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[RavenEyry]

Unlimited ammo is only one of the things wrong with the endgame gun. It also uses the wrong reload animation.

Also TIM's gun uses the wrong sound effect.

[tangythang]

Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
infinite ammo: without the three husketeers and marauder shields would be even more depressing for console players.

While I partially agree on the other points I haven't quoted here, I have to ask you his:
We already had infinite ammo at the beginning of the game, but we could see Shepard reloading with clips. Why not use the same mechanic in the post-beam part?

The codex explanation is beautifully done. This is what makes ME universe, hard-science-fiction, not space magic.

Small Arms

Modern infantry weapons are micro-scaled mass accelerators, using mass-reducing fields and magnetic force to propel miniature slugs to lethal speeds. Nearly every gun on the battlefield is laden with features, from targeting auto-assists to projectile shavers that can generate thousands of rounds of ammunition from a small, internal block of metal.

It was long thought that personal weapons had plateaued in performance, but the geth proved all theories wrong. Mathematically reviewing their combat logs, the geth found that in an age of kinetic barriers, most firefights were won by the side who could put the most rounds down-range the fastest. But combatants were forced to deliberately shoot slower to manage waste heat, or pause as their weapons vented.

To eliminate this inefficiency, the geth adopted detachable heat sinks known as thermal clips. While organic arms manufacturers were initially doubtful this would produce a net gain, a well-trained soldier can eject and swap thermal clips in under a second. Faced with superior enemy firepower, organic armies soon followed the geth's lead, and today's battlefields are littered with these thermal clips.

Modifié par tangythang, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:13 .

[BatmanTurian]

RavenEyry wrote...

Unlimited ammo is only one of the things wrong with the endgame gun. It also uses the wrong reload animation.

Also TIM's gun uses the wrong sound effect.

"Bioware is lazy."

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

Any more news about on the Citadel DLC?

It's coming...

Many writers, VAs and music composers are working on it. Among them Green, Sbarge, Weekes, Dobrov, Hullick.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:15 .

[Restrider]

What a boring weekend OP....

[MegumiAzusa]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Oh boy! When is the fighting in the IT thread gonna stop. Finding good information here is like finding a pinch of gold in a dungheap most days.

When Estebanus and Megumi decide to stop acting like interrogators instead of discussing things from a nuetral perspective.

Axe grinding doesn't help.  And I've seen you (and other 'core' ITers) be just as disruptive to this thread.

[/speaking mostly as an observer here]

Antagonistic (the English fails me here) interrogation of IT beliefs is good for IT IMO. Too much of what people believe about IT is not based on IT 'facts' (evidence), but on hearsay or their own clouded theories.

And look, now it seems I'm fighting too.  Is it something in the water?

I've only responded to hostility. This is actually something I rarely do. Your view of me is skewed.

I disagree with this assessment.

[N7L4D]

TSA_383 wrote...

Any more news about on the Citadel DLC?

The scary looking cat ask questions, questions I wish I had answers for :/

[Restrider]

And here we go...

[BatmanTurian]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Oh boy! When is the fighting in the IT thread gonna stop. Finding good information here is like finding a pinch of gold in a dungheap most days.

When Estebanus and Megumi decide to stop acting like interrogators instead of discussing things from a nuetral perspective.

Axe grinding doesn't help.  And I've seen you (and other 'core' ITers) be just as disruptive to this thread.

[/speaking mostly as an observer here]

Antagonistic (the English fails me here) interrogation of IT beliefs is good for IT IMO. Too much of what people believe about IT is not based on IT 'facts' (evidence), but on hearsay or their own clouded theories.

And look, now it seems I'm fighting too.  Is it something in the water?

I've only responded to hostility. This is actually something I rarely do. Your view of me is skewed.

I disagree with this assessment.

And here I was trying to make peace with you. I'm actually as polite as I can be under some circumstances. Some days that is easier than others. I see you as impolite. Perhaps our personalities just conflict.

[hukbum]

Restrider wrote...

And here we go...

What Kindergarten Mark are at now? V? Or is it already VI?

[BatmanTurian]

Restrider wrote...

And here we go...

It's okay. Talking it out is healthier than letting it be the big gorilla in the room.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Shepard is outside the hull of the Citadel. Even if a force field of some kind was established, it would be protecting only the space under Shepard's feet. In the ending Shepard is actually walking on the hull of the Citadel. And there is no magical bubble that would suddenly start to encompass the decision chamber if Shepard was there.

Plus, you don't activate anything by destroying something that is part of it (or connects to it). And don't tell me that the tube pumps coolant to the Crucible because destroying it would make the Crucible blow up, not fire. Yeah, right, maybe it blew up and killed the whole Galaxy in the low-EMS ending.

It's even shown in the EC. (One of the few good points in it)

[BatmanTurian]

hukbum wrote...

Restrider wrote...

And here we go...

What Kindergarten Mark are at now? V? Or is it already VI?

