RussianZombeh wrote...
I live in the UK, so I don't know what the Spike channel is.401 Kill wrote...
They are on T.V: on the spike channel. I'm not sure about the website though.RussianZombeh wrote...
Because I'm being ignored.RussianZombeh wrote...
Where can I watch the Spike VGAs? On the website?
I don't know and I can't miss them! D:
I thought it'd be online :/
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't think the emptiness on the Citadel means anything... probably just memory management.
That said, good catch on the announcement! I had never heard that before... another sneakily hidden reference to indoctrination, really cool.
Good job Dem, keep spotting them!
However, your comments on the Citadel emptiness made me think. You know, when you're outside Purgatory, and you look down, you see these unfinished, untextured and motionless character models?
Everybody says that it's an obvious illustration of Bioware not having time to polish the game.
But thinking about it, it doesn't make sense. There's 'unfinished' character models there of which there are finished models in the game. There's even a finished Elcor outside of Purgatory at some point, as if they want to remind you of that fact.
I mean, it's not like they sculpt every models you see from scratch. It would have taken them just as much effort to place the finished models there. Making them animate shouldn't take time at all either, there are default animations for all the models.
Another thing that's weird is that it's only the characters standing in the light that are unfinished and motionless. The shadows around them, on all sides, are populated with an unusual amount of people, all completely animated and normal looking.
It's almost as if they're intentionally drawing our attention to them, as if Bioware wants us to notice them.
Then when you think about James' line, the one about it not being right and all an illusion...
I'm not saying the entire citadel or the entire game is an illusion, don't get me wrong, it's probably symbolic, if it is indeed intentional.
I don't have a screenshot, sorry.
Thoughts?
holy ****biscuits batmanRifneno wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't think the emptiness on the Citadel means anything... probably just memory management.
That said, good catch on the announcement! I had never heard that before... another sneakily hidden reference to indoctrination, really cool.
Good job Dem, keep spotting them!
However, your comments on the Citadel emptiness made me think. You know, when you're outside Purgatory, and you look down, you see these unfinished, untextured and motionless character models?
Everybody says that it's an obvious illustration of Bioware not having time to polish the game.
But thinking about it, it doesn't make sense. There's 'unfinished' character models there of which there are finished models in the game. There's even a finished Elcor outside of Purgatory at some point, as if they want to remind you of that fact.
I mean, it's not like they sculpt every models you see from scratch. It would have taken them just as much effort to place the finished models there. Making them animate shouldn't take time at all either, there are default animations for all the models.
Another thing that's weird is that it's only the characters standing in the light that are unfinished and motionless. The shadows around them, on all sides, are populated with an unusual amount of people, all completely animated and normal looking.
It's almost as if they're intentionally drawing our attention to them, as if Bioware wants us to notice them.
Then when you think about James' line, the one about it not being right and all an illusion...
I'm not saying the entire citadel or the entire game is an illusion, don't get me wrong, it's probably symbolic, if it is indeed intentional.
I don't have a screenshot, sorry.
Thoughts?
Shepard: Do you have any information on Purgatory?
Avina: The term "purgatory" is present in many civilizations, with varying associated uses and meanings.
Shepard: No, the bar called Purgatory.
Avina: The Citadel Tourist and Visitor Board has no establishment by that name on its list of approved nightlife entertainment facilities.
RussianZombeh wrote...
Turns out Spike TV is not in the UK.
How am I supposed to watch it? Ridiculous.
Rifneno wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't think the emptiness on the Citadel means anything... probably just memory management.
That said, good catch on the announcement! I had never heard that before... another sneakily hidden reference to indoctrination, really cool.
Good job Dem, keep spotting them!
However, your comments on the Citadel emptiness made me think. You know, when you're outside Purgatory, and you look down, you see these unfinished, untextured and motionless character models?
Everybody says that it's an obvious illustration of Bioware not having time to polish the game.
But thinking about it, it doesn't make sense. There's 'unfinished' character models there of which there are finished models in the game. There's even a finished Elcor outside of Purgatory at some point, as if they want to remind you of that fact.
I mean, it's not like they sculpt every models you see from scratch. It would have taken them just as much effort to place the finished models there. Making them animate shouldn't take time at all either, there are default animations for all the models.
Another thing that's weird is that it's only the characters standing in the light that are unfinished and motionless. The shadows around them, on all sides, are populated with an unusual amount of people, all completely animated and normal looking.
It's almost as if they're intentionally drawing our attention to them, as if Bioware wants us to notice them.
Then when you think about James' line, the one about it not being right and all an illusion...
I'm not saying the entire citadel or the entire game is an illusion, don't get me wrong, it's probably symbolic, if it is indeed intentional.
I don't have a screenshot, sorry.
Thoughts?
Shepard: Do you have any information on Purgatory?
Avina: The term "purgatory" is present in many civilizations, with varying associated uses and meanings.
Shepard: No, the bar called Purgatory.
