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Andromidius

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FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

You missed the obvious "everything is real"


I did not miss it. Since it is a specific IT poll, including the literal interpretation would just leave us - in a worst case scenario - with 50% votes for the literal interpretation.
I am not trying to determine who thinks the game ends literal, but rather to get more detailed data on those who think it ends not literal.
Obviously, you haven't put much thought in your answer...
Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

Modifié par Restrider, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:09 .


#62253
MegumiAzusa

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paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490


:blink:  Will never understand women and shoes...  Especially those ones.


I’m a girl and I don’t get how women can wear shoes like that either...


Its called 'starved for attention' disorder.

Mind you, I don't understand women's obsession with clothes at all.  One of my friends had several hundred pairs of shoes.  I have no idea how she's even managed to wear any of them more then once.

Posted Image shocking.

Also, don't those shoes make women put increased pressure on their toes and hence develop physiological disorders?

That's why you don't wear them for hours.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

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Voted H for maximized VR. While Chronos station isn't as strange as end, it is there when it begins.

Third nightmare never ended.


What he said.  Cronos' oddities aren't as stark as London/Citadel, but when you look at them together they paint quite a picture.

Wait, what oddities do Chronos Station have?


Others will know much better than I, but there's a few odd things, like sections of the station that are open to space, but have no visible force-field keeping the air in. 

There's also Shepards existential angst that he's just a sophisticated VI.

Modifié par Eryri, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:08 .


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Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.

i have two pairs of shows. One for church and one for everything else.

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Hanako Ikezawa

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Humakt83 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Wait, what oddities do Chronos Station have?


Striking color themes on level design, smiley face, sudden capture of the Citadel and moving it to the Earth, Kai Leng is shown to live and finally, the hole to the space the fighter caused that for some reason does not vacuum.

Can you go into more detail please? I've never noticed most of these, at least I think I haven't, so would appreciate carification. 

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Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490


:blink:  Will never understand women and shoes...  Especially those ones.


I’m a girl and I don’t get how women can wear shoes like that either...


Its called 'starved for attention' disorder.

Mind you, I don't understand women's obsession with clothes at all.  One of my friends had several hundred pairs of shoes.  I have no idea how she's even managed to wear any of them more then once.


It's funny, people don't understand the universe either but I don't hear any guy constantly complaining (whether for comedy reasons or not) about that.
"You know Mike, I'll never understand this damn universe. Always expanding faster and faster...why can't it just be happy the way it is?"

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:10 .


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MegumiAzusa

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Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

You missed the obvious "everything is real"


I did not miss it. Since it is a specific IT poll, including the literal interpretation would just leave us - in a worst case scenario - with 50% votes for the literal interpretation.
I am not trying to determine who thinks the game ends literal, but rather to get more detailed data on those who think it ends not literal.
Obviously, you haven't put much thought in your answer...

"my fellow ITers and Non-Iters!"

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Andromidius wrote...

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Andromidus, Bristol...Only been once and it was..nice...granted it was to see a football match. If anyone's wondering the mighty Brighton beat Bristol City 1-0 ;) Haha


You mean 'its a backwards ****hole of a city', right?

Yes, yes it is.


Yes it was. I was frightened for my life at some points! I wasn't sure how you felt and didn't want to insult where you lived :P Living in Cornwall for uni has truly shown me that first world poverty exists 

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Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.


You realize that only owning 4-5 pairs is seen as sacrilege by most women :P

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Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.


Sandals (now work shoes); slippers (for easy visit to the sauna), shoes for suit, winter boots (winter gear is necessary around here) and trainers (which I actually use the most).

Five pairs for practical reasons.

Modifié par Humakt83, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:11 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490


:blink:  Will never understand women and shoes...  Especially those ones.


I’m a girl and I don’t get how women can wear shoes like that either...


Its called 'starved for attention' disorder.

Mind you, I don't understand women's obsession with clothes at all.  One of my friends had several hundred pairs of shoes.  I have no idea how she's even managed to wear any of them more then once.

Posted Image shocking.

Also, don't those shoes make women put increased pressure on their toes and hence develop physiological disorders?

That's why you don't wear them for hours.

So why do you decide to wear them at all, deliberately putting your health and life at risk? I imagine you well thousands of times off the stairs in such shoes. lol

#62263
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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.

i have two pairs of shows. One for church and one for everything else.


I have one pair of black shoes for fancy parties, a pair of astro turf shoes for football, a pair of football boots and a pair of trainers I've had for 4 years that have decided soles aren't important anymore :pinched:

#62264
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

You missed the obvious "everything is real"


I did not miss it. Since it is a specific IT poll, including the literal interpretation would just leave us - in a worst case scenario - with 50% votes for the literal interpretation.
I am not trying to determine who thinks the game ends literal, but rather to get more detailed data on those who think it ends not literal.
Obviously, you haven't put much thought in your answer...

"my fellow ITers and Non-Iters!"

Point taken. Still, there is the None-of-the-above option.
And with Non-ITers I meant people who think of something like WKN or similar. Again, facing purely literal interpretation with the rest would just end in a "OMFG!! IT SUUX BAD WRITING"-fest. I have had my fair share of those in polls I have made and I have learned my leston how to make them, to avoid falsified or useless poll results.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...


