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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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demersel wrote...

To sleep or not to sleep and wait for VGA? that is the question.

I'm sure whatever they show will go up and be talked about, so you can do either.

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Jennifer Hale @jhaletweets

on our way to Spike VGA! @missalihillis rockin' Liara Blue dress pic.twitter.com/rMzSVUSl

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I've been stalking this thread for a few days and the Purgatory thing made laugh. I found this on the Embassies, the people on the bottom is still, but there's a turian moving among them which made laugh again xD
If the new DLC has something to do with the Citadel let's not hope it's a fix for all these weird stuffs
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thats it for me...bed.....catch up in the morning.

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demersel wrote...

 Now, let's adress the notion, that bioware didn't have enough time or resources to polish the details.
That's horse-****. 
Exibits A,B,C,D etc - there is plenty of details in that add alone - note the different distortion depending on the angle you;re looking at it.
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And you can see on every sign here that is says
GHIJKL
TUVWX

demersel wrote...

Why is this important, you might ask? why it is. Omega DLC is full of broken or working add message boards, public announcment screens and just some random monitors - they are all highjacked by cerberus - and they all work completely different in that angle distortion thing. Screenshots are incoming. 

in the meanttime - look at Jack's poster some more - so it sinks in. (it also distorts differently depending on the angle)
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50% of the Omega ads had bugs for the alien font, as has about every other alien font that is generated on the fly in ME3.
Also the Jack sign says:
UV
EFGHIJ

if you are talking about how the ads have an additional overlay that makes it look like aliasing didn't that effect exist since ME1? In any case there is nothing special about these ads.

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You may be right, Meg.

There seems to be more distance between the Normandy and the window in the D26 shot.

I need to get better comparison shots next time I'm playing, in order to be sure.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...

To sleep or not to sleep and wait for VGA? that is the question.

I'm sure whatever they show will go up and be talked about, so you can do either.


I'm interested to see anything ME related, but there's no way I could sit through the whole hellish entirety of that show. 

Previous "lowlights" included the host receiving a live, on-stage teabagging. I remember the camera cutting to Tricia Helfer, who was forced to give a brittle "oh isn't this all jolly good fun" smile to appear a good sport. Utterly cringe inducing.

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Right, off to play some MP for now. =)

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RussianZombeh wrote...

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Will the Spike VGA GOTY announcement be at the end of the show? I bloody hope not as that's 6am where I am.

The program starts in 3 hours, and is 2 hours long.

Nope, according to Spike's website it finishes at 1am EST, which is 6am GMT.

EDIT: Unless it finishes at 11pm EST and is then repeated?


This is most probably the case. The VGA's usually go for 2 hours iirc.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Wow, that's really cool. I agree with you too about keeping it in a fictional world. While Assault Horizon was fun, I loved Ace Combat 6 so much more( I own a 360) and loved playing the ones before that on my friend's PS2. Hopefully they go back to that world soon. Also, did you hear that they may be doing an Ace Combat HD Collection?
PS: You quoted the post before I put up my personal favorite:


HD collection? I'd give a kidney for that. I actually bought the 360 just for AC6. Totally worth it, too. Would love to see an HD remake/port of the older ones... I especially loved 5, as much as the general AC community hated the wingmen. I don't know why they can't grasp that the reason the characters hate the war is because it's not a video game to them. But then they loved that terrorist bastard Pixie. Go figure.

Ahh, the Chandelier. Epic with foreboding Latin, like every AC final battle theme. My personal favorite is Agnus Dei, but The Unsung War is definitely second. All hail the Razgriz!

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Eryri wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...

To sleep or not to sleep and wait for VGA? that is the question.

I'm sure whatever they show will go up and be talked about, so you can do either.


I'm interested to see anything ME related, but there's no way I could sit through the whole hellish entirety of that show. 

Previous "lowlights" included the host receiving a live, on-stage teabagging. I remember the camera cutting to Tricia Helfer, who was forced to give a brittle "oh isn't this all jolly good fun" smile to appear a good sport. Utterly cringe inducing.

