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[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

I'm going to have to +1 this honestly. If you have low EMS, you suck or did it on purpose. You're not playing Mass Effect right. It's like playing action mode...

It's just that I want ALL the content. Why should low EMS be disregarded? It is still content of the game we are discussing. If we stop to take everything into account where do we draw the line? Next thing you do is to disregard everything that doesn't fit with IT... owait.

Are you kidding me?
"But what about the ME2 end where Shepard dies? That should be counted too!"

Low EMS is not nearly as important because it's simply a worse version of something else that already exists. It's like saying we should use an Avenger 1 because it's different than an Avenger X. The Avenger X is better in every way. Not the best analogy, but it works.

You're trolling now, right?
Shepard actually dies in low EMS... there is no indoctrination because she is dead (this also applies to Sheps death in ME2). And there is still the same scene afterwards.
Sheps death in ME2 has next to no meaning in the context of IT. If you look at it or not it doesn't change one bit. Low EMS does.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:35 .

[TJBartlemus]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

This video is mine!

For anyone who missed it.

Hahaha! That was hilarious.

Shepard: I killed Sovereign.
Child: Confidence born of ignorance.

LOL.

Ha thanks. I like that part too. Did anyone catch what I did with Harby's lines at the end? It's hard to notice because they are prerecorded lines, but I hoped some people might hear it.

"We are the beginning, you will be the end."

Alpha - Reaper's entrance to the Galaxy
Omega - Culmination of all the races of the cycle.

Hmmm...

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

I'm going to have to +1 this honestly. If you have low EMS, you suck or did it on purpose. You're not playing Mass Effect right. It's like playing action mode...

It's just that I want ALL the content. Why should low EMS be disregarded? It is still content of the game we are discussing. If we stop to take everything into account where do we draw the line? Next thing you do is to disregard everything that doesn't fit with IT... owait.

Are you kidding me?
"But what about the ME2 end where Shepard dies? That should be counted too!"

Low EMS is not nearly as important because it's simply a worse version of something else that already exists. It's like saying we should use an Avenger 1 because it's different than an Avenger X. The Avenger X is better in every way. Not the best analogy, but it works.

You're trolling now, right?
Shepard actually dies in low EMS... there is no indoctrination because she is dead. And there is still the same scene afterwards.

[Accuses Banshee of trolling]   

Nope. What do you mean "Shepard actually dies"? And who cares about the Stargazer scene. There are probably more ways to interpret that than the end itself!

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

This video is mine!

For anyone who missed it.

Hahaha! That was hilarious.

Shepard: I killed Sovereign.
Child: Confidence born of ignorance.

LOL.

Ha thanks. I like that part too. Did anyone catch what I did with Harby's lines at the end? It's hard to notice because they are prerecorded lines, but I hoped some people might hear it.

"We are the beginning, you will be the end."

It's a very interesting (and unmodified) line, but I was getting at something involving all of his lines. I'll give you a hint: It's a thing adressed to Shepard.

[paxxton]

From another Banshee's video: "The Crucible won't discriminate, ALL life will be targeted." lol

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:36 .

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

This video is mine!

For anyone who missed it.

Hahaha! That was hilarious.

Shepard: I killed Sovereign.
Child: Confidence born of ignorance.

LOL.

Ha thanks. I like that part too. Did anyone catch what I did with Harby's lines at the end? It's hard to notice because they are prerecorded lines, but I hoped some people might hear it.

"We are the beginning, you will be the end."

It's a very interesting (and unmodified) line, but I was getting at something involving all of his lines. I'll give you a hint: It's a thing adressed to Shepard.

"You are cold"?

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I know, but all this "low EMS, low EMS, low EMS". Who cares about low EMS?
It proves or disproves nothing.

I'm going to have to +1 this honestly. If you have low EMS, you suck or did it on purpose. You're not playing Mass Effect right. It's like playing action mode...

It's just that I want ALL the content. Why should low EMS be disregarded? It is still content of the game we are discussing. If we stop to take everything into account where do we draw the line? Next thing you do is to disregard everything that doesn't fit with IT... owait.

Are you kidding me?
"But what about the ME2 end where Shepard dies? That should be counted too!"

Low EMS is not nearly as important because it's simply a worse version of something else that already exists. It's like saying we should use an Avenger 1 because it's different than an Avenger X. The Avenger X is better in every way. Not the best analogy, but it works.

You're trolling now, right?
Shepard actually dies in low EMS... there is no indoctrination because she is dead. And there is still the same scene afterwards.

[Accuses Banshee of trolling]   

Nope. What do you mean "Shepard actually dies"? And who cares about the Stargazer scene. There are probably more ways to interpret that than the end itself!

To quote my edit:

You're trolling now, right?
Shepard actually dies in low EMS... there is no indoctrination because she is dead (this also applies to Sheps death in ME2). And there is still the same scene afterwards.
Sheps death in ME2 has next to no meaning in the context of IT. If you look at it or not it doesn't change one bit. Low EMS does.

People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Here's a little bit of light-hearted humour, hopefully for your enjoyment.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 07 décembre 2012 - 02:10 .

[TJBartlemus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

[Accuses Banshee of trolling]   

Nope. What do you mean "Shepard actually dies"? And who cares about the Stargazer scene. There are probably more ways to interpret that than the end itself!

