of modification and first and foremost the information that the Crucible is indeed a trap and what it was designed to do.
The information could be extracted from Harbinger while breaking free from the indoctrination. It wouldn't be something new, since Shepard has had information written into their mind since ME1 (Beacon, Cipher,...). To understand the information, do some Liara mind-meld stuff and have a bunch of egg heads investigate the whole concept of the Crucible with the newly obtained information.
After that, to reconfigure the Crucible we maybe would need technology Cerberus has its hand on. Have a "Retake the Citadel" DLC, claw your way through Reaper forces to the control room, make the changes, severely damage Reapers.
Furthermore I'd like to see more explanation for Cerberus' motives and maybe gives the choice to support TIM in controlling the Reapers. I don't know, that's just what I can imagine. For all we know there could be the dark space station plot.

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
One word.  Jacob.

We'd not need heart wrenching music, more a carnival theme.

Oh God, yes!  Someone do this with a bunch of variations of him dying on the Collector Base!

[Eryri]

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
One word.  Jacob.

We'd not need heart wrenching music, more a carnival theme.

. Beethoven's Ode to Joy?

Modifié par Eryri, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:11 .

[umadcommander]

Rifneno wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Here's another question though. If they do reveal IT... what next? The Crucible is a ****ty Deus Ex Machina. Even by Deus Ex Machina standards. Pulling the trigger on the greatest mindscrew in the industry's history and then finishing the story with a turd sandwich would be... So yeah, what next? There's no other path to victory even hinted at thus far.

destroy harbinger, the reaper signal has to have a source and he is probably it

Two problems.  1) You say "Destroy Harbinger" like it's a trivial task.  2) Reaper Signal?  You mean that crazy story starbrat made up to make control seem believable?

i dont know, but harbinger was the first reaper, made from melted down leviathans who could already indoctrinate (although not as well) could be hes the one keeping the reaper on a leash, what if all the reapers gained back the memory of how they were created

[RavenEyry]

Eryri wrote...

Another good one is Raistlin's idea of opening the Citadel relay and storming its counterpart in darkspace. If the "intelligence" is real, it's more likely to be there out of harm's way.

A good possibility, assuming there is a station (I have this crazy idea that reapers can fling themselves at active relays) and even once taking the station, it would hopefully only contain an advantage, not a different out of the blue reaper off switch.

[Andromidius]

As for post IT, I'd say the Crucible is a no-go as a weapon. I still reckon its a power supply for the Reapers to transport back to Dark Space more effeciently.

But this does mean that we might get a path to go into Dark Space and strike at the Reapers' heart somehow. There might be another Citadel out there (makes sense since Relays connect to each other). This could lead to Suicide Mission 2.0, only this time it really is a suicide mission.

As for methods to win, either we blow up the Reaper's base and strand them in Dark Space for a few thousand years, disrupt their barriers and blow them sky high, or talk them to death. I'm not entire sure.

Or we just lose. That's acceptable as well, so long as we don't get an instant killswitch.

[RavenEyry]

umadcommander wrote...

i dont know, but harbinger was the first reaper, made from melted down leviathans who could already indoctrinate (although not as well) could be hes the one keeping the reaper on a leash, what if all the reapers gained back the memory of how they were created

Who says the reapers are on a leash? (And if you say 'the catalyst' I WILL find a way to slap you across the internet)

I like the memory idea, like how Ten killed the first Cybus Cybermen. Though it still seems like a reaper off switch.

[dorktainian]

RavenEyry wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Another good one is Raistlin's idea of opening the Citadel relay and storming its counterpart in darkspace. If the "intelligence" is real, it's more likely to be there out of harm's way.

A good possibility, assuming there is a station (I have this crazy idea that reapers can fling themselves at active relays) and even once taking the station, it would hopefully only contain an advantage, not a different out of the blue reaper off switch.

yay for team milky way.  

[umadcommander]

RavenEyry wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

i dont know, but harbinger was the first reaper, made from melted down leviathans who could already indoctrinate (although not as well) could be hes the one keeping the reaper on a leash, what if all the reapers gained back the memory of how they were created

Who says the reapers are on a leash? (And if you say 'the catalyst' I WILL find a way to slap you across the internet)

I like the memory idea, like how Ten killed the first Cybus Cybermen. Though it still seems like a reaper off switch.

no not the catalyst:sick:
honsetly i dont know but anything would be better than the choice-o-matic

[paxxton]

Hello! Mass Effect 3 got the GOTY?

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:14 .

[CoolioThane]

Andromidius wrote...

As for post IT, I'd say the Crucible is a no-go as a weapon. I still reckon its a power supply for the Reapers to transport back to Dark Space more effeciently.

But this does mean that we might get a path to go into Dark Space and strike at the Reapers' heart somehow. There might be another Citadel out there (makes sense since Relays connect to each other). This could lead to Suicide Mission 2.0, only this time it really is a suicide mission.

As for methods to win, either we blow up the Reaper's base and strand them in Dark Space for a few thousand years, disrupt their barriers and blow them sky high, or talk them to death. I'm not entire sure.