Avina: The Citadel Tourist and Visitor Board has no establishment by that name on its list of approved nightlife entertainment facilities.
Rifneno wrote...
DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I don't think the emptiness on the Citadel means anything... probably just memory management.
That said, good catch on the announcement! I had never heard that before... another sneakily hidden reference to indoctrination, really cool.
Good job Dem, keep spotting them!
However, your comments on the Citadel emptiness made me think. You know, when you're outside Purgatory, and you look down, you see these unfinished, untextured and motionless character models?
Everybody says that it's an obvious illustration of Bioware not having time to polish the game.
But thinking about it, it doesn't make sense. There's 'unfinished' character models there of which there are finished models in the game. There's even a finished Elcor outside of Purgatory at some point, as if they want to remind you of that fact.
I mean, it's not like they sculpt every models you see from scratch. It would have taken them just as much effort to place the finished models there. Making them animate shouldn't take time at all either, there are default animations for all the models.
Another thing that's weird is that it's only the characters standing in the light that are unfinished and motionless. The shadows around them, on all sides, are populated with an unusual amount of people, all completely animated and normal looking.
It's almost as if they're intentionally drawing our attention to them, as if Bioware wants us to notice them.
Then when you think about James' line, the one about it not being right and all an illusion...
I'm not saying the entire citadel or the entire game is an illusion, don't get me wrong, it's probably symbolic, if it is indeed intentional.
I don't have a screenshot, sorry.
Thoughts?
Shepard: Do you have any information on Purgatory?
Avina: The term "purgatory" is present in many civilizations, with varying associated uses and meanings.
Shepard: No, the bar called Purgatory.
Avina: The Citadel Tourist and Visitor Board has no establishment by that name on its list of approved nightlife entertainment facilities.
what if the citadel/sovereign has taken all these people and pulped them, then replaced them with dodgy models to fool shep?401 Kill wrote...
Yes: Something is definitely up with the Citidel. If only we could find more about the Citidel....
The Ace Combat franchise has some of the best soundtracks. Here's one of my personal favorites:Rifneno wrote...
Speaking of music, if/when they do a reveal and we get the rest of the war, they need something epic for the final battle music. Example. Full orchestra, Latin, the works.
Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:48 .
Modifié par dorktainian, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:45 .
dorktainian wrote...
what if the citadel/sovereign has taken all these people and pulped them, then replaced them with dodgy models to fool shep?
'd me. Great minds think alike.
Modifié par Eryri, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:54 .
At the moment you opt out and the game is saved every squadmember is marked as dead. It is only logical to assume this is because this cycle is indeed doomed. One of the reasons the scenes after that can be assumed to be real.Restrider wrote...
Since the civil war has come to an end - hopefully for a long time - I would like to discuss the planet issue:Restrider wrote...
I have one remark to make:
It is one common interpretation amongst ITers to assume that the slideshows are part of the hallucination - something like Shepard's mind justifying his decision and showing him a future with hope.
Furthermore it is considered that the Normandy crash-landing on that garden world is also part of this hallucination, to give him closure regarding his closest friends and LI (I'd like to mention otter's interpretation that the garden world and the sinister forest of Shepard's dreams are antagonizing scenery - a shame that his posts were utterly ignored during the troll-fest and internal bickering).
Now, it is obvious that the garden world - where all stargazer scenes take place - have a familiar sky setting. I think it is save to assume that these planets are indeed identical.
If we assume that the first time this planet is shown to us is during a hallucinatory state, then the second time we see this planet - namely the stargazer scene - should be also part of a hallucination. If we assume this, what meaning does the stargazer scene actually have for the real world? None...?
Again, this is my personal interpretation.
To add:
Since we can assume that the first encounter of this planet is a hallucination, the second might as well be one.
The breath scene would then just be Shepard breaking out of the hallucination for a moment and dipping back into a hallucinatory state (not necessarily still indoctrination induced, but rather a form of him to recover from it).
I would also like to note that this sky setting resembles the sky setting of Aeia, the planet of Jacob's LM. Though this just may be a coincidence here.
IF we assume that the stargazer scene is not real for all endings including refuse - can we still discount refuse as a total failure? I can see that it has not the same merits as Destroy due to the lack of the breath scene, but as all endings, it also has a message of hope.
Edit: My point is that Refuse is usally discarded with the fact that the stargazers are alien and talk about our cycle's failure that gave them the possibility to stop the Reapers. But if it's all unreal, we know nothing - not even if the Reapers were beaten at all...
Modifié par dorktainian, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:52 .
Lokanaiya wrote...
One last note about the Citadel: there are ads in the Presidium that use pictures found on the Lazarus Project station
dorktainian wrote...
oh and is this a good time to bring into play the 2d sprites scattered all over the game?
ty. People can't just leave it when unprovoked.demersel wrote...
I can see, that, thanks to Mehumi's idiocy
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:55 .
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