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[RavenEyry]

MWMike2011 wrote...

Yeah, so trying to keep the topic AWAY from arguments that are sure to get this thing shut down quicker...

I'm finding it incredibly hard to do a Renegade runthrough. Like, I don't mind trying not to be a goody-goody...but being pure Renegade just makes my Shepard seem like a dick.

Same. I take some renegade interrupts and occasionally play a hardass, but I can't go down the complete dick route. In any game for that matter. I get sad whenever I lose a soldier in Mount and Blade.

[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Seems you don't get it. You just don't get it. *sigh* Okay I'll explain it again:


Indoctrination is a cop-out because it's only used to turn unliked characters and antagonists to turn them into reaper pawns. It's a cheap plot-device to give the player a free licence to kill them, or so to speak. Indoctrination isn't used in any interesting, thought-provoking or emotionally-engaging way at all.


You know when indoctrination would be an awesome plot-device? If it was used to turn your Shepards LI against you and forcing you to kill him/her.

Why should indoctrination only be limited to the badguys or unliked characters? Why aren't Shepards crew members, or better yet, his LI turned against him through indoctrination? Because indoctrination is a cop-out, that's why.

Indoctrinated corrupts the corruptible. Besides, we kill plenty of people that aren't indoctrinated. Indoctrination not being used exactly how you want it to doesn't make it a cop-out.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Yeah, so trying to keep the topic AWAY from arguments that are sure to get this thing shut down quicker...

I'm finding it incredibly hard to do a Renegade runthrough. Like, I don't mind trying not to be a goody-goody...but being pure Renegade just makes my Shepard seem like a dick.

Same. I take some renegade interrupts and occasionally play a hardass, but I can't go down the complete dick route. In any game for that matter. I get sad whenever I lose a soldier in Mount and Blade.

I know, right?  I've spent a few hundred hours in Skyrim and still haven't done like half the quests because the game is so full of pure evil.

[CoolioThane]

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

[paxxton]

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Dark Space.

[BleedingUranium]

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Spectres! Four Salarians, an Asari, and a FemTurian. That'd give us six of each council race.

[Rifneno]

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

Did that stop them from adding volus and guns that spit shell casings?

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...

I know, right?  I've spent a few hundred hours in Skyrim and still haven't done like half the quests because the game is so full of pure evil.

Never done thieves or brotherhood myself. Never supported stormcloaks either.

[spotlessvoid]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

Wait.. what? Can you please use quotes when you're replying to me? Because at this moment I have no clue what the hell you're talking about. What is that hum supposed to prove or disprove exactly and what are you exactly replying to?

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

Seems you don't get it. You just don't get it. *sigh* Okay I'll explain it again:


Indoctrination is a cop-out because it's only used to turn unliked characters and antagonists to turn them into reaper pawns. It's a cheap plot-device to give the player a free licence to kill them, or so to speak. Indoctrination isn't used in any interesting, thought-provoking or emotionally-engaging way at all.


You know when indoctrination would be an awesome plot-device? If it was used to turn your Shepards LI against you and forcing you to kill him/her.

Why should indoctrination only be limited to the badguys or unliked characters? Why aren't Shepards crew members, or better yet, his LI turned against him through indoctrination? Because indoctrination is a cop-out, that's why.

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

[The Heretic of Time]

Dark Brotherhood for the win. HAIL SITHIS!

Renegade Shepard for the win too. Too bad Cerberus became cartoon villains in ME3. It would have been great if Cerberus would be an alternative path in ME3 for Renegade Shepards like mine. Similar as The Witcher 2 having the Scoia'tael as an alternative path to the Blue Stripes path.

[paxxton]

And Omega MP levels and Citadel shopping area from during the coup.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:19 .

[CoolioThane]

Rifneno wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

Did that stop them from adding volus and guns that spit shell casings?

Yeah, but Volus are plentiful in the Galaxy and Protheans ain't - it would lessen the whole "JAvik is the last one" thing

[Restrider]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the area Shepard is in is protected, why is it reduced to rubble?

There can still be enough force which with the right angles does not crush Shep.

You cannot know...

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...
Did that stop them from adding volus and guns that spit shell casings?

Whaaaaaaa! Right, that's it, I'm taking Hanar's side. Bad writing it is!

[BleedingUranium]

RavenEyry wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Yeah, so trying to keep the topic AWAY from arguments that are sure to get this thing shut down quicker...

I'm finding it incredibly hard to do a Renegade runthrough. Like, I don't mind trying not to be a goody-goody...but being pure Renegade just makes my Shepard seem like a dick.

Same. I take some renegade interrupts and occasionally play a hardass, but I can't go down the complete dick route. In any game for that matter. I get sad whenever I lose a soldier in Mount and Blade.

I always reload the last checkpoint if I lose a Marine in Halo

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

We are still missing a Sentinel and Vanguard...

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[demersel]

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

I reckon, if they added volus - hanar and elcore are next on the line. 

[tangythang]

demersel wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

anyone want to talk about the upcoming DLC? no? nobody?

Let's talk. You're on. 

I think what this game lacks is the attack and combat inside the normandy itself. 