 Sorry but I am feeling that this conversation is in a grey area. It's effectively unargueable cause no one is gonna win. There are many different ways how to interpret this and all are right until proven wrong by an authority of BioWare. 

 Also I have to comment...who cares about the stargazer scene and low EMS? Not a lot to interpret there. Low EMS it is most likely that Shepard dies and the stargazer scene is just a teaser for future content in the ME universe much like the ending scenes after the credits in Halo. 

EDIT - When I say in Low EMS shep is dead, I mean that he dies after the choice. Most likely cause he lacks the strength to recover after the mental attack, but is still successful in beating indoctrination. Only by High EMS can he survive through the ordeal / injuries.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:44 .

[BansheeOwnage]

paxxton wrote...

From another Banshee's video: "The Crucible won't discriminate, ALL life will be targeted." lol

"But he could never have taken control, because we already trolled him."

"It is now in your power to destroy us. We created the cycle so that never happens."

A couple of my personal ffavourites.

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Here's a little bit of light-hearted humour, hopefully for your enjoyment.
*snip*

Mind = blown.  Great job. Fits very well.

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade to black when the door is opening implies it.

[TJBartlemus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade abrupt change to black when the door is opening implies it.

Fixed it. :happy:

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade to black when the door is opening implies it.

Did you not read my post earlier today about using game files as evidence? Well I'll recap. They all must be taken with large portions of salt, as they are shorthand. Otherwise, you must also believe the "dream foliage" in the Normandy crash means 100% that they are in a dream, which also contradicts Shepard being dead anyway.

TL;DR
The files contradict each other.

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...


Did you see my video?

Yeah! Loved it, of course!

What video?

This video is mine!
For anyone who missed it.

That was epic.


And I mean that.

[paxxton]

OT: The next Doctor? https://twitter.com/...825332848418816

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:57 .

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...


Did you see my video?

Yeah! Loved it, of course!

What video?

This video is mine!
For anyone who missed it.

That was epic.


And I mean that.

 Thanks. By the way, I know it was hard to hear, so I'll explain the Harbinger thing at the end of the video. We all know he's been... interested in Shepard for quite some time. So, he wrote her/him a poem!

Seriously, it does rhyme. (I know it sucks.)

Shepard: ಠಠಠ_ಠಠಠ

Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater
We are the beginning, you will be the end
You are called; you must answer
You insult a future you cannot comprehend

One must not destroy the nation
You are the one wasting lives
The void awaits your ascension
Organic life will not survive

ಠಠಠ_ಠಠಠ

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 07 décembre 2012 - 02:04 .

[MegumiAzusa]

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade abrupt change to black when the door is opening implies it.

Fixed it. :happy:

Still fits and the scene looks bugged as it's not completely black and doesn't stop but you can even see camera movement.
Point is the file with the name that Shep dies is specific for low EMS, and still completely in sync with what we see.

[TJBartlemus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade abrupt change to black when the door is opening implies it.

Fixed it. :happy:

Still fits and the scene looks bugged as it's not completely black and doesn't stop but you can even see camera movement.
Point is the file with the name that Shep dies is specific for low EMS, and still completely in sync with what we see.

 So you're saying in all endings Shepard dies, or in all of them he lives? Sorry, I missed a good portion of the conversation and am trying to figure your arguement out.

[BansheeOwnage]

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

Also, if you want to go with the game files, then those leaves are in a dream and control is bad no matter what. You can't have it both ways.

I got to get out of here.[/quote]
Which would result in high EMS being also a dream, which would result in the last choice being irrelevant, which would result in bad writing. Do you want to believe that?[/quote]
High EMS is a dream.
???

@TJ Actually, I don't think you missed any of it. I've been trying to understand Megumi and utterly failing today...

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 07 décembre 2012 - 02:11 .

[BansheeOwnage]

FFZero wrote...

demersel wrote...

Restrider wrote...

DreamFoilage_ is no real support since that is also used in Shepard's dreams. I say re-used assets.

Is Dreamlight_tile used in Shepard's dreams? Cause that would be a place to use it. 

Yes it is used in the dreams, I think it's the texture used on the shadows.

Hmm. Doesn't prove anything, but it's interesting. Especially once again when you consider everything in the end to be "flipped" or reversed.

[MegumiAzusa]

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
People here are jumping around trying to fit it in, saying it's part of Sheps dream, but at that point Shep is dead, therefor it is real. Real and always the same but for Opt Out.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why is Shepard dead already? Maybe TJ is right. Maybe we should drop it. Just like Rif... just like Dem... just like Blur...

Again: because the game files say so and the slow fade abrupt change to black when the door is opening implies it.

Fixed it. :happy:

Still fits and the scene looks bugged as it's not completely black and doesn't stop but you can even see camera movement.
Point is the file with the name that Shep dies is specific for low EMS, and still completely in sync with what we see.

 So you're saying in all endings Shepard dies, or in all of them he lives? Sorry, I missed a good portion of the conversation and am trying to figure your arguement out.

I'm saying Shep dies at exactly that point in low EMS.

[DoomsdayDevice]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Here's a little bit of light-hearted humour, hopefully for your enjoyment.
*snip*

Mind = blown.  Great job. Fits very well.

I've updated it with 2 new slides!

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 07 décembre 2012 - 02:14 .

[MegumiAzusa]

DD how about using url instead of img for 3+ pictures?