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[spotlessvoid]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

Wait.. what? Can you please use quotes when you're replying to me? Because at this moment I have no clue what the hell you're talking about. What is that hum supposed to prove or disprove exactly and what are you exactly replying to?

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

Seems you don't get it. You just don't get it. *sigh* Okay I'll explain it again:


Indoctrination is a cop-out because it's only used to turn unliked characters and antagonists to turn them into reaper pawns. It's a cheap plot-device to give the player a free licence to kill them, or so to speak. Indoctrination isn't used in any interesting, thought-provoking or emotionally-engaging way at all.


You know when indoctrination would be an awesome plot-device? If it was used to turn your Shepards LI against you and forcing you to kill him/her.

Why should indoctrination only be limited to the badguys or unliked characters? Why aren't Shepards crew members, or better yet, his LI turned against him through indoctrination? Because indoctrination is a cop-out, that's why.

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:17 .

[tangythang]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why do people ignore EDI calling the Collectors synthesis in ME2?

Why do people ignore the difference between opt out and the other endings which IT as of now cannot explain?

Refuse? Bill would suggest it's because you've been beaten into inaction/tricked into not using the crucible.

She's specifically talking about the star gazer scene being different, thinking it disproves IT.

The star gazer scene is not part of the narrative, it's a non-canon, fourth wall-breaking message to the player, nothing more. It's different in Refuse because it would be highly suspicious otherwise. And we've always viewed the scene like this, why would EC change that view?

You BELIEVE it to be that. That is not scientific.

you want scientific? wait until I'm allowed to post pictures. It will blow your quad away.

[The Heretic of Time]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

hukbum wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why do people here keep comparing the Synthesis ending with the reapers turning organics into goo? IT'S NOT THE SAME THING!

So what does Shep have to do to make it happen?
Spend some fingernail, or get gooed?

Does it matter? Synthesis still isn't the same thing as reaperfication, which we can clearly see in the Synthesis epilogue.

You can't counter IT with stuff that happens between the beam run and the breath scene.

That goes both ways. You can't use IT to counter what happens in the epilogues, because in the IT the epilogues don't happen. You can't use IT logic on the literal epilogues.

I think I understand you intention, but what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Except it does. Synthesis doesn't happen if the IT is true. Therefor you can't argue what Synthesis is or isn't from an IT perspective, as in your IT reality, Synthesis never happened.

Synthesis can only be argued about from a literal perspective. And from a literal perspective we can clearly see Synthesis is totally not the same as reaperfication.

That... is not true at all.

Now you're just blatantly lying. How the hell can I ever argue againt this kind of arguing? It's not possible. I give up.

[paxxton]

I hear ringing in my ears when playing in Firebase Vancouver. What could it be?

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:07 .

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Otter....yeah. If this thread could just ignore all of them. Megumi's antagonism aside, she at least believes what she says, but the rest? Pure trolls. Best to just not respond but can't seem to get many on board with it.

No. I know what I am saying. And all people who try to say something against it either use "if" and "i believe". Assumptions and believe required is not required for what I am saying because there are usually facts for it.
Like what blows up where on the Citadel, and that the epilog is different only in that specific case regardless of EMS. All you do is say it could be x, while there isn't just anything to back x up but your believe.

[umadcommander]

demersel wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

anyone want to talk about the upcoming DLC? no? nobody?

Let's talk. You're on. 

I think what this game lacks is the attack and combat inside the normandy itself. 

hmmmm fighting on the normandy, break in through the skylight in shepard quarters and fight your way through the decks

[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

demersel wrote...

It amuses me, how people claiming ME3 to be badly written, explain shepard's survival in the breath scene via clinging to ingame lore things such as quantum shilding and such. It only proves that 1- they are not consistent, 2 - they suck at reading.

It amuses me you think Hanar and me are the same people.

Gets pissy about the difference between can't and cannot.
Says "Hanar and me" instead of "Hanar and I."

You can't make up stuff like that.  LOL.