Or we just lose. That's acceptable as well, so long as we don't get an instant killswitch.

I would climax in my boxers if this were to happen. As long as they did it well, and I know Bioware would.

I'm getting giddy thinking of it

EDIT:

Even if the whole squad dies, we can have emotional scenes involving them all, and an ending with the LI and yourself together whilst you beat the Reapers and reach the end of life.

www.youtube.com/watch

Something similar to that, but not exactly obviously

Modifié par CoolioThane, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:17 .

[Andromidius]

Or, crazy idea here, another Human Reaper is found. Its convinced (or maybe even directly controlled or Shepard uploads into it...bleh...) to fight against Harbinger's Reapers and helps rebalance our odds in a long drawn out bloody war.

Its not the best idea though. But when I first found out about Leviathan I was hoping for a rogue Reaper to switch sides.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Rifneno wrote...

Here's another question though. If they do reveal IT... what next? The Crucible is a ****ty Deus Ex Machina. Even by Deus Ex Machina standards. Pulling the trigger on the greatest mindscrew in the industry's history and then finishing the story with a turd sandwich would be... So yeah, what next? There's no other path to victory even hinted at thus far.

Been thinking about that for months, still not sure where the story could go.

Most plausible I've thought up:
If IT is revealed, it's possible Shepard still has to make it to the Citadel and fire the real Crucible, only the Crucible works in a different manner than we've seen. It might turn the Citadel into a giant mass effect weapon. If the Catalyst is real, and the control point for all Reapers, the Crucible might override the Catalyst programming and make it so Shepard can control their actions, potentially pressing an "off" button. Or it could work like the destroy ending, or similar to it.

I also think the "backfeed" idea is still somewhat valid; Shepard resists the indoctrination, which stuns Harbinger/the Reaper network long enough for the Fleet to do enough damage to push the Reapers into retreat once they recover. Still, the potential for Reaper fleet numbers is staggering, a momentary "backfeed stun" might not be enough to put a dent in their numbers.

[dorktainian]

CoolioThane wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

As for post IT, I'd say the Crucible is a no-go as a weapon. I still reckon its a power supply for the Reapers to transport back to Dark Space more effeciently.

But this does mean that we might get a path to go into Dark Space and strike at the Reapers' heart somehow. There might be another Citadel out there (makes sense since Relays connect to each other). This could lead to Suicide Mission 2.0, only this time it really is a suicide mission.

As for methods to win, either we blow up the Reaper's base and strand them in Dark Space for a few thousand years, disrupt their barriers and blow them sky high, or talk them to death. I'm not entire sure.

Or we just lose. That's acceptable as well, so long as we don't get an instant killswitch.

I would climax in my boxers if this were to happen. As long as they did it well, and I know Bioware would.

I'm getting giddy thinking of it

so the citadel has a twin in dark space?  or maybe even bigger?  A home to powered down reapers?  and we've got to destroy it all?  we may not come back?  this would be awesome.

[Andromidius]

Or another crazy idea - the Citadel gets turned into the Mass Relay its designed to be by docking the Crucible, but its retargetted and sends every Reaper that travels through it into the Galactic Core instead (Omega-4's connecting relay). Or better yet, reprograms every Relay to target that one point.

I imagine hundreds of Reapers arriving at the same place would cause... a mess. Especially when you factor in all those black holes and exploding stars.

Of course, it would mean essentially losing at Earth to convince the Reapers to use it and then travel through it. But no plan is perfect, especially when its fan speculation on the spur of the moment.

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

Hello! Mass Effect 3 got the GOTY?

It's been such a crappy gaming year for me that I'm not surprised that despite it's major flaws, ME3 is still considered the best by many people.

[Andromidius]

dorktainian wrote...
so the citadel has a twin in dark space?  or maybe even bigger?  A home to powered down reapers?  and we've got to destroy it all?  we may not come back?  this would be awesome.

Speculation, but it makes sense seeing how Relays work and all.  Maybe even a Reaper factory of some kind - a safe place for them to transport material back for construction and repair.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Hello! Mass Effect 3 got the GOTY?

It's been such a crappy gaming year for me that I'm not surprised that despite it's major flaws, ME3 is still considered the best by many people.

Despite it's flaws it's still one of the best games I've played in years. I didn't even care about the minor bugs while I was playing it the first time, it was too awesome.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:23 .

[Andromidius]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Hello! Mass Effect 3 got the GOTY?

It's been such a crappy gaming year for me that I'm not surprised that despite it's major flaws, ME3 is still considered the best by many people.

There's some decent competition.  I imagine these were all considered:

Halo 4 (lol)
Dishonored
Diablo 3
Assassin's Creed 3
Darksiders 2

Though out of all those, ME3 is probably the best.  2011 was a superior year for gaming in my opinion.

[CoolioThane]

Scratch that link in my last post, it is not the actual ending:



Such a good film. Saw it with my housemates and their girlfriends few months ago. I cried for 20 minutes after the film whilst they all laughed at me, but y'know...I don't care. It was the perfect ending for me; yes it was horrendously sad, but also so perfectly happy. **** I love this film