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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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my brother just saw the endings for the first time, he believes IT

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Home run MF wrote...

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Teoria Adoctrinamiento


te falto el acento   *Teoría del Adoctrinamiento

Actually, I think it should translate to Teoría de la Adoctrinación.


Probably! I just remembered adoctrinamiento sounded cooler :P

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I'm still very much believing the idea that Harbinger is the intelligence referred to by Leviathan. I mean after all, Harbinger considers himself a deity and was the first reaper, reapers are a mix of synthetic and organic.. so it only makes sense for the intelligence to put himself in with the organic material of the Leviathans.

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umadcommander wrote...

my brother just saw the endings for the first time, he believes IT

Does this prove IT?






Im joking Of Course, that's great! Wait till he sees all the videos about it!

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm still very much believing the idea that Harbinger is the intelligence referred to by Leviathan. I mean after all, Harbinger considers himself a deity and was the first reaper, reapers are a mix of synthetic and organic.. so it only makes sense for the intelligence to put himself in with the organic material of the Leviathans.


I'm rather partial to this hypothesis since it would restore Harby to his proper place as Big Bad.  See my sig for my own thoughts on Harby and the Intelligence.  Specifically, the Post-Breath Scene Hypothesis.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm still very much believing the idea that Harbinger is the intelligence referred to by Leviathan. I mean after all, Harbinger considers himself a deity and was the first reaper, reapers are a mix of synthetic and organic.. so it only makes sense for the intelligence to put himself in with the organic material of the Leviathans.

Plus, the Reaper on Rannoch says "Harbinger speaks of you. You resist, but you will fail." So clearly Harbinger is telling all the Reapers about Shepard. Also, he personally directed the beam run when Shepard charged it.

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CoolioThane wrote...

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Teoria Adoctrinamiento


te falto el acento   *Teoría del Adoctrinamiento


No tengo acentos en mi teclado :/

 


ni yo, copie la letra con acento de google

Modifié par Fur28, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:20 .


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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm still very much believing the idea that Harbinger is the intelligence referred to by Leviathan. I mean after all, Harbinger considers himself a deity and was the first reaper, reapers are a mix of synthetic and organic.. so it only makes sense for the intelligence to put himself in with the organic material of the Leviathans.


This would be good too. As long as we get some sort of revelation that makes sense of the ending, I'm pretty easy going about specifics.

Anyway 'night all. ^_^

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I hope the next OP will have an Allied Goal. I really want more URs and Promotionals per week.

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But I think it's real. This texture in contained in the package for the Guardian.


The Guardian.pcc package also contains the default textures for the boy (same ones you saw on Earth in Vancouver). The textures that look like clothes or a uniform, not this one. It's just layered.


So, can I start honestly saying that IT is proven?  Because that's something I've wanted to say for a very FRAKKING long time.


I would very much appreciate an answer to this question. :P

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401 Kill wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

my brother just saw the endings for the first time, he believes IT

Does this prove IT?






Im joking Of Course, that's great! Wait till he sees all the videos about it!


his first words when he finished "when they finishing it then" .So then i showed him all this :D

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umadcommander wrote...

his first words when he finished "when they finishing it then" .So then i showed him all this :D


Did he like it? 

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Dwailing wrote...

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But I think it's real. This texture in contained in the package for the Guardian.


The Guardian.pcc package also contains the default textures for the boy (same ones you saw on Earth in Vancouver). The textures that look like clothes or a uniform, not this one. It's just layered.


So, can I start honestly saying that IT is proven?  Because that's something I've wanted to say for a very FRAKKING long time.


I would very much appreciate an answer to this question. :P


i would like to say yes, but you know as well as i that literalists will not see it that way 

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Dwailing wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

magnetite wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But I think it's real. This texture in contained in the package for the Guardian.


The Guardian.pcc package also contains the default textures for the boy (same ones you saw on Earth in Vancouver). The textures that look like clothes or a uniform, not this one. It's just layered.


So, can I start honestly saying that IT is proven?  Because that's something I've wanted to say for a very FRAKKING long time.


I would very much appreciate an answer to this question. :P

Unfortunately, not. However, this is strong evidence for IT, but it could possibly also mean that the artists simply grouped textures for the child's model in a single package.

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Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Teoria Adoctrinamiento


te falto el acento   *Teoría del Adoctrinamiento


No tengo acentos en mi teclado :/


ni yo, copie la letra con acento de google

Hola, Como estas. Mi color favorita es roja. Me gusta jugar ME.

Modifié par 401 Kill, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:25 .


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As i see it we have two prime suspects for being that intelligence.

- Harbinger.
- Glyph.

Harbinger doesn't get more out of being the intelligence - he is already the main antogonist and the leader of the Reapers.

Glyph on the other hand being the intelligecnce makes the story better and richer.

By the way Glyph being the intelligence does not make him antogonist - he's a neutral side - the observer. 

Modifié par demersel, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:27 .


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demersel wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

his first words when he finished "when they finishing it then" .So then i showed him all this :D


Did he like it? 


He did :), he's kind of your average mass effect player not massively into the lore but invested in the story and he thought this would be a great idea

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never mind.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:30 .


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What's also funny is that it's claimed that every race's genetic DNA is used to make new reapers. Their bodies are broken down and harvested... yet the Reapers used the Protheans to make the Collectors, they turn other organics into ground troops like brutes, marauders, husks, banshees etc. That's hardly breaking them down.

Harbinger hasn't found a race capable of being turned into a reaper since the Leviathans until now, that race of course being human.

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umadcommander wrote...

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So, can I start honestly saying that IT is proven?  Because that's something I've wanted to say for a very FRAKKING long time.

i would like to say yes, but you know as well as i that literalists will not see it that way 


Schrodinger's Cat proves IT.

Unless Bioware explicitly tells us one way or another, IT is both 100% correct and 100% incorrect at the same time.  Yay for quantumm mechanics (and open endings!)

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You all know what? I'm going to say that IT is proven, because, at least in my mind, it is. IT is proven! Go us!

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You all know what? I'm going to say that IT is proven, because, at least in my mind, it is. IT is proven! Go us!


Yes, wrap it up guys. 
We've had a good run. It was a plesure knowing you all. 
Time to pack. 

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

umadcommander wrote...

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So, can I start honestly saying that IT is proven?  Because that's something I've wanted to say for a very FRAKKING long time.

i would like to say yes, but you know as well as i that literalists will not see it that way 


Schrodinger's Cat proves IT.

Unless Bioware explicitly tells us one way or another, IT is both 100% correct and 100% incorrect at the same time.  Yay for quantumm mechanics (and open endings!)


exactly, SPECULATIONS FOR EVERYONE!!!

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demersel wrote...
As i see it we have two prime suspects for being that intelligence.

- Harbinger.
- Glyph.

Harbinger doesn't get more out of being the intelligence - he is already the main antogonist and the leader of the Reapers.


If you believe everything the Leviathan tell you, they creatred the Intelligence, which then wiped them out, turning their race into the first Reaper - which was Harbinger.

Of course.. there's no reason why the AI couldn't then upload itself into Harbinger...

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401 Kill wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Teoria Adoctrinamiento


te falto el acento   *Teoría del Adoctrinamiento


No tengo acentos en mi teclado :/


ni yo, copie la letra con acento de google

Hola, Como estas. Mi color favorita es roja. Me gusta jugar ME.


Estoy muy bien gracias, a mi tambien me gusta El Efecto de la Masa,
mi color favorita es azul porque Caboose, 
Viva Lopez el Pesada

Modifié par Fur28, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:33 .