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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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CoolioThane

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I hope we'll get a big multiplayer DLC somewhere in the near future. I care about the multiplayer more than I care about the singleplayer of ME3 at this point.


Really? I was really into MP during the summer, but since the new Collector DLC came out I've played one match as I've totally lost interest. 

Could put it down to being back at uni...but I've been playing SP a bit and enjoying it more than I can MP


Well I'm currently in the middle of 2 studies, I have more free time than before and I have plenty of friends who I love to play multiplayer games with. Most of them are (ex-)Mass Effect fans. Renegade players and Cerberus supporters like me.

It's fun to play multiplayer while also being on Skype with my Bloodbrothers, talking about... well, just random game-related stuff. ME3 MP is one of those type of multiplayers that is easy and relaxing to play while chatting on Skype.


Sounds nice...in an evil kind of way (ME3 renegade, Jesus) :P

The only games my friends around here play are sports and Rockstar games...Kind of annoying. I do agree with the relaxing nature of MP.


Though there was nothing relaxing about Blur, Banshee, Punny and I taking on Platinum :lol:

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Just my two cent about reveal:
IT, Puzzle or whatever, I don't care, as long as it is a major kick in the quad for people like this Seival-guy and their therories of atrocity.
That's all I want. I want a game where interpretations like that are just not possible. If BW doesn't do anything about that, it'll be the last game I ever bought from them.

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BioWare underestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.

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hukbum wrote...

Just my two cent about reveal:
IT, Puzzle or whatever, I don't care, as long as it is a major kick in the quad for people like this Seival-guy and their therories of atrocity.

Who is this sevial many have been complaining about lately?

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paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

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hukbum wrote...

Just my two cent about reveal:
IT, Puzzle or whatever, I don't care, as long as it is a major kick in the quad for people like this Seival-guy and their therories of atrocity.
That's all I want. I want a game where interpretations like that are just not possible. If BW doesn't do anything about that, it'll be the last game I ever bought from them.


Seival's latest thread is asking people what kind of harvested they would like to be :sick:

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The Heretic of Time

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paxxton wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

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Again, don't everyone get all exited. Remember when y'all thought EC would be a massive IT reveal?
EDIT::ph34r:Estebanus


Well, it DID give us some nice extra clues and reaffirmed how weird several bits in the ending are.


The EC also fixed a lot of plotholes, or at least it tried to. It also expanded on- and strengthened the literal intepretation of the endings.

The absence of major plotholes doesn't mean it's real. Only appears to be so to some indoctrinated folks.


I'm not talking about the absene of plotholes, I'm talking about FIXING plotholes. That's what the EC did. it fixed a lot of plotholes that were really major from a literal perspective.

To think that BioWare only fixed those plotholes just so they could "indoctrinate" us some more is just plain crazy. :?

It's not crazy. You honestly don't think that those who manipulate people announce their motives by saying "People! We are now going to trick you into obeying us!"


You honestly think BioWare would only fix those plotholes just so they could "manipulate" people? Come on, that is  just crazy. 


"Hey guys, we intentionally made the endings ambiguous because we're planning a big IT plot-twist reveal, so lets work on a DLC that will make the endings less ambiguous, answers a lot of questions and fixes a lot of plotholes, so the endings make more sense from a literal perspective! Yes, that totally makes sense! I'm such a genius!" - Casey Hudson

"But Casey... why would you try to answer questions and fix some plotholes with an Extended Cut ending if the endings are intentionally ambiguous because you want to do a IT plot-reveal?" - Mike Gamble

"SHUT UP MIKE! I'm the boss here! We're obviously doing this to manipulate our audience! We'll be the first video-game company to start a cult! We're genius!" - Casey Hudson

"But that doesn't make any sense Casey. If you plan an IT plot-reveal, then why are we not working on that? Why waste time on an Extended Cut that strengthens the literal interpretation of the endings, answers some questions, fixes plotholes and makes the endings less ambiguous? Why not work on the planned IT plot-reveal right away?" - Mike Gamble

"All in due time Mike... all in due time... It is obvious that my genius master plan is far too complex for you. It's not something you can comprehent." - Casey

"Now you're starting to sound like the reapers..." - Mike

"IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN COMPREHENT!" Now get your ass moving! I want that Extended Cut DLC done ASAP!" - Casey

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 05 décembre 2012 - 03:22 .


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paxxton wrote...

BioWare underestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.

pretty much this.

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RavenEyry wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Just my two cent about reveal:
IT, Puzzle or whatever, I don't care, as long as it is a major kick in the quad for people like this Seival-guy and their therories of atrocity.

Who is this sevial many have been complaining about lately?


The creator of the Control support thread, who's avatar is a synthesized ReaperShep, and is the single most indoctrinated person on the forums. It's so bad it's hilarious.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

Obviously! Everybody but the ITers are just weak-minded idiots, right?

Modifié par estebanus, 05 décembre 2012 - 03:22 .


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umadcommander wrote...
Seival's latest thread is asking people what kind of harvested they would like to be :sick:

What kinds are there to choose from? Husk or goo?

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estebanus

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BleedingUranium wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Just my two cent about reveal:
IT, Puzzle or whatever, I don't care, as long as it is a major kick in the quad for people like this Seival-guy and their therories of atrocity.

Who is this sevial many have been complaining about lately?


The creator of the Control support thread, who's avatar is a synthesized ReaperShep, and is the single most indoctrinated person on the forums. It's so bad it's hilarious.

I suppose you've seen his Normandy support thread?

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paxxton wrote...
BioWare underestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


....harsh.  But somewhat fair.  ME3 was dumbed down somewhat in terms of gameplay (Hacking?  Decryption?  Scanning?  Vehicles?  Planetary Exploration?) in favour of gung-ho combat, but the plot, story and decision making was still pretty high level.

I'd say that the original open ending didn't do them any favours.  Too many people were expecting a clear-cut, defined conclusion to the story.  What they got was an ending which needed them to question what they were told, make their own interpretations and reflect on what they knew about the series.

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

Obviously not. Otherwise, the majority of the fanbase would believe in the IT.

bioware under-estimated how blind most of it's fanbase are when they have indoctrination stuck right in their faces.

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Hanar, they barely changed anything about the actual ending, only the stuff they didn't expect people to be complaining about like how your squadmates got on the Normandy? Did the relays blow up and kill everyone? And, is everyone going to starve to death? The ending itself wasn't truely altered.

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Thought the EC was just to get people off their backs. Worked.

Allowed them to work on the actual reveal...hello 9 writer, 3 composer piece of DLC ;)

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RavenEyry wrote...

umadcommander wrote...
Seival's latest thread is asking people what kind of harvested they would like to be :sick:

What kinds are there to choose from? Husk or goo?


i think the choices are Husk, Scion, pretorian (lol spelling) or become a part of the human reaper

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

Obviously! Everybody but the ITers are just weak-minded idiots, right?


Yeah, they go things like start rumors about Merizan saying synthesis is canon.

Oh no wait, that's you.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Hanar, they barely changed anything about the actual ending, only the stuff they didn't expect people to be complaining about like how your squadmates got on the Normandy? Did the relays blow up and kill everyone? And, is everyone going to starve to death? The ending itself wasn't truely altered.


The ending wasn't altered, no, it was expanded upon. It fixed plotholes, answered questions and most importantly; the EC gave context to the vague and meaningless red, blue and green Skittles (tastes the rainbow) endings. Now we actually get to see what it means to Control the Reapers, or to Destroy the Reapers, or Synthesize the entire galaxy.

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estebanus wrote...

Obviously! Everybody but the ITers are just weak-minded idiots, right?


If you were to believe anyone on this forum, you'd think that every single person around here is: a) a weak-minded idiot; B) wouldn't know good writing if it hit them square in the face; and c) completely unexposed to other games, books, and films.

It's all excruciatingly mind-numbing at times. 

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RavenEyry

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umadcommander wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

umadcommander wrote...
Seival's latest thread is asking people what kind of harvested they would like to be :sick:

What kinds are there to choose from? Husk or goo?


i think the choices are Husk, Scion, pretorian (lol spelling) or become a part of the human reaper

I had a look at the thread. Cannibal's are excluded because Sevial thinks they're ugly. I'm calling troll.

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I can't see why this theory gets so much love, its basically wanting the ending to not be an ending but to be something the worlds most paranoid people would look at and wonder "what are you thinking?"

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dorktainian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

Obviously not. Otherwise, the majority of the fanbase would believe in the IT.

bioware under-estimated how blind most of it's fanbase are when they have indoctrination stuck right in their faces.


So that's why BioWare made an extended cut that explains the endings, fixes plotholes and gave the Skittles taste the rainbow endings context?

If everyone was already indoctrinated, as you claim we are, than why waste time on an EC that supposedly should indoctrinate us even furter as Paxxton claims? How does that make any sense? If you are right (and I highly doubt that you are), than BioWares attempt at indoctrinating their audience already worked succesfully with the original endings. The EC "to indoctrinate the audience even furter" (as Paxxton claims) wouldn't be needed. Instead they could have worked on the IT plot-reveal right away. But they didn't...

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BioWare underoverestimated the intelligence of the collective player and had to release the EC to camouflage their real goals.


I think you meant this Posted Image

Obviously! Everybody but the ITers are just weak-minded idiots, right?


Kind of. Non-ITers generally fall into two camps:

Those who failed to understand the themes and morals of the series, as well as subtleties like symbolism and metaphor. This is not difficult stuff, I have no respect for these people.

Those who don't think Bioware is good enough to create IT, and/or don't think they'll follow through with it. They're wrong, but I can respect their beliefs.

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LordMarrick wrote...

I can't see why this theory gets so much love, its basically wanting the ending to not be an ending but to be something the worlds most paranoid people would look at and wonder "what are you thinking?"

No it isn't. Actually look into it before dismissing it.