Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
#62076
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:36
#62077
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:43
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
#62078
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:45
Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
Even after googling, only one of those.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:45 .
#62079
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:45
he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
#62080
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:46
Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
I got that he's an arms dealer to story-based characters, but I'm not sure what gidjits are, or how you repair them.
#62081
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:46
I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie
Poorly.
Modifié par paxxton, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:47 .
#62082
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:48
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
Ahh. Thanks. Must've missed that post.
#62083
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:48
#62084
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:48
paxxton wrote...
I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie
Poorly.
I'd watch "Archangel: Batman's a *****."
#62085
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:49
I don't know if he posted it, but that's how it sounded to me so i was answering your question because to me it made sense..Rifneno wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
he was online because the power at his place of employment was out, but now that its back he has to work.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Dammit, powers back. I have sprockets to sell and gidjits to repair. See ya later
Did that make sense to anyone else?
Ahh. Thanks. Must've missed that post.
Edit: I was right.
Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 décembre 2012 - 08:50 .
#62086
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:50
paxxton wrote...
I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie
Poorly.
Spectre powers, activate!
#62087
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:52
But I'll stick to my old avatar...Restrider wrote...
I really like Tela Vasir...
Modifié par Restrider, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:19 .
#62088
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:52
Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice
#62089
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:52
Restrider wrote...
I really like Tela Vasir...
Apparently!
#62090
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:53
BleedingUranium wrote...
paxxton wrote...
I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie
Poorly.
Spectre powers, activate!
Agent Washingtub is the best Freelancer.
#62091
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:53
Just sayin'.
#62092
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:55
byne wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
paxxton wrote...
I hope they won't make a superhero-type movie.Rifneno wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I wonder how they will handle Biotics in the movie
Poorly.
Spectre powers, activate!
Agent Washingtub is the best Freelancer.
And, oh look, more fade to white = non-reality
#62093
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:55
It was probably added in whichever version of the film you watched. Lucas loves to fiddle while the franchise burns.CoolioThane wrote...
Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice
#62094
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:56
RavenEyry wrote...
It was probably added in whichever version of the film you watched. Lucas loves to fiddle while the franchise burns.CoolioThane wrote...
Just watched Return of the Jedi at a friends...I cannot ever remember seeing the scene with the torture droid in Jabba's palace before. Nice
We made sure it was the Original Theatrical Release! I just don't think I've seen it for 8 years
#62095
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 08:58
#62096
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 09:06
Andromidius wrote...
Mattock + quick clicking = amazing.
Just sayin'.
You know what's also fun? Getting accused of cheating for having a gaming mouse or keyboard that can spam clicks.
#62097
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 09:18
Rifneno wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Mattock + quick clicking = amazing.
Just sayin'.
You know what's also fun? Getting accused of cheating for having a gaming mouse or keyboard that can spam clicks.
In a coop game? Some people need to get a life
#62098
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 09:28
Restrider wrote...
I have one remark to make:
It is one common interpretation amongst ITers to assume that the slideshows are part of the hallucination - something like Shepard's mind justifying his decision and showing him a future with hope.
Furthermore it is considered that the Normandy crash-landing on that garden world is also part of this hallucination, to give him closure regarding his closest friends and LI (I'd like to mention otter's interpretation that the garden world and the sinister forest of Shepard's dreams are antagonizing scenery - a shame that his posts were utterly ignored during the troll-fest and internal bickering).
Now, it is obvious that the garden world - where all stargazer scenes take place - have a familiar sky setting. I think it is save to assume that these planets are indeed identical.
If we assume that the first time this planet is shown to us is during a hallucinatory state, then the second time we see this planet - namely the stargazer scene - should be also part of a hallucination. If we assume this, what meaning does the stargazer scene actually have for the real world? None...?
Again, this is my personal interpretation.
To add:
Since we can assume that the first encounter of this planet is a hallucination, the second might as well be one.
The breath scene would then just be Shepard breaking out of the hallucination for a moment and dipping back into a hallucinatory state (not necessarily still indoctrination induced, but rather a form of him to recover from it).
I would also like to note that this sky setting resembles the sky setting of Aeia, the planet of Jacob's LM. Though this just may be a coincidence here.
IF we assume that the stargazer scene is not real for all endings including refuse - can we still discount refuse as a total failure? I can see that it has not the same merits as Destroy due to the lack of the breath scene, but as all endings, it also has a message of hope.
Edit: My point is that Refuse is usally discarded with the fact that the stargazers are alien and talk about our cycle's failure that gave them the possibility to stop the Reapers. But if it's all unreal, we know nothing - not even if the Reapers were beaten at all...
Modifié par Restrider, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:32 .
#62099
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 09:31
Restrider wrote...
Since the civil war has come to an end - hopefully for a long time - I would like to discuss the planet issue:Restrider wrote...
I have one remark to make:
It is one common interpretation amongst ITers to assume that the slideshows are part of the hallucination - something like Shepard's mind justifying his decision and showing him a future with hope.
Furthermore it is considered that the Normandy crash-landing on that garden world is also part of this hallucination, to give him closure regarding his closest friends and LI (I'd like to mention otter's interpretation that the garden world and the sinister forest of Shepard's dreams are antagonizing scenery - a shame that his posts were utterly ignored during the troll-fest and internal bickering).
Now, it is obvious that the garden world - where all stargazer scenes take place - have a familiar sky setting. I think it is save to assume that these planets are indeed identical.
If we assume that the first time this planet is shown to us is during a hallucinatory state, then the second time we see this planet - namely the stargazer scene - should be also part of a hallucination. If we assume this, what meaning does the stargazer scene actually have for the real world? None...?
Again, this is my personal interpretation.
To add:
Since we can assume that the first encounter of this planet is a hallucination, the second might as well be one.
The breath scene would then just be Shepard breaking out of the hallucination for a moment and dipping back into a hallucinatory state (not necessarily still indoctrination induced, but rather a form of him to recover from it).
I would also like to note that this sky setting resembles the sky setting of Aeia, the planet of Jacob's LM. Though this just may be a coincidence here.
IF we assume that the stargazer scene is not real for all endings including refuse - can we still discount refuse as a total failure? I can see that it has not the same merits as Destroy due to the lack of the breath scene, but as all endings, it also has a message of hope.
The planet being similar to Aeia makes sense, as a ship crashed there, more memories. While this does makes sense, and there's nothing wrong with it, I'm sticking with the Stargazer scene being outside the narrative, I think the story makes more sense like that.
I'm gonna go play some MP, see you all later
Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 décembre 2012 - 09:32 .
#62100
Posté 07 décembre 2012 - 09:34




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