BansheeOwnage wrote...
How the hell would that go down?paxxton wrote...
The Reaper attack on the Citadel. Or rather a mission to try and take it back. A failed mission, of course.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
dorktainian wrote...
dear god. indoctrination may appear to be irrelevant, but thats it's trick. to change someones opinnions and therefore their minset. from the outside they appear normal. the perfect weapon. completely untracable until it's too late.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
it seems that after so many posts you still don't get it.
Honestly, how many times do I have to repeat myself? INDOCTRINATION IS A COP-OUT! It's not awesome. It's not the best part of ME3. It could have been, but it isn't. It's used as a incredibly weak plot-device to turn morally ambiguous and partly-evil characters to fully-evil, giving Shepard a free licence to kill.
Have you never noticed that ONLY characters that the majority of the fanbase didn't like or expected to be evil are indoctrinated in ME3? How is that not a cop-out?
Also, whenever there is conflict in ME3, it always burns down to "lol he's indoctrinated". How is that not incredibly lazy, shallow and predictiable writing? Is BioWare to stupid to come up with actual motives for their characters, are their just too lazy to come up with actual motives for their characters or do they truly this this "lol indoctrinated" cop-out is good writing?
And why is it that we never ever see one of the goodguys becoming indoctrinated? Are goodguys magically shielded against indoctrination or something?
Indoctrination could have been awesome. it would have been awesome if our LI turned out to be indoctrinated, forcing our Shepard to kill his own LI in order to save his crew and the galaxy. THAT would truly show us how powerful and dangerous indoctrination is. But no, that never happens. Instead indoctrination is only used as a weak, cheap and shallow cop-out to turn the morally ambiguous characters or factions into reaper pawns so we have a reason to kill them off. It's f*cking lame, but you just don't wanna see that. You just don't want to see it.
and it would be completely redundant to the storyline. why would you try to take back the citadel against reaper forces? that would just kill off this game forever.BansheeOwnage wrote...
How the hell would that go down?paxxton wrote...
The Reaper attack on the Citadel. Or rather a mission to try and take it back. A failed mission, of course.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
Maybe before the fleets arrive Shepard is sent to plant a hacking device and is struck in the head with a Reaper EM gun.BansheeOwnage wrote...
How the hell would that go down?paxxton wrote...
The Reaper attack on the Citadel. Or rather a mission to try and take it back. A failed mission, of course.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
no offense but you should be with the other trolls at the cinema in the hobbit.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
dear god. indoctrination may appear to be irrelevant, but thats it's trick. to change someones opinnions and therefore their minset. from the outside they appear normal. the perfect weapon. completely untracable until it's too late.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
it seems that after so many posts you still don't get it.
Honestly, how many times do I have to repeat myself? INDOCTRINATION IS A COP-OUT! It's not awesome. It's not the best part of ME3. It could have been, but it isn't. It's used as a incredibly weak plot-device to turn morally ambiguous and partly-evil characters to fully-evil, giving Shepard a free licence to kill.
Have you never noticed that ONLY characters that the majority of the fanbase didn't like or expected to be evil are indoctrinated in ME3? How is that not a cop-out?
Also, whenever there is conflict in ME3, it always burns down to "lol he's indoctrinated". How is that not incredibly lazy, shallow and predictiable writing? Is BioWare to stupid to come up with actual motives for their characters, are their just too lazy to come up with actual motives for their characters or do they truly this this "lol indoctrinated" cop-out is good writing?
And why is it that we never ever see one of the goodguys becoming indoctrinated? Are goodguys magically shielded against indoctrination or something?
Indoctrination could have been awesome. it would have been awesome if our LI turned out to be indoctrinated, forcing our Shepard to kill his own LI in order to save his crew and the galaxy. THAT would truly show us how powerful and dangerous indoctrination is. But no, that never happens. Instead indoctrination is only used as a weak, cheap and shallow cop-out to turn the morally ambiguous characters or factions into reaper pawns so we have a reason to kill them off. It's f*cking lame, but you just don't wanna see that. You just don't want to see it.
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Alright, I will provide evidence for my position. Watch this video at around 16:00.
We don't know what YMIR mech heatsinks look like. We do know what the heatsink for the typhoon looks like. We know its size, and you could make maybe 10 of those shell casings from a heatsink. Not 100+. Things don't get 10 times bigger than you chop them up. Did I mention they look exactly like goddamn shell casings?
Did you look at the YMIR mech when it was firing? Seriously, did you frakking look at it? Its gun was spitting out heat sinks at a ridiculous rate.
I just went through the groundside pack in ME3Explorer. File: SFXWeapon_AssaultRifle_LMG_GUN02.pcc Mesh name: casing. They're shell casings. Deal.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah, I'd imagine that's what the Typhoon does. Maybe that's why it's so heavy? It must have a minifabricator in it. The rate at which it produces them is a bit unbelievable, but I don't care.BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Alright, I will provide evidence for my position. Watch this video at around 16:00.
We don't know what YMIR mech heatsinks look like. We do know what the heatsink for the typhoon looks like. We know its size, and you could make maybe 10 of those shell casings from a heatsink. Not 100+. Things don't get 10 times bigger than you chop them up. Did I mention they look exactly like goddamn shell casings?
