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[Sharkey1337]

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

He would also know about the boy Shepard saw die, so...

[byne]

Dwailing wrote...

hukbum wrote...

@demersel: Even if he's honest, just ignore him. I've had enough of this stuff the last 100 pages.

Besides, I was here yesterday when he was posting.  I'm fairly certain he's a troll.  When Byne gets frustrated with someone, you know it's bad.

Edit: You were frusterated, weren't you Byne?

A little bit, yes.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

magnetite wrote...

This may be a bit of a leap. The following texture is called "Dreamlight_tile":



When I bring up Texmod and cycle through the textures I was shocked to find out which thing in the game uses this:

This is once again one of those hard irrefutable evidence for IT.

Man...this is too easy...reminds me of the (fake) gamefiles pic of the kid being titled as "Harbinger"....there's gotta be an alternative explaination.

Though, I don't currently see where else this texture comes up...especially in the dreams. The only other place that comes into mind would be TIM's hologram on Thessia.

[Restrider]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

He would also know about the boy Shepard saw die, so...

Not really...? Or did I misunderstand this?

[lex0r11]

You rang?

[demersel]

MaximizedAction wrote...
Though, I don't currently see where else this texture comes up...especially in the dreams. The only other place that comes into mind would be TIM's hologram on Thessia.

It is a different texture there. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Restrider wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

He would also know about the boy Shepard saw die, so...

Not really...? Or did I misunderstand this?

Shepard talks about seeing the boy die on Earth to Garrus, and Glyph listens to everything on the Normandy.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

magnetite wrote...

This may be a bit of a leap. The following texture is called "Dreamlight_tile":



When I bring up Texmod and cycle through the textures I was shocked to find out which thing in the game uses this:

This is once again one of those hard irrefutable evidence for IT.

Man...this is too easy...reminds me of the (fake) gamefiles pic of the kid being titled as "Harbinger"....there's gotta be an alternative explaination.

Though, I don't currently see where else this texture comes up...especially in the dreams. The only other place that comes into mind would be TIM's hologram on Thessia.

But I think it's real. This texture in contained in the package for the Guardian.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:19 .

[spotlessvoid]

My biggest problem with glyph being the intelligence is if it wasn't for Liara he'd probably have been tossed out an airlock. Maybe that says something about Liara, but being ultra annoying isn't the best way to ensure close proximity with your target. Id be pretty irked if such a doofus "character" gets revealed as the Reaper Overlord

[demersel]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

It isn't new. It is a very old one. 

Here's my original topic about it. 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11342724

Modifié par demersel, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:21 .

[Eryri]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Restrider wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Ha, I really like this new theory on Glyph being a Reaper tool. Not only is it an entertaining twist, but it's actually reasonable in explaining a lot of things, such as the finding of the Crucible (a true Reaper creation), to Cerberus being well informed (Reapers need to update their thralls), to how the Reapers learn so much about each new cycle (existence of Shadow Broker being that source). Great and fun idea!

He would also know about the boy Shepard saw die, so...

Not really...? Or did I misunderstand this?

Shepard talks about seeing the boy die on Earth to Garrus, and Glyph listens to everything on the Normandy.

And since the shadow broker has access to surveilance feeds from all over the galaxy, he might even have been watching Shepard in his cell, as he saw the boy playing in the park. Who might even have been real at that point.

Although a simpler explanation might be that he just pulled the image directly from Shepard's head a la Leviathan.

[Restrider]

@ LDS_Revan: True!

@ everyone:
In the words of the Asari Adept:
"I'm bleeding out I'm out..."

[Dwailing]

demersel wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
Though, I don't currently see where else this texture comes up...especially in the dreams. The only other place that comes into mind would be TIM's hologram on Thessia.

It is a different texture there. 

So, this is real?  As in, real real?  That's... awesome!

[hukbum]

spotlessvoid wrote...

My biggest problem with glyph being the intelligence is if it wasn't for Liara he'd probably have been tossed out an airlock. Maybe that says something about Liara, but being ultra annoying isn't the best way to ensure close proximity with your target. Id be pretty irked if such a doofus "character" gets revealed as the Reaper Overlord

Yes, but it's funny to think of it that way.

[Sharkey1337]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Shepard talks about seeing the boy die on Earth to Garrus, and Glyph listens to everything on the Normandy.

Problem is that Glyph still wouldn't know what the actual boy looked like. But, if the child truly was just in Shepard's imagination such as the IT discusses, it's rather moot as the Reapers already use his image to affect Shepard, from his "death" on Earth, appearance in dreams, and form used by the Catalyst.

demersel wrote...


It isn't new. It is a very old one. 

Here's my original topic about it. 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11342724

Ah, apologies! It's new to me as I haven't popped into this thread in a VERY long time.

Modifié par Sharkey1337, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:23 .

[Eryri]

spotlessvoid wrote...

My biggest problem with glyph being the intelligence is if it wasn't for Liara he'd probably have been tossed out an airlock. Maybe that says something about Liara, but being ultra annoying isn't the best way to ensure close proximity with your target. Id be pretty irked if such a doofus "character" gets revealed as the Reaper Overlord

He may not be the overlord any more.

Bit like Davros getting demoted to the status of "batty relative in the basement" by the Supreme Dalek.