Some of the earlier threads could be a lot worse than this, I assure you.

[MegumiAzusa]

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Yeah, you're all poor victims of our cruel injustice. It's everything just too deep for me and Megumi to understand it all.

Stop acting like you're the victim. Both sides are equally guilty.

I'm not pretending anything. I just see two people making arguments in a less civil way than is needed sometimes. Getting overly emotional about it won't make changing yourself any easier if you can't look in a mirror.

I could say the same about many ITers who say that everyone else but them is a weak-minded idiot, that they're blind to the truth, that it's too deep for them and several other things. 

Oh boy. Arguing about arguing.

I'm just trying to bring some calm to this thread because it's been on fire the last two days. I think we either have some miscommunication or there is some genuine hostility or a little of both. We can't move forward unless that is reconciled.

Yup best way to do that is to start with an insult. Way to go genius.

[MegumiAzusa]

dorktainian wrote...

Judging by the size of the explosion on the citadel when shep triggers destroy, there is no way at all any of him would remain after a blast that size.  only way he could have survived that blast is if he was still in london.

That is your opinion with no real fact to back it up because it's still sci fi.
Also the explosion originates from the Crucible which is blowing up.

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Shepard is outside the hull of the Citadel. Even if a force field of some kind was established, it would be protecting only the space under Shepard's feet. In the ending Shepard is actually walking on the hull of the Citadel. And there is no magical bubble that would suddenly start to encompass the decision chamber if Shepard was there.

Plus, you don't activate anything by destroying something that is part of it (or connects to it). And don't tell me that the tube pumps coolant to the Crucible because destroying it would make the Crucible blow up, not fire. Yeah, right, maybe it blew up and killed the whole Galaxy in the low-EMS ending.

It's even shown in the EC. (One of the few good points in it)

What does "it" exactly refer to?

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:24 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
infinite ammo: without the three husketeers and marauder shields would be even more depressing for console players.

While I partially agree on the other points I haven't quoted here, I have to ask you his:
We already had infinite ammo at the beginning of the game, but we could see Shepard reloading with clips. Why not use the same mechanic in the post-beam part?

Because of exactly what I said. Console player barely managed to kill the three husketeers and marauder shields without reloading. What do you think how many complaints would there be if there was reloading too?

[MegumiAzusa]

N7L4D wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Oh boy! When is the fighting in the IT thread gonna stop. Finding good information here is like finding a pinch of gold in a dungheap most days.

When Estebanus and Megumi decide to stop acting like interrogators instead of discussing things from a nuetral perspective.

Really? I could say the same about you. Wasting resources on a war you cannot win.

IllusiveAzusa!

My identity got revealed

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Yeah, you're all poor victims of our cruel injustice. It's everything just too deep for me and Megumi to understand it all.

Stop acting like you're the victim. Both sides are equally guilty.

I'm not pretending anything. I just see two people making arguments in a less civil way than is needed sometimes. Getting overly emotional about it won't make changing yourself any easier if you can't look in a mirror.

I could say the same about many ITers who say that everyone else but them is a weak-minded idiot, that they're blind to the truth, that it's too deep for them and several other things. 

Oh boy. Arguing about arguing.

I'm just trying to bring some calm to this thread because it's been on fire the last two days. I think we either have some miscommunication or there is some genuine hostility or a little of both. We can't move forward unless that is reconciled.

Yup best way to do that is to start with an insult. Way to go genius.

Um, Megumi, I don't think Batman started with an insult.  I think you're being a bit too sensitive lately.  Because I've been present for genuine insults, and what he just said is not an insult.

[BatmanTurian]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Yup best way to do that is to start with an insult. Way to go genius.

I found it to be an accurate statement. Your tones were hostile. Still are with you apparently. Can't we just let it go and talk like adults?

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[MegumiAzusa]

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Mhm, out of curiosity:
Since estabanus and Megumi challange the current state of IT, I am genuinely curious to know what your takes on the endings are?
Everything literal? Waking Nightmare? Deception Theory? Bad Writing? Something completely different?
I always see you trying to deconstruct the IT (this is not meant to be offensive or judgemental btw!), but in contrast to Heretic_Hanar, who has often stated that he thinks Bad Writing is what happened, I am not so sure what you think...

Pre EC: everything is fine.
Post: BW made some serious mistakes to hold up IT. In my opinion low EMS destroy completely denies the possibility of Shep never reaching the Citadel/opening the arms because of first Sheps death, then Hackett speech.
Maybe the last thing with the Guardian is an illusion, Shep still opened the arms and the Crucible docked. And because if you refuse nothing happens means at least something is real of that choice. It doesn't matter if in the real world Shep never shoots the stuff but pushes a button, what matters is that the choice itself is real and has real consequences to the state of the crucible. I dunno if it is closest to WNT because there are some points there I disagree on, which is why I say "We find a new solution"

And that's fine. Maybe the theory needs tweaked. It is getting a little dusty.