I agree, don't like VGAs very much. I always DVR it and just fast foward to ee the reveals.

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Eryri wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

demersel wrote...

To sleep or not to sleep and wait for VGA? that is the question.

I'm sure whatever they show will go up and be talked about, so you can do either.


I'm interested to see anything ME related, but there's no way I could sit through the whole hellish entirety of that show. 

Previous "lowlights" included the host receiving a live, on-stage teabagging. I remember the camera cutting to Tricia Helfer, who was forced to give a brittle "oh isn't this all jolly good fun" smile to appear a good sport. Utterly cringe inducing.


What about that guy who was criticizing something Spike TV did for the nominees, then they let him come to the show and he's all "Yeah! I'm on TV ****es! Spike TV is awesome!" that pissed me off to no end. What a fake.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The only problem I see with the memorial wall theory is that both Ashley and Cortez have scenes there. They even talk about it with Shepard on the Normandy.


Hey, I'm not saying that there is no problems with that - in fact i'm saying that we have a big ****ing problem with that wall - you can check for yourself - it is simply not there. That is a problem so big - that the whole citadel might not be real because of it. 


I think that if any of these oddities mean anything - it's that Shep's perception is being affected by indoctrination, not something radical like the Citadel not being real. Or maybe even more likely - the Citadel having these unreal oddities is foreshadowing of the ending being an illusion, or perhaps even both: a sign of indoctrination, and foreshadowing.

Did you see the D24/D26 thing I posted at the bottom of the previous page? It's really odd, because why would they want to pre-render that scene? It's almost like it was included to draw your attention to it.


There may be a logical reason for it.  Maybe its like a train station (here in the UK at least) where platform numbers change depending on the side and how far down it is.  My local station (Temple Meads, Bristol, if you're wondering) has about 16 'platforms', though only 5 tracks running through it.  I think.

Modifié par Andromidius, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:24 .


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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

It's a shot from another docking bay. D24 should be in the background.


How do you know? Did you already investigate that cutscene? If that's the case, then sorry, I missed it.

I've walked all around the place, didn't see it at all. There was a sign saying D26, but it was on the wall, over the doorway at the end of the hall. Why would they shoot that frame from the docking bay next to it, which you can't even access?

And if so, how do you explain the angle? It seems impossible to me.

It's obviously a shot from D26 to showcase the Normandy.

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nebulosa wrote...

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Who else sees two times the same woman sporting her Cerberus cosplay in that screen?
The more screens I see the more it looks like not enough time for me.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .


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Rifneno wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Wow, that's really cool. I agree with you too about keeping it in a fictional world. While Assault Horizon was fun, I loved Ace Combat 6 so much more( I own a 360) and loved playing the ones before that on my friend's PS2. Hopefully they go back to that world soon. Also, did you hear that they may be doing an Ace Combat HD Collection?
PS: You quoted the post before I put up my personal favorite:


HD collection? I'd give a kidney for that. I actually bought the 360 just for AC6. Totally worth it, too. Would love to see an HD remake/port of the older ones... I especially loved 5, as much as the general AC community hated the wingmen. I don't know why they can't grasp that the reason the characters hate the war is because it's not a video game to them. But then they loved that terrorist bastard Pixie. Go figure.

Ahh, the Chandelier. Epic with foreboding Latin, like every AC final battle theme. My personal favorite is Agnus Dei, but The Unsung War is definitely second. All hail the Razgriz!

It's still being discussed, but some higher-ups at the company seem enthuiastic of the idea so maybe with the next gen consoles they might release it. I hope they do, i would pre-order the highest edition and play it. Agnus Dei and The Unsung War are my 2nd and 3rd favorites with Chandelier being number 1. And yes, having latin underneath the music/other language adds immense epicness points to all the final themes.Posted Image

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:33 .


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IronSabbath88 wrote...