That's why you don't wear them for hours.


And get the man to carry them home for you...

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Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.

#62267
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FFZero wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...
I’ve got to be the un-girliest girl you could meet though, I think I only own 4 or 5 pairs of shoes :P


Too many.  I only own one pair of 'shoes' - an old pair of army boots.  Perfectly suitable footware.


You realize that only owning 4-5 pairs is seen as sacrilege by most women :P


If you're going to break one rule, may as well go all the way...

#62268
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.


Christ it doesn't matter. Why get so ****y over this tiny thing which, as he said, is a poll for IT people?

#62269
MegumiAzusa

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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Not bad :D
https://twitter.com/...192324554047490


:blink:  Will never understand women and shoes...  Especially those ones.


I’m a girl and I don’t get how women can wear shoes like that either...


Its called 'starved for attention' disorder.

Mind you, I don't understand women's obsession with clothes at all.  One of my friends had several hundred pairs of shoes.  I have no idea how she's even managed to wear any of them more then once.

Posted Image shocking.

Also, don't those shoes make women put increased pressure on their toes and hence develop physiological disorders?

That's why you don't wear them for hours.

So why do you decide to wear them at all, deliberately putting your health and life at risk? I imagine you well thousands of times off the stairs in such shoes. lol

Don't think it's a big deal if you don't wear them 24/7.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.

That's correct. Since it is not the porpuse of this poll to show how many people think the endings are literal or not. There have been plenty of other polls for that...
If you do not find an adequate answer, there is still "none of the above".

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Harbinger could make an excellent bureaucrat.

"Relinquish your form to me."

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Humakt83 wrote...

Harbinger could make an excellent bureaucrat.

"Relinquish your form to me."

I would crap myself if any bureaucrat had a voice like Harbinger...

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MegumiAzusa

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btw on the context with the untextured stuff on the Citadel:
Posted Image

uh noes a hole in the Normandy.
Different error, same reason: not enough time.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Voted H for maximized VR. While Chronos station isn't as strange as end, it is there when it begins.

Third nightmare never ended.


What he said.  Cronos' oddities aren't as stark as London/Citadel, but when you look at them together they paint quite a picture.

Wait, what oddities do Chronos Station have?


Repost from a few weeks ago:

- There's those weird "corridors to nothing". Often a part of virtual reality setups where you're going into places you're not supposed to be.

- There's an unsecured hull breach in an area where Shepard has no helmet. The mass effect fields keeping air in are clearly visible at the landing site, but not at that hull breach. And that breach wasn't fixed with EC like the much less obvious one on Mars.

- One of the video logs has TIM mentioning that Paul Grayson failed to resist indoctrination because "he wasn't loyal to anything but his next dose of red sand." Shepard found out about Grayson on Sanctuary, but nothing more than he was a red sand addict who got Reaperized by Cerberus. So while the "not loyal to anything but his next fix" thing would make sense for Shepard to assume given the information he has, it's actually total bull. Grayson was clean for years before Cerberus abducted him, and he was fiercely loyal to both his daughter Gillian and Kahlee Sanders. Cerberus had to forcibly inject him with red sand in order to get him indoctrinated. Hardly "loyal to anything but his next fix."

- Likewise, the video logs also have a nice little story about EDI being that VI on Luna. lolwut. She was okay with telling Shepard that they used parts of Sovereign to make her, but she kept the Luna thing a secret? And how did Cerberus even recover the thing if it is true? Shepard literally blew up all the computers that it was in. You could see it "die". Even if they did recover it, it wouldn't be the same AI. New bluebox, new AI. That's why the geth VI is so different from Legion. The whole thing doesn't make any damned sense. But you know how it WOULD make sense? If it was a Reaper fairy tell to soften up Shepard to the idea of making peace with them. The Luna VI was a murderous technomonster with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. But look Shepard, now it's one of your closest and most trusted friends! So hey, maybe the other murderous technomonsters wouldn't be so bad in different circumstances too, right? A beautiful nudge toward control or synthesis.

- Speaking of blowing stuff up, look at the explosion from the Collector Base. The human Reaper was pretty much at ground zero. It was right next to the reactor. Now you're telling me pretty much the whole thing was recovered? Oh, and if you followed your heart and destroyed the base, then you get the Reaper heart. If you followed your brain and kept it, then you get the Reaper brain. That's not the most blatant allegory ever. Right. I can totally see that happening. <cough>

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

- Cronos is a bigass station, no? How big of a crew do you think it'd need? A couple dozen sounds way too low, right? Because that's exactly what TIM's real station runs on. Only two dozen of his most fanatical, zealous followers. That's all he trusts with it. And the real one isn't named Cronos. It has no name. It needs no name. All this is clearly laid out in Retribution. How did TIM's station go from a small, unnamed station with a crew of two dozen to that colossus with another damn mythology name?

#62275
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CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.


Christ it doesn't matter. Why get so ****y over this tiny thing which, as he said, is a poll for IT people?

Uhm you are the one who is ****y right now. I was merely explaining why I wrote that.