If the reapers are an example of an AI singularity - then they would be an improvement on their creator, and would naturally usurp him.

Modifié par Eryri, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:25 .

[hukbum]

Talking about the Child - there was this picture about the child (I think from the artbook) in comparison to all 3 Shep background.

Modifié par hukbum, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:25 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Shepard talks about seeing the boy die on Earth to Garrus, and Glyph listens to everything on the Normandy.

Problem is that Glyph still wouldn't know what the actual boy looked like. But, if the child truly was just in Shepard's imagination such as the IT discusses, it's rather moot as the Reapers already use his image to affect Shepard, from his "death" on Earth, appearance in dreams, and form used by the Catalyst.

I'm of the persuasion that the boy on Earth was real. Someone else stated that he could've received the boy's image from either a surveilance feed, like the Superintendent from Halo 3: ODST does, or done what Leviathan did and pull the image from Shepard's mind.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:25 .

[demersel]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Shepard talks about seeing the boy die on Earth to Garrus, and Glyph listens to everything on the Normandy.

Problem is that Glyph still wouldn't know what the actual boy looked like. But, if the child truly was just in Shepard's imagination such as the IT discusses, it's rather moot as the Reapers already use his image to affect Shepard, from his "death" on Earth, appearance in dreams, and form used by the Catalyst.

You see, the ending does happen in Shepards imagination. 

But it does not cancel the fact that there was an intelligence that leviathans created. So if it isn't the catalyst as shepard sees it, since he imagines it all, then where is it? 
Glyph might be it. 

Modifié par demersel, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:29 .

[cavs25]

I have a bad feeling I am going to be disappointed when the DLC is announced =(
I hope not because I want to love Mass Effect 3
So come IT

[Sharkey1337]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

 I'm of the persuasion that the boy on Earth was real. Someone else stated that he could've received the boy's image from either a surveilance feed, like the Superintendent from Halo 3: ODST, or done what Leviathan did and pull the image from Shepard's mind.

Yeah, I think the child is real when we first see him playing with the ship, but after that it's in Shepard's head, such as seeing him run into the building with the locked door where he hides in the vent. That is a good point that Glyph would've seen Shepard looking at the kid from his cell, as I'm sure Liara would've wanted surveilance on Shepard during his 'incarceration'. And maybe it is possible that the Reapers could simply pull it from his head as well, as the indoctrination would've been slowly building at this point.

[archangel1996]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

 I'm of the persuasion that the boy on Earth was real. Someone else stated that he could've received the boy's image from either a surveilance feed, like the Superintendent from Halo 3: ODST, or done what Leviathan did and pull the image from Shepard's mind.

Yeah, I think the child is real when we first see him playing with the ship, but after that it's in Shepard's head, such as seeing him run into the building with the locked door where he hides in the vent. That is a good point that Glyph would've seen Shepard looking at the kid from his cell, as I'm sure Liara would've wanted surveilance on Shepard during his 'incarceration'. And maybe it is possible that the Reapers could simply pull it from his head as well, as the indoctrination would've been slowly building at this point.

And then, why in the blue hell should a, let's say, 8 years old child refuse the help of an adult? At that age adults=protection

Modifié par archangel1996, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:31 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

 I'm of the persuasion that the boy on Earth was real. Someone else stated that he could've received the boy's image from either a surveilance feed, like the Superintendent from Halo 3: ODST, or done what Leviathan did and pull the image from Shepard's mind.

Yeah, I think the child is real when we first see him playing with the ship, but after that it's in Shepard's head, such as seeing him run into the building with the locked door where he hides in the vent. That is a good point that Glyph would've seen Shepard looking at the kid from his cell, as I'm sure Liara would've wanted surveilance on Shepard during his 'incarceration'. And maybe it is possible that the Reapers could simply pull it from his head as well, as the indoctrination would've been slowly building at this point.

ok, but I mean he is real until the Reaper Destroyer destroys the transport he is on. The official artbook states that the boy is supposed to reprezsent those Shepard couldn't save and I don't think they'd go that far with IT to the point of lying in official items to cover a single clue. Also, to defend the Catalyst being overlord over Glyph, he could have done it instantaneously too, like Leviathan did.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .

[archangel1996]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

 I'm of the persuasion that the boy on Earth was real. Someone else stated that he could've received the boy's image from either a surveilance feed, like the Superintendent from Halo 3: ODST, or done what Leviathan did and pull the image from Shepard's mind.

Yeah, I think the child is real when we first see him playing with the ship, but after that it's in Shepard's head, such as seeing him run into the building with the locked door where he hides in the vent. That is a good point that Glyph would've seen Shepard looking at the kid from his cell, as I'm sure Liara would've wanted surveilance on Shepard during his 'incarceration'. And maybe it is possible that the Reapers could simply pull it from his head as well, as the indoctrination would've been slowly building at this point.

ok, but I mean he is real until the Reaper Destroyer destroys the transport he is on. The official artbook states that the boy is supposed to reprezsent those Shepard couldn't save and I don't think they'd go that far with IT to the point of lying in official items to cover a single clue. Also, to defend the Catalyst, he could have done it instantaneously too, like Leviathan did.

Maybe he is, but i always thought that was strange thaht NO ONE helped the child get in the shuttle

Modifié par archangel1996, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:33 .