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[hukbum]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Low EMS Shepard sucks and shouldn't even be used as evidence. If THAT was the best someone could honestly do in this game (not on purpose) then why did they even bother?

There I said it.

It's like Shep's death in ME2.....i tried and i didn't succeed

Exactly, nobody is going to be that dumb on happenstance. The only way Shepard can die in ME2 is if you TRY to do that. Same deal with ME3.

Which is what I did after 10+ normal runs of ME3. It's still in the game, not counting it because it's dumb is a dumb reason.

Can you load a dead Shep into ME3?.

no, it doesn't recognize that campaign as complete.

I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

[MegumiAzusa]

hukbum wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Low EMS Shepard sucks and shouldn't even be used as evidence. If THAT was the best someone could honestly do in this game (not on purpose) then why did they even bother?

There I said it.

It's like Shep's death in ME2.....i tried and i didn't succeed

Exactly, nobody is going to be that dumb on happenstance. The only way Shepard can die in ME2 is if you TRY to do that. Same deal with ME3.

Which is what I did after 10+ normal runs of ME3. It's still in the game, not counting it because it's dumb is a dumb reason.

Can you load a dead Shep into ME3?.

no, it doesn't recognize that campaign as complete.

I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

[IronSabbath88]

My point is that nobody strives for a horrible game. You have to WANT to do it.

Hence why it shouldn't be considered much in regards to the grand scheme of things.

[Humakt83]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'm not counting it because most players don't strive for that. It's nothing more than a bonus BioWare put into ME2. To think otherwise is ridiculous. You can't import your game from ME2 to ME3 if Shepard died. It's an easter egg of sorts.

It's not meant to be anything.

My 3rd playthrough was a fail Shepard without imports. Low EMS is very easy to achieve if you deliberately make stupid choices (like saving Rachni Queen clone) and skip most of the content (aka rush to the end).

Modifié par Humakt83, 07 décembre 2012 - 12:48 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Exactly. Shepard story is over with ME3 anyway, so all endings are valid. 

[401 Kill]

Shep dying in ME2 is a valid ending to that game (my opinion) could you please explain why you think it's not valid?

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

401 Kill wrote...

Shep dying in ME2 is a valid ending to that game (my opinion) could you please explain why you think it's not valid?

I consider it valid as well, it just makes ME3 invalid for that playthrough. ME3's endings, however, only have to continue the ME universe and not an individual's story.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

No insults on this page. It may not be the main goal for you, but it may be for others.

[paxxton]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

In fact dying in a suicide mission makes a lot of sense and in the case of ME2 Shepard's death would've been a noble one if only the cause wasn't Joker letting him go.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[hukbum]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

No insults on this page. It may not be the main goal for you, but it may be for others.

Sorry, but I've had the same line of dicussion some pages ago, and I'm getting tired of it.

[DoomsdayDevice]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Megumi, what do you think of this:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


- The refuse stargazer scene is different because Shepard knows (s)he didn't save this cycle.
- The three regular stargazer scenes are identical because in every ending, Shepard believes (or is made to believe) (s)he saved this cycle/ended the Reaper threat.

Shep can die before this scene plays (low EMS) thus this scene is unrelated to Sheps state of mind.

Unless, you know, "the future flashed, for me".

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

I thought you said dying on the Collector Base was equally as canon as everything else.

[MegumiAzusa]

401 Kill wrote...

Shep dying in ME2 is a valid ending to that game (my opinion) could you please explain why you think it's not valid?

Invalid in terms of getting neither the chance in trying to stop the Reapers nor getting the Crucible rolling.
It would be a valid ending if we say anything that doesn't get you a critical mission failure screen. I actually would find it quite nice if the next DLC would be like The Darkspawn Chronicles" where you play the events from a perspective where Shep died on the Collector Base.
It's just that Sheps story ends there, permanently and prematurely. ME3 is the end of Sheps story anyway.

[MegumiAzusa]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

IT doesn't mean "uh nu! I gut tu get teh breth scene!"

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

I thought you said dying on the Collector Base was equally as canon as everything else.

Yes. Bad wording.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

hukbum wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

No insults on this page. It may not be the main goal for you, but it may be for others.

Sorry, but I've had the same line of dicussion some pages ago, and I'm getting tired of it.

I get you're frustrated but this page is under my supervision and I want to say we have at least one page where everyone's nice to each other.

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

IT doesn't mean "uh nu! I gut tu get teh breth scene!"

I know that, but it's also not "low EMS".

[MegumiAzusa]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Megumi, what do you think of this:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


- The refuse stargazer scene is different because Shepard knows (s)he didn't save this cycle.
- The three regular stargazer scenes are identical because in every ending, Shepard believes (or is made to believe) (s)he saved this cycle/ended the Reaper threat.

Shep can die before this scene plays (low EMS) thus this scene is unrelated to Sheps state of mind.

Unless, you know, "the future flashed, for me".

"... after I died!"

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Megumi, what do you think of this:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


- The refuse stargazer scene is different because Shepard knows (s)he didn't save this cycle.
- The three regular stargazer scenes are identical because in every ending, Shepard believes (or is made to believe) (s)he saved this cycle/ended the Reaper threat.

Shep can die before this scene plays (low EMS) thus this scene is unrelated to Sheps state of mind.

Unless, you know, "the future flashed, for me".

What the hell? Megumi keeps trying to argue things literally from an IT perspective. Shepard's not dead in IT.

Anyway, forgot about that quote DD, nice. Did you see my video?

[MegumiAzusa]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

IT doesn't mean "uh nu! I gut tu get teh breth scene!"

I know that, but it's also not "low EMS".

For IT to make sense it has to apply to any ending.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:01 .

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Megumi, what do you think of this:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


- The refuse stargazer scene is different because Shepard knows (s)he didn't save this cycle.
- The three regular stargazer scenes are identical because in every ending, Shepard believes (or is made to believe) (s)he saved this cycle/ended the Reaper threat.

Shep can die before this scene plays (low EMS) thus this scene is unrelated to Sheps state of mind.

Unless, you know, "the future flashed, for me".

What the hell? Megumi keeps trying to argue things literally from an IT perspective. Shepard's not dead in IT.

Anyway, forgot about that quote DD, nice. Did you see my video?

If the game files say Shep dies at that point then Shep dies at that point. No way around that.

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Low EMS is a valid ending. Unlike Shep dying on the Collector Base.

Yep, but it's not the main goal (am I talking to a wall here???) if you play it from a IT viewpoint.

IT doesn't mean "uh nu! I gut tu get teh breth scene!"

I know that, but it's also not "low EMS".

For IT to make sense it has to apply for any ending.

Like dying on the collector base?

[BansheeOwnage]

hukbum wrote...
I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

I'm going to have to +1 this honestly. If you have low EMS, you suck or did it on purpose. You're not playing Mass Effect right. It's like playing action mode...

This page is my supervision.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:01 .

[TJBartlemus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Megumi, what do you think of this:

DoomsdayDevice wrote...


- The refuse stargazer scene is different because Shepard knows (s)he didn't save this cycle.
- The three regular stargazer scenes are identical because in every ending, Shepard believes (or is made to believe) (s)he saved this cycle/ended the Reaper threat.

Shep can die before this scene plays (low EMS) thus this scene is unrelated to Sheps state of mind.

Unless, you know, "the future flashed, for me".

What the hell? Megumi keeps trying to argue things literally from an IT perspective. Shepard's not dead in IT.

Anyway, forgot about that quote DD, nice. Did you see my video?

Shepard isn't dead in Destroy (High EMS) literal or not.