The Falcon ejects "shell casings" too. Read what it says.
BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Alright, I will provide evidence for my position. Watch this video at around 16:00.
We don't know what YMIR mech heatsinks look like. We do know what the heatsink for the typhoon looks like. We know its size, and you could make maybe 10 of those shell casings from a heatsink. Not 100+. Things don't get 10 times bigger than you chop them up. Did I mention they look exactly like goddamn shell casings?
Did you look at the YMIR mech when it was firing? Seriously, did you frakking look at it? Its gun was spitting out heat sinks at a ridiculous rate.
I just went through the groundside pack in ME3Explorer. File: SFXWeapon_AssaultRifle_LMG_GUN02.pcc Mesh name: casing. They're shell casings. Deal.
Right, they look like casings on purpose, to look cool, but they also have a canon explaination. You know the files are just shorthand anyway.
You solved the mystery! They have all the writers there to make sure your squadmates talk about them during combat! And awesome, tear-inducing music plays while you use them!spotlessvoid wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
ME2 weapons pack
Rifneno wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yeah, I'd imagine that's what the Typhoon does. Maybe that's why it's so heavy? It must have a minifabricator in it. The rate at which it produces them is a bit unbelievable, but I don't care.BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Alright, I will provide evidence for my position. Watch this video at around 16:00.
We don't know what YMIR mech heatsinks look like. We do know what the heatsink for the typhoon looks like. We know its size, and you could make maybe 10 of those shell casings from a heatsink. Not 100+. Things don't get 10 times bigger than you chop them up. Did I mention they look exactly like goddamn shell casings?
The Falcon ejects "shell casings" too. Read what it says.
The falcon doesn't fire bullets, it fires miniature grenades. It has to fabricate them. The typhoon does not have to fabricate bullets because a far better method for standard firearms is available.
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Dark Brotherhood for the win. HAIL SITHIS!
Renegade Shepard for the win too. Too bad Cerberus became cartoon villains in ME3. It would have been great if Cerberus would be an alternative path in ME3 for Renegade Shepards like mine. Similar as The Witcher 2 having the Scoia'tael as an alternative path to the Blue Stripes path.
Cerberus was always evil. If you didn't see that in ME2 then you bought their propaganda. No wonder you don't get the themes.
It's because of naive and ignorant people like you who see the world black-and-white with no shades of grey that BioWare turned Cerberus into Saturday-morning cartoon villains and actually get away with that crap too. Seriously, I can't f*cking believe it. I sometimes really wonder what the average age and average IQ of the average Mass Effect player is.
They didn't get turned into anything, it's always been the same Cerberus. I don't view the world in black and white, but sometimes things just are black. Is Cerberus grey? Sure they are, as long as you're comparing them to the Reapers
Besides, Cerberus is indoctrinated, which basically means you're just fighting Reapers. Actually, you don't fight anyone who isn't indoctrinated in ME3. Cerberus? Yep. Heretic Geth? Yep. Reaper forces? Obviously. You don't fight Cerberus too much, as you're really just fighting the Reapers anyway.
You just proved my point. Thank you.
Your point? You admit that you fight nothing but indoctrination throughout ME3, but it's not possible that you're personally fighting it at the end? That's something called "theme".
it seems that after so many posts you still don't get it.
Honestly, how many times do I have to repeat myself? INDOCTRINATION IS A COP-OUT! It's not awesome. It's not the best part of ME3. It could have been, but it isn't. It's used as a incredibly weak plot-device to turn morally ambiguous and partly-evil characters to fully-evil, giving Shepard a free licence to kill.
Have you never noticed that ONLY characters that the majority of the fanbase didn't like or expected to be evil are indoctrinated in ME3? How is that not a cop-out?
Also, whenever there is conflict in ME3, it always burns down to "lol he's indoctrinated". How is that not incredibly lazy, shallow and predictiable writing? Is BioWare to stupid to come up with actual motives for their characters, are their just too lazy to come up with actual motives for their characters or do they truly this this "lol indoctrinated" cop-out is good writing?
And why is it that we never ever see one of the goodguys becoming indoctrinated? Are goodguys magically shielded against indoctrination or something?
Indoctrination could have been awesome. it would have been awesome if our LI turned out to be indoctrinated, forcing our Shepard to kill his own LI in order to save his crew and the galaxy. THAT would truly show us how powerful and dangerous indoctrination is. But no, that never happens. Instead indoctrination is only used as a weak, cheap and shallow cop-out to turn the morally ambiguous characters or factions into reaper pawns so we have a reason to kill them off. It's f*cking lame, but you just don't wanna see that. You just don't want to see it.
Hey man, I admitted it was producing them too fast to make sense.Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
dorktainian wrote...
no offense but you should be with the other trolls at the cinema in the hobbit.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
dear god. indoctrination may appear to be irrelevant, but thats it's trick. to change someones opinnions and therefore their minset. from the outside they appear normal. the perfect weapon. completely untracable until it's too late.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
it seems that after so many posts you still don't get it.
