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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

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Then why isn't the EC included in the Trilogy Pack? And hi AC!

And the VA work was done but they just couldn't get that slide show finished? That's not very believable.


it was included in my copy. It just didn't automatically install itself 


WHAT?? NO WHY CAN"T I REMOVE IT??

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

No matter how unreal the Normandy evac scene may seem, I still believe the illusion starts with Harbinger's laser. Simply because of the dream halo, and it still being the most logical point.


Partially agree.  But I also think Cronos Station and Earth are at least hallucination-influenced reality.  They are just...off.

Its hard to pinpoint exactly when things start going wrong, but Harbinger was where things went completely crazy.

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Back to IT. The battle has been in his mind. Everything up to the beam has been real. Then Harbinger grabs shepards hold of shepards brain and we're off on a jaunt into harbinger (or sovereigns) mind. The perception is off because Shep is undergoing Indoctrination. His judgement is clouded.

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demersel wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Then why isn't the EC included in the Trilogy Pack? And hi AC!

And the VA work was done but they just couldn't get that slide show finished? That's not very believable.


it was included in my copy. It just didn't automatically install itself 


WHAT?? NO WHY CAN"T I REMOVE IT??

Why would you want to do that!? //rhetoric question

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I'm having some fun with the whiners on the "throw in the towel" thread. They seem to believe that all IT theorists hate ME and the endings. I think they're just trying to project their own opinion onto others...

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Andromidius wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

No matter how unreal the Normandy evac scene may seem, I still believe the illusion starts with Harbinger's laser. Simply because of the dream halo, and it still being the most logical point.


Partially agree.  But I also think Cronos Station and Earth are at least hallucination-influenced reality.  They are just...off.

Its hard to pinpoint exactly when things start going wrong, but Harbinger was where things went completely crazy.

I'll be honest with you, during my first playthrough I didn't notice anything wrong with Cronos or London. London felt depressing - true, but it was only after the black screen before the beam run that things started to become increasingly weird. Something was off but I couldn't really tell what. Maybe it was the wide-angle view of the area by the beam (something unlike anything we'd previously seen in ME3), maybe it was the sinister music on the Citadel (or a sudden lack of music during the run), maybe it was the weird camera focusing on things that should really be there (Shepard's wound).

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

I'm having some fun with the whiners on the "throw in the towel" thread. They seem to believe that all IT theorists hate ME and the endings.

Hate ME? Really? Why do they think we care so much?

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Andromidius wrote...

Partially agree.  But I also think Cronos Station and Earth are at least hallucination-influenced reality.  They are just...off.

Its hard to pinpoint exactly when things start going wrong, but Harbinger was where things went completely crazy.

I think reality has been distorted since the third dream, but full blown hallucination only starts with the mako crash because that's when things go from a bit off to complete nuttery.

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paxxton wrote...

WHAT?? NO WHY CAN"T I REMOVE IT??

Why would you want to do that!? //rhetoric question


I prefer my bull**** shorter rather than longer. 

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RavenEyry wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

I'm having some fun with the whiners on the "throw in the towel" thread. They seem to believe that all IT theorists hate ME and the endings.

Hate ME? Really? Why do they think we care so much?

This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard on BSN. How can anyone possibly suggest we hate ME3?

EDIT: Hackett the Reaper (or head of Cerberus, I don't remember which one was it) was at least hilarious. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...
I'm having some fun with the whiners on the "throw in the towel" thread. They seem to believe that all IT theorists hate ME and the endings.

Hate ME? Really? Why do they think we care so much?

This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard on BSN. How can anyone possibly suggest we hate ME3.


Possibly because it makes them feel better about having a different opinion / interpretation?  *shrugs*  Ignorance breeds contempt, I guess.

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Quick bit of info: check dream sequences and Geth census mission: white halo means transistion WITHIN and OUT OF dreams. Fade to black tends to mean start of dream.

Back to school!

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Lokanaiya wrote...

Quick bit of info: check dream sequences and Geth census mission: white halo means transistion WITHIN and OUT OF dreams. Fade to black tends to mean start of dream.

I was thinking about mentioning that in the mako crash discussion, but I wasn't sure it was right, so thanks for that.

Jolt to unconciousness starts the dream, Harby's laser just causes a transition in my opinion.

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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

WHAT?? NO WHY CAN"T I REMOVE IT??

Why would you want to do that!? //rhetoric question


I prefer my bull**** shorter rather than longer. 


Don't you know that children never lie. Posted Image

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

I'm having some fun with the whiners on the "throw in the towel" thread. They seem to believe that all IT theorists hate ME and the endings. I think they're just trying to project their own opinion onto others...


I feel a bit sick after reading that.

Though it could be all that yoghurt I just ate.

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Andromidius wrote...

I feel a bit sick after reading that.

Though it could be all that yoghurt I just ate.

The Protheans continues to be an idiot, apparently knowing what you think more than you do and dismissing IT because there's some disagreement on details.

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****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Quick bit of info: check dream sequences and Geth census mission: white halo means transistion WITHIN and OUT OF dreams. Fade to black tends to mean start of dream.

I was thinking about mentioning that in the mako crash discussion, but I wasn't sure it was right, so thanks for that.

Jolt to unconciousness starts the dream, Harby's laser just causes a transition in my opinion.


Mmm.  Yeah.

Which does lead me to think "when do we know we've transitioned out of a dream?"

But it does lend well to the 'Mako' crash being the start of the hallucination. 

Only downside is that we see Harbinger and Co leaving the space battle beforehand.  Though that also lends itself in another way - we know Harbinger is coming, so it makes sense that bad things happen when he's directly involved and focused on Shepard.  And none of the other Reapers escorting him are anywhere to be seen.

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CoolioThane wrote...

****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.


Put dat cookie down!

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CoolioThane wrote...

****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.


They probably do, I know exactly the purpose of this thread and no one here will admit it.

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TheProtheans wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.


They probably do, I know exactly the purpose of this thread and no one here will admit it.


Uh huh.  We all know why you're here, too.

Boredom must be a terrible thing.

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TheProtheans wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.


They probably do, I know exactly the purpose of this thread and no one here will admit it.

Could you use those supernatural mind reading abilities of yours to tell us the content of the next DLC?

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RavenEyry wrote...

Could you use those supernatural mind reading abilities of yours to tell us the content of the next DLC?


Screw that.  I want winning lottery numbers.

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RavenEyry wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

****s tend to think they know what you are thinking better than you yourself.


They probably do, I know exactly the purpose of this thread and no one here will admit it.

Could you use those supernatural mind reading abilities of yours to tell us the content of the next DLC?


Citadel DLC, something to do with C-SEC and stopping some mad Asari's or Quarians.

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Andromidius wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Could you use those supernatural mind reading abilities of yours to tell us the content of the next DLC?


Screw that.  I want winning lottery numbers.


What lotto do you do?