[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Laecraft....that's your opinion. And indoctrination is one of the best parts of Mass Effect, why shouldn't it be used?

(laughs)

Indoctrination one of he best parts of Mass Effect? Ow please. Indoctrination has totally become a cop-out in ME3. It's always used as a weak excuse to turn unliked characters such as Udina into badguys so the Paragon kiddies can metaphorically drop their loads on them.

Indoctrination is absolutely a shallow cop-out that turns characters with potential and interesting motivations into dumb reaper slaves.

Indoctrination would have been awesome if character we love also became indoctrinated villains. Except this doesn't happen. Only characters that were already hated by the Paragon kiddies became indoctrinated. It's totally a cop-out, a horrible horrible cop-out.


If BioWare would add a DLC where your LI becomes indoctrinated and turns against you and then you have to kill/him her, then  we'll talk about how awesome indoctrination is. Until then, indoctrination is and remains a cheap cop-out.

Udina was always a "bad guy". Not an antagonist, but what he did was very in-character, indoctrinated or not.

Indoctrinated turns easily corruptible people into servants of the Reapers by manipulating them. Don't be power hungry.

The rest is hilarious, it's like you've forgotten what thread you're in.

Also, stop saying "Paragon kiddies".

[RavenEyry]

It's amazing how few posts there have been recently when you ignore any pointlessly arguing with Hanar and Megumi.

[demersel]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Otter....yeah. If this thread could just ignore all of them. Megumi's antagonism aside, she at least believes what she says, but the rest? Pure trolls. Best to just not respond but can't seem to get many on board with it.

No. I know what I am saying. And all people who try to say something against it either use "if" and "i believe". Assumptions and believe required is not required for what I am saying because there are usually facts for it.
Like what blows up where on the Citadel, and that the epilog is different only in that specific case regardless of EMS. All you do is say it could be x, while there isn't just anything to back x up but your believe.

Shepard takes a breath in rubble in London in High EMS destroy. Fact. Deal with it. 

[hukbum]

paxxton wrote...

I hear ringing in my ears when playing in Firebase Vancouver. What could it be?

The phone you ingnore while playing Firebase Vancouver?

[hukbum]

RavenEyry wrote...

It's amazing how few posts there have been recently when you ignore any pointlessly arguing with Hanar and Megumi.

Not more than 10 right?

[spotlessvoid]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Otter....yeah. If this thread could just ignore all of them. Megumi's antagonism aside, she at least believes what she says, but the rest? Pure trolls. Best to just not respond but can't seem to get many on board with it.

No. I know what I am saying. And all people who try to say something against it either use "if" and "i believe". Assumptions and believe required is not required for what I am saying because there are usually facts for it.
Like what blows up where on the Citadel, and that the epilog is different only in that specific case regardless of EMS. All you do is say it could be x, while there isn't just anything to back x up but your believe.

Sigh. My point wasn't saying who's right. It was about intent. You believe what you post, regardless if it's right wrong or in between. The other one? Here to provoke and will say anything to do so.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Otter....yeah. If this thread could just ignore all of them. Megumi's antagonism aside, she at least believes what she says, but the rest? Pure trolls. Best to just not respond but can't seem to get many on board with it.

No. I know what I am saying. And all people who try to say something against it either use "if" and "i believe". Assumptions and believe required is not required for what I am saying because there are usually facts for it.
Like what blows up where on the Citadel, and that the epilog is different only in that specific case regardless of EMS. All you do is say it could be x, while there isn't just anything to back x up but your believe.

I fathom your post.

[CoolioThane]

Looking forward to the DLC, reckon it'll be something big and awesome for us!

IT reveal would obviously be the best thing ever, but even if it isn't it will be awesome!

Can everyone just not respond to the trolls in here please.

[MWMike2011]

Yeah, so trying to keep the topic AWAY from arguments that are sure to get this thing shut down quicker...