Honestly, how many times do I have to repeat myself? INDOCTRINATION IS A COP-OUT! It's not awesome. It's not the best part of ME3. It could have been, but it isn't. It's used as a incredibly weak plot-device to turn morally ambiguous and partly-evil characters to fully-evil, giving Shepard a free licence to kill.
Have you never noticed that ONLY characters that the majority of the fanbase didn't like or expected to be evil are indoctrinated in ME3? How is that not a cop-out?
Also, whenever there is conflict in ME3, it always burns down to "lol he's indoctrinated". How is that not incredibly lazy, shallow and predictiable writing? Is BioWare to stupid to come up with actual motives for their characters, are their just too lazy to come up with actual motives for their characters or do they truly this this "lol indoctrinated" cop-out is good writing?
And why is it that we never ever see one of the goodguys becoming indoctrinated? Are goodguys magically shielded against indoctrination or something?
Indoctrination could have been awesome. it would have been awesome if our LI turned out to be indoctrinated, forcing our Shepard to kill his own LI in order to save his crew and the galaxy. THAT would truly show us how powerful and dangerous indoctrination is. But no, that never happens. Instead indoctrination is only used as a weak, cheap and shallow cop-out to turn the morally ambiguous characters or factions into reaper pawns so we have a reason to kill them off. It's f*cking lame, but you just don't wanna see that. You just don't want to see it.
BansheeOwnage wrote...
You solved the mystery! They have all the writers there to make sure your squadmates talk about them during combat! And awesome, tear-inducing music plays while you use them!spotlessvoid wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
ME2 weapons pack
BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
You're the one hellbent on proving something doesn't make sense.
BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
You're the one hellbent on proving something doesn't make sense.
You fail to realize that you lack a point. You saying you opinion; you think indoctrination is lame. That's great. I won't stop you, but it's not an argument at all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Possibly and expansion of priority: Earth, showing your war assets more in action, restructuring the London battlefield (as the one we have now generally isn't well-liked), and maybe even a more heavily expanded ending (possibly letting you win in refuse), where in destroy you can for example reunite with your LI.BansheeOwnage wrote...
Team!CoolioThane wrote...
I bet the big DLC is IT reveal
Serious question for all: If it's not a post end DLC, what could it be?
BansheeOwnage wrote...
You fail to realize that you lack a point. You saying you opinion; you think indoctrination is lame. That's great. I won't stop you, but it's not an argument at all.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
See you all later.
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They look the same as when Zaeed ejected his onto Vido to me.Rifneno wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
You're the one hellbent on proving something doesn't make sense.
I have proven it. You're the ones desperately clinging to this bull**** excuse that BW never endorsed, let alone gave themselves. And even when confronted with the fact that they look exactly like shell casings and nothing like heatsink chips, and are even CALLED casings, you still cling to this delusion. This conversation has done more to make me doubt IT than anything people like Hanar have ever said.
Rifneno wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
JFC. The literalists are right about you people and denial.
You're the one hellbent on proving something doesn't make sense.
I have proven it. You're the ones desperately clinging to this bull**** excuse that BW never endorsed, let alone gave themselves. And even when confronted with the fact that they look exactly like shell casings and nothing like heatsink chips, and are even CALLED casings, you still cling to this delusion. This conversation has done more to make me doubt IT than anything people like Hanar have ever said.
Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
no offense but you should be with the other trolls at the cinema in the hobbit.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
dorktainian wrote...
dear god. indoctrination may appear to be irrelevant, but thats it's trick. to change someones opinnions and therefore their minset. from the outside they appear normal. the perfect weapon. completely untracable until it's too late.Heretic_Hanar wrote...
it seems that after so many posts you still don't get it.
Honestly, how many times do I have to repeat myself? INDOCTRINATION IS A COP-OUT! It's not awesome. It's not the best part of ME3. It could have been, but it isn't. It's used as a incredibly weak plot-device to turn morally ambiguous and partly-evil characters to fully-evil, giving Shepard a free licence to kill.
Have you never noticed that ONLY characters that the majority of the fanbase didn't like or expected to be evil are indoctrinated in ME3? How is that not a cop-out?
Also, whenever there is conflict in ME3, it always burns down to "lol he's indoctrinated". How is that not incredibly lazy, shallow and predictiable writing? Is BioWare to stupid to come up with actual motives for their characters, are their just too lazy to come up with actual motives for their characters or do they truly this this "lol indoctrinated" cop-out is good writing?
And why is it that we never ever see one of the goodguys becoming indoctrinated? Are goodguys magically shielded against indoctrination or something?
Indoctrination could have been awesome. it would have been awesome if our LI turned out to be indoctrinated, forcing our Shepard to kill his own LI in order to save his crew and the galaxy. THAT would truly show us how powerful and dangerous indoctrination is. But no, that never happens. Instead indoctrination is only used as a weak, cheap and shallow cop-out to turn the morally ambiguous characters or factions into reaper pawns so we have a reason to kill them off. It's f*cking lame, but you just don't wanna see that. You just don't want to see it.
Ah, so when something goes way over your head and you have nothing left to say, you'll just go back to "OMG TROLL" accusations. How incredibly predictable....
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