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Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later

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Rifneno

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?

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Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?


Even after googling, only one of those.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:45 .


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Hanako Ikezawa

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Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?

he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.

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Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?


I got that he's an arms dealer to story-based characters, but I'm not sure what gidjits are, or how you repair them.

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Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie


Poorly.

I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:47 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?

he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.


Ahh.  Thanks.  Must've missed that post.

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spotlessvoid

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At work. Power went out. It's back up. I was making a comment on the trivial nature of my employment tasks. Because they are

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paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie


Poorly.

I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.


I'd watch "Archangel: Batman's a *****."

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Hanako Ikezawa

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Rifneno wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later


Did that make sense to anyone else?

he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.


Ahh.  Thanks.  Must've missed that post.

I don't know if he posted it, but that's how it sounded to me so i was answering your question because to me it made sense..

Edit: I was right.Posted Image

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:50 .


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paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie


Poorly.

I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.


Spectre powers, activate!

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I really like Tela Vasir...

But I'll stick to my old avatar...

Modifié par Restrider, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:19 .


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Any news on the DLC today?

Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice

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BleedingUranium

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Restrider wrote...

I really like Tela Vasir...


Apparently! Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie


Poorly.

I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.


Spectre powers, activate!


Agent Washingtub is the best Freelancer.

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Mattock + quick clicking = amazing.

Just sayin'.

#62092
BleedingUranium

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie


Poorly.

I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.


Spectre powers, activate!


Agent Washingtub is the best Freelancer.


And, oh look, more fade to white = non-reality

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CoolioThane wrote...

Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice

It was probably added in whichever version of the film you watched. Lucas loves to fiddle while the franchise burns.

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CoolioThane

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RavenEyry wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice

It was probably added in whichever version of the film you watched. Lucas loves to fiddle while the franchise burns.


We made sure it was the Original Theatrical Release! I just don't think I've seen it for 8 years :P

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just watching smudboys bookends of destruction 5.... class video. he may moan but the sheer amount of things he picks apart makes it worth while..........just seen the bit where shep gets nuked by harbie and wakes up in lala land. shep ends up in the blood filled room. what is the point of this room? class.

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Andromidius wrote...

Mattock + quick clicking = amazing.

Just sayin'.


You know what's also fun?  Getting accused of cheating for having a gaming mouse or keyboard that can spam clicks.

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CoolioThane

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Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Mattock + quick clicking = amazing.

Just sayin'.


You know what's also fun?  Getting accused of cheating for having a gaming mouse or keyboard that can spam clicks.


In a coop game? Some people need to get a life

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Since the civil war has come to an end - hopefully for a long time - I would like to discuss the planet issue:

Restrider wrote...
I have one remark to make:
It is one common interpretation amongst ITers to assume that the slideshows are part of the hallucination - something like Shepard's mind justifying his decision and showing him a future with hope.
Furthermore it is considered that the Normandy crash-landing on that garden world is also part of this hallucination, to give him closure regarding his closest friends and LI (I'd like to mention otter's interpretation that the garden world and the sinister forest of Shepard's dreams are antagonizing scenery - a shame that his posts were utterly ignored during the troll-fest and internal bickering).

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Now, it is obvious that the garden world - where all stargazer scenes take place - have a familiar sky setting. I think it is save to assume that these planets are indeed identical.

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If we assume that the first time this planet is shown to us is during a hallucinatory state, then the second time we see this planet - namely the stargazer scene - should be also part of a hallucination. If we assume this, what meaning does the stargazer scene actually have for the real world? None...?

Again, this is my personal interpretation.


To add:
Since we can assume that the first encounter of this planet is a hallucination, the second might as well be one.
The breath scene would then just be Shepard breaking out of the hallucination for a moment and dipping back into a hallucinatory state (not necessarily still indoctrination induced, but rather a form of him to recover from it).
I would also like to note that this sky setting resembles the sky setting of Aeia, the planet of Jacob's LM. Though this just may be a coincidence here.
IF we assume that the stargazer scene is not real for all endings including refuse - can we still discount refuse as a total failure? I can see that it has not the same merits as Destroy due to the lack of the breath scene, but as all endings, it also has a message of hope.

Edit: My point is that Refuse is usally discarded with the fact that the stargazers are alien and talk about our cycle's failure that gave them the possibility to stop the Reapers. But if it's all unreal, we know nothing - not even if the Reapers were beaten at all...

Modifié par Restrider, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:32 .


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Restrider wrote...

Since the civil war has come to an end - hopefully for a long time - I would like to discuss the planet issue:

Restrider wrote...
I have one remark to make:
It is one common interpretation amongst ITers to assume that the slideshows are part of the hallucination - something like Shepard's mind justifying his decision and showing him a future with hope.
Furthermore it is considered that the Normandy crash-landing on that garden world is also part of this hallucination, to give him closure regarding his closest friends and LI (I'd like to mention otter's interpretation that the garden world and the sinister forest of Shepard's dreams are antagonizing scenery - a shame that his posts were utterly ignored during the troll-fest and internal bickering).



Now, it is obvious that the garden world - where all stargazer scenes take place - have a familiar sky setting. I think it is save to assume that these planets are indeed identical.



If we assume that the first time this planet is shown to us is during a hallucinatory state, then the second time we see this planet - namely the stargazer scene - should be also part of a hallucination. If we assume this, what meaning does the stargazer scene actually have for the real world? None...?

Again, this is my personal interpretation.


To add:
Since we can assume that the first encounter of this planet is a hallucination, the second might as well be one.
The breath scene would then just be Shepard breaking out of the hallucination for a moment and dipping back into a hallucinatory state (not necessarily still indoctrination induced, but rather a form of him to recover from it).
I would also like to note that this sky setting resembles the sky setting of Aeia, the planet of Jacob's LM. Though this just may be a coincidence here.
IF we assume that the stargazer scene is not real for all endings including refuse - can we still discount refuse as a total failure? I can see that it has not the same merits as Destroy due to the lack of the breath scene, but as all endings, it also has a message of hope.



The planet being similar to Aeia makes sense, as a ship crashed there, more memories. While this does makes sense, and there's nothing wrong with it, I'm sticking with the Stargazer scene being outside the narrative, I think the story makes more sense like that.

I'm gonna go play some MP, see you all later Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:32 .


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Hello everyone. Had an eventfull day. What's new? When does the VGA start?