Which is what I said from the beginning but got insulted because of it. The literal stuff was to open the eyes that IT isn't the only viable option, and to show there are logical conclusions to be made for some scenes, like Restrider did, which in turn wouldn't make much sense for IT.

[KyreneZA]

Restrider wrote...

Mhm, out of curiosity:
Since estabanus and Megumi challange the current state of IT, I am genuinely curious to know what your takes on the endings are?
Everything literal? Waking Nightmare? Deception Theory? Bad Writing? Something completely different?
I always see you trying to deconstruct the IT (this is not meant to be offensive or judgemental btw!), but in contrast to Heretic_Hanar, who has often stated that he thinks Bad Writing is what happened, I am not so sure what you think...

I presume you were actually asking me, since your post was almost right below mine.

I don't know. There is some really funky **** going on in this game that cannot just be handwaved as bad implementation (I'm a software designer myself) or writing. There is also some funky **** that just smacks of the ripe stench of greed on BioWare's (EA's?) part, mixed in with a good dose of "we ****ed up, but as long as we stick to the official line, we can still milk the (cash) cow." And the EC did NOT help. And them not outright denying IT didn't help. And Omega being IMO just a cash grab didn't either.

I'd like to believe that they are geniuses and every scrap of veryfiable IT evidence that has been unearthed is true and was intended. That would be ****en awesome because of how it pushed the envelope of the medium. However, as I said, I work in the industry... When the chips are down you get the product out the door and fix it afterwards if required and time permits.

My Shepard is languishing in orbit over Rannoch, where he will stay until all DLC has been released (and I see the slightly bigger picture), or forever.

[Restrider]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
infinite ammo: without the three husketeers and marauder shields would be even more depressing for console players.

While I partially agree on the other points I haven't quoted here, I have to ask you his:
We already had infinite ammo at the beginning of the game, but we could see Shepard reloading with clips. Why not use the same mechanic in the post-beam part?

Because of exactly what I said. Console player barely managed to kill the three husketeers and marauder shields without reloading. What do you think how many complaints would there be if there was reloading too?

Then just reduce the HP of the Husketeers and Marauder Shields. They did that with MS.
But I see your point.

[BatmanTurian]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Mhm, out of curiosity:
Since estabanus and Megumi challange the current state of IT, I am genuinely curious to know what your takes on the endings are?
Everything literal? Waking Nightmare? Deception Theory? Bad Writing? Something completely different?
I always see you trying to deconstruct the IT (this is not meant to be offensive or judgemental btw!), but in contrast to Heretic_Hanar, who has often stated that he thinks Bad Writing is what happened, I am not so sure what you think...

Pre EC: everything is fine.
Post: BW made some serious mistakes to hold up IT. In my opinion low EMS destroy completely denies the possibility of Shep never reaching the Citadel/opening the arms because of first Sheps death, then Hackett speech.
Maybe the last thing with the Guardian is an illusion, Shep still opened the arms and the Crucible docked. And because if you refuse nothing happens means at least something is real of that choice. It doesn't matter if in the real world Shep never shoots the stuff but pushes a button, what matters is that the choice itself is real and has real consequences to the state of the crucible. I dunno if it is closest to WNT because there are some points there I disagree on, which is why I say "We find a new solution"

And that's fine. Maybe the theory needs tweaked. It is getting a little dusty.

Which is what I said from the beginning but got insulted because of it. The literal stuff was to open the eyes that IT isn't the only viable option, and to show there are logical conclusions to be made for some scenes, like Restrider did, which in turn wouldn't make much sense for IT.

I know, Megumi. But as I and others have said multiple times before, it's the way you say it and present it. I'm fine with trying to cut the fat and refine the theory, but we can't do that in an environment of hostility.

[paxxton]

dorktainian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

There are 2 possivilities:
1. Shepard has failed.
2. IT and BioWare simply repeats their PR line from before the game's release to not give away the Secret (pun intended).

But Shepard hasn't failed! S/he stopped the reaper menace in each ending!

No, he didn't. The Breath Scene is a peek into the real world and the Reapers are still around.

Yes they are clearly horning and stomping around in that scene. How could I have missed that so far? :C

I heard Reapers. That was my very first thought: Shepard is in London and the Reapers are wandering around shooting lasers and destroying the city, possibly because they don't need it anymore.

yep.  beam in the background, concrete structures (on the citadel?.....err....nope) suspicious object rho looking reaper artifacts as you pan across screen, the sound of the beam, and the fact that after shep is hit at the base of the beam everything goes to lalaland - including a gun with infinite bullets.  Wake up neo.  

The beam was deactivated in that scene, actually.

its showing you red = good (wake up) and blue = bad (stay indoctrinated)

I was referring to the Breath Scene. The Reapers had deactivated the beam because it's only purpose was to call Shepard home. In ME2 Cerberus secretly implanted a homing device into Shepard that made him respond to the signal sent out by the beam. Since the indoctrination attempt failed, there was no need to waste electricity.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:44 .