I want to add, I think what this game forgot to add is story of betrayal.
and I speculate there's traitor inside the normandy.

@ umadcommander
you'll get combat inside the normandy right?



the speculayshun:
I suspect EDI, Traynor, and Cortez if there ever was one.

- EDI or Traynor (comm specialist) is a suspect for feeding TIM intel all the time. TIM  know Shepard will be on Thessia even before he arrive, he told kaileng "go to thessia, shepard will be there". The weird thing was that when liara asked him "how do you find this place", he said "the archive (ilos? but only saren was there)".
At that time Udina was already dead, the mission was acquired inside his office though.

- How convenient it was for Traynor to suddenly comes up with cerberus base, come on. Can anybody do the same to shadowbroker base?

- I saw EDI's smile when consoling LI of Shepard's death highly suspect. And she's the only character that no matter what you do, you will like. Even as far as being emphasized by other crew and shepard him/herself.

- As for cortez, there could be a reaper artifact that he smuggle inside the shuttle bay, he set a shop there afterall.
Vega heard the hum.

[The Heretic of Time]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

Wait.. what? Can you please use quotes when you're replying to me? Because at this moment I have no clue what the hell you're talking about. What is that hum supposed to prove or disprove exactly and what are you exactly replying to?

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

Seems you don't get it. You just don't get it. *sigh* Okay I'll explain it again:


Indoctrination is a cop-out because it's only used to turn unliked characters and antagonists to turn them into reaper pawns. It's a cheap plot-device to give the player a free licence to kill them, or so to speak. Indoctrination isn't used in any interesting, thought-provoking or emotionally-engaging way at all.


You know when indoctrination would be an awesome plot-device? If it was used to turn your Shepards LI against you and forcing you to kill him/her.

Why should indoctrination only be limited to the badguys or unliked characters? Why aren't Shepards crew members, or better yet, his LI turned against him through indoctrination? Because indoctrination is a cop-out, that's why.

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar.

And there are plenty of ways Udina could have been exposed. And Shepard is the only member of the Normandy guaranteed to have been repeatedly exposed to Reaper tech. For that matter, the rest of the crew didn't know about his indoctrination dreams, why would he know if they are starting to crack?

You just don't get it do you? You seriously don't get it.


And why are you copy-pasting the same nonsense? I already read what you said the first time you said it.

And again, what the HELL are you trying to say with this random babbling?: 

There's a hum in the shuttle bay that seems to say otherwise Hanar. 

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I know, right?  I've spent a few hundred hours in Skyrim and still haven't done like half the quests because the game is so full of pure evil.

Never done thieves or brotherhood myself. Never supported stormcloaks either.

Ditto.  Thieves guild was at least neutral in Morrowind and Oblivion.  In Skyrim they're complete bastards.  I want to go all Vlad the Impaler on Maven Black-Briar.  I can't believe a character like that is plot armored in a TES game.  I've tried doing a run or two supporting Stormcloaks, but I just couldn't go through with it.  I'd get to Ulfric and I'd just stare at the joining option and eventually go, "Nope, can't do it.  Gonna have to cut him open instead."  Shame that more Thalmor can't get that treatment too.

[Fiery Phoenix]

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Retaliation may have been the final MP DLC, which I hope is the case. They've already put more support into MP than is needed, IMO. Probably best to shift the focus to SP right now.

[MegumiAzusa]

Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the area Shepard is in is protected, why is it reduced to rubble?

There can still be enough force which with the right angles does not crush Shep.

You cannot know...

Yes, I cannot. That is why I say IT before the EC is completely plausible but after the EC it is not.

[BleedingUranium]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Dark Brotherhood for the win. HAIL SITHIS!

Renegade Shepard for the win too. Too bad Cerberus became cartoon villains in ME3. It would have been great if Cerberus would be an alternative path in ME3 for Renegade Shepards like mine. Similar as The Witcher 2 having the Scoia'tael as an alternative path to the Blue Stripes path.

Cerberus was always evil. If you didn't see that in ME2 then you bought their propaganda. No wonder you don't get the themes.

[RavenEyry]

tangythang wrote...

the speculayshun:
I suspect EDI, Traynor, and Cortez if there ever was one.

James is my prime suspect. He comes out of nowhere, hears hums and does a few odd things.

[paxxton]

I really want that shopping area where you chase Kai Leng on the Ctadel as a giant MP map!

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:24 .

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

demersel wrote...

While we are at it, what do you guys thing they will include in the next MP DLC? It seems that they have already done everything and more than what was initially leaked, but thera still lots of time ahead for MP support via DLC.

Reckon they might put Protheans in? I don't think thy could find a way

Did that stop them from adding volus and guns that spit shell casings?

The guns that spit "shell casings" are actually spitting spent heat sinks (If I remember the lore).  And the Volus aren't THAT ridiculous.  I mean, they're just as vulnerable as you'd expect a Volus to be, and they ARE wearing custom battle suits.  Also, remember that dreadnought they have?  The Kwunu (I believe that's what it's called)?  That thing is a BEAST.  It seems the Volus are more capable militarily than we thought at first.