What about that guy who was criticizing something Spike TV did for the nominees, then they let him come to the show and he's all "Yeah! I'm on TV ****es! Spike TV is awesome!" that pissed me off to no end. What a fake.


That sounds awful. I've only seen bits on Youtube while looking for ME stuff, but the sheer, soul searing vulgarity of the little I saw put me right off. And we wonder why gaming is regarded as an immature hobby?

Modifié par Eryri, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .


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Eryri wrote...

That sounds awful. I've only seen bits on Youtube while looking for ME stuff, but the shee vulgarity of the little I saw put me right off. And we wonder why gaming is regarded as an immature hobby?


Google "God of War III aphrodite" for the saddest answer to that question.

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Behold, my fellow ITers and Non-Iters!

I have created a scheme to show different variations of the events at the endings. What is real and what is only a hallucination? Well, you can choose your most fitting scheme and vote for it in this poll.

RL stand for reality
VR for virtual reality (=hallucination/dream)
the block between RL and VR are distorted but still have effects on the real world.

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Please discuss your ideas in the comment section, and of course, in this thread.

Modifié par Restrider, 08 décembre 2012 - 10:45 .


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Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's still being discussed, but some higher-ups at the company seem enthuiastic of the idea so maybe with the next gen consoles they might release it. I hope they do, i would pre-order the highest edition and play it. Agnus Dei and The Unsung War are my 2nd and 3rd favorites with Chandelier being number 1. And yes, having latin underneath the music/other language adds immense epicness points to all the final themes.Posted Image


Heh.  Yeah, I remember the first one I heard like that, One Winged Angel in Final Fantasy VII.  Probably the first one for a lot of people.  To go from the MIDI style crap of the SNES/Gensis era to that was just incredible.  I was in complete disbelief when I first heard the chanting.

Old news I'm sure, but I just heard they're going to re-release ACAH for PC.  It'll be interesting to see how it does.  Here's hoping it'll be moddable.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490


:blink:  Will never understand women and shoes...  Especially those ones.

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Rifneno wrote...

Eryri wrote...

That sounds awful. I've only seen bits on Youtube while looking for ME stuff, but the shee vulgarity of the little I saw put me right off. And we wonder why gaming is regarded as an immature hobby?


Google "God of War III aphrodite" for the saddest answer to that question.


Oh Lordy. It's like she's wearing some sort of "anti-bra". It seems more sleazy than if she was just naked. It's a good job she's an immortal Godess, if she were human they'd be down by her knees in a few years.

Modifié par Eryri, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:41 .


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Rifneno wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

It's still being discussed, but some higher-ups at the company seem enthuiastic of the idea so maybe with the next gen consoles they might release it. I hope they do, i would pre-order the highest edition and play it. Agnus Dei and The Unsung War are my 2nd and 3rd favorites with Chandelier being number 1. And yes, having latin underneath the music/other language adds immense epicness points to all the final themes.Posted Image


Heh.  Yeah, I remember the first one I heard like that, One Winged Angel in Final Fantasy VII.  Probably the first one for a lot of people.  To go from the MIDI style crap of the SNES/Gensis era to that was just incredible.  I was in complete disbelief when I first heard the chanting.

Old news I'm sure, but I just heard they're going to re-release ACAH for PC.  It'll be interesting to see how it does.  Here's hoping it'll be moddable.

One of the best improvements in gaming history.

To relate this to Mass Effect: The superweapon that took down the Derelict Reaper, I imagined it looking like the Chandelier.

Edit : Top. Selim is watching this page so be nice everyone.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 décembre 2012 - 11:42 .


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Restrider wrote...

Behold, my fellow ITers and Non-Iters!

I have created a scheme to show different variations of the events at the endings. What is real and what is only a hallucination? Well, you can choose your most fitting scheme and vote for it in this poll.

RL stand for reality
VR for virtual reality (=hallucination/dream)
the block between RL and VR are distorted but still have effects on the real world.


Posted Image

Please discuss your ideas in the comment section, and of course, in this thread.

You missed the obvious "everything is real"