I'm finding it incredibly hard to do a Renegade runthrough. Like, I don't mind trying not to be a goody-goody...but being pure Renegade just makes my Shepard seem like a dick.

[The Heretic of Time]

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

Wait.. what? Can you please use quotes when you're replying to me? Because at this moment I have no clue what the hell you're talking about. What is that hum supposed to prove or disprove exactly and what are you exactly replying to?

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

Seems you don't get it. You just don't get it. *sigh* Okay I'll explain it again:


Indoctrination is a cop-out because it's only used to turn unliked characters and antagonists to turn them into reaper pawns. It's a cheap plot-device to give the player a free licence to kill them, or so to speak. Indoctrination isn't used in any interesting, thought-provoking or emotionally-engaging way at all.


You know when indoctrination would be an awesome plot-device? If it was used to turn your Shepards LI against you and forcing you to kill him/her.

Why should indoctrination only be limited to the badguys or unliked characters? Why aren't Shepards crew members, or better yet, his LI turned against him through indoctrination? Because indoctrination is a cop-out, that's why.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:13 .

[paxxton]

hukbum wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I hear ringing in my ears when playing in Firebase Vancouver. What could it be?

The phone you ingnore while playing Firebase Vancouver?

Lol. No, seriously, there are ringing sounds that can be heard especially by the hospital.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:13 .

[Rifneno]

CoolioThane wrote...

Looking forward to the DLC, reckon it'll be something big and awesome for us!

IT reveal would obviously be the best thing ever, but even if it isn't it will be awesome!

Can everyone just not respond to the trolls in here please.

Kinda hard to get excited about DLC after Omega.

[masster blaster]

Okay this needs to stop. Really I assumed that everyone would stop bickering against Hanar, and other people that come in here to dis IT. Honest just don't talk to them.

Hanar my I remind you the EC is a dlc, not in the game, so what ever happence in Synthesis is still the same before the EC. Also you do realize that if your going to say " well it was going to be in ME3 disc" no. Just like you said all dlc are iptinal to do for Shepard/ME, as is the EC.

Point being is this. Go start your own thread, and bash at IT all you want. I don't care. Honest why do you come here " for just the luz." Really don't you have a job? Honest I am still in High school, and I have things to do for my education.

Oh and I mean it creat your own thread about " Why IT suck" See how long it can last, or if they don't shut it down, well it's fine by me.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

demersel wrote...

It amuses me, how people claiming ME3 to be badly written, explain shepard's survival in the breath scene via clinging to ingame lore things such as quantum shilding and such. It only proves that 1- they are not consistent, 2 - they suck at reading.

It amuses me you think Hanar and me are the same people.

Gets pissy about the difference between can't and cannot.
Says "Hanar and me" instead of "Hanar and I."

You can't make up stuff like that. LOL.

I'm not natively speaking English, I still expect people who are to know simple things like that. If not I am not sure what is more tragic, someone who doesn't natively speak a language and makes an error, or someone who natively speaks English and doesn't know some of the more basic rules.

[demersel]

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

[MegumiAzusa]

demersel wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Otter....yeah. If this thread could just ignore all of them. Megumi's antagonism aside, she at least believes what she says, but the rest? Pure trolls. Best to just not respond but can't seem to get many on board with it.

No. I know what I am saying. And all people who try to say something against it either use "if" and "i believe". Assumptions and believe required is not required for what I am saying because there are usually facts for it.
Like what blows up where on the Citadel, and that the epilog is different only in that specific case regardless of EMS. All you do is say it could be x, while there isn't just anything to back x up but your believe.

Shepard takes a breath in rubble in London in High EMS destroy. Fact. Deal with it.

Not a fact but a believe. Deal with it.

[paxxton]

CoolioThane wrote...

Looking forward to the DLC, reckon it'll be something big and awesome for us!

IT reveal would obviously be the best thing ever, but even if it isn't it will be awesome!

Can everyone just not respond to the trolls in here please.

I consider you believe that what you think might turn out to be true.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .