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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I have a question for you guys.
I'm thinking on working on a thread that shows the similarities between the Reapers and the Homunculi. It will go into great detail and explain their creation, powers, and purpose really efficiently and in great detail. My question is: Would you guys like to read it when I'm done?

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

- There's an unsecured hull breach in an area where Shepard has no helmet. The mass effect fields keeping air in are clearly visible at the landing site, but not at that hull breach. And that breach wasn't fixed with EC like the much less obvious one on Mars.

The one on the Normandy too as my screenshot just showed...
I call oversight/not enough time.

Rifneno wrote...

- One of the video logs has TIM mentioning that Paul Grayson failed to resist indoctrination because "he wasn't loyal to anything but his next dose of red sand." Shepard found out about Grayson on Sanctuary, but nothing more than he was a red sand addict who got Reaperized by Cerberus. So while the "not loyal to anything but his next fix" thing would make sense for Shepard to assume given the information he has, it's actually total bull. Grayson was clean for years before Cerberus abducted him, and he was fiercely loyal to both his daughter Gillian and Kahlee Sanders. Cerberus had to forcibly inject him with red sand in order to get him indoctrinated. Hardly "loyal to anything but his next fix."

TIM isn't the one who discusses failed operations with others...
Skewing reality is his dayjob.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:27 .

[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

- There's an unsecured hull breach in an area where Shepard has no helmet. The mass effect fields keeping air in are clearly visible at the landing site, but not at that hull breach. And that breach wasn't fixed with EC like the much less obvious one on Mars.

The one on the Normandy too as my screenshot just showed...
I call oversight/not enough time.

Where did you get the impression I a **** what you think?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Rifneno wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Voted H for maximized VR. While Chronos station isn't as strange as end, it is there when it begins.

Third nightmare never ended.

What he said.  Cronos' oddities aren't as stark as London/Citadel, but when you look at them together they paint quite a picture.

Wait, what oddities do Chronos Station have?

Repost from a few weeks ago:

- There's those weird "corridors to nothing". Often a part of virtual reality setups where you're going into places you're not supposed to be.

- There's an unsecured hull breach in an area where Shepard has no helmet. The mass effect fields keeping air in are clearly visible at the landing site, but not at that hull breach. And that breach wasn't fixed with EC like the much less obvious one on Mars.

- One of the video logs has TIM mentioning that Paul Grayson failed to resist indoctrination because "he wasn't loyal to anything but his next dose of red sand." Shepard found out about Grayson on Sanctuary, but nothing more than he was a red sand addict who got Reaperized by Cerberus. So while the "not loyal to anything but his next fix" thing would make sense for Shepard to assume given the information he has, it's actually total bull. Grayson was clean for years before Cerberus abducted him, and he was fiercely loyal to both his daughter Gillian and Kahlee Sanders. Cerberus had to forcibly inject him with red sand in order to get him indoctrinated. Hardly "loyal to anything but his next fix."

- Likewise, the video logs also have a nice little story about EDI being that VI on Luna. lolwut. She was okay with telling Shepard that they used parts of Sovereign to make her, but she kept the Luna thing a secret? And how did Cerberus even recover the thing if it is true? Shepard literally blew up all the computers that it was in. You could see it "die". Even if they did recover it, it wouldn't be the same AI. New bluebox, new AI. That's why the geth VI is so different from Legion. The whole thing doesn't make any damned sense. But you know how it WOULD make sense? If it was a Reaper fairy tell to soften up Shepard to the idea of making peace with them. The Luna VI was a murderous technomonster with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. But look Shepard, now it's one of your closest and most trusted friends! So hey, maybe the other murderous technomonsters wouldn't be so bad in different circumstances too, right? A beautiful nudge toward control or synthesis.

- Speaking of blowing stuff up, look at the explosion from the Collector Base. The human Reaper was pretty much at ground zero. It was right next to the reactor. Now you're telling me pretty much the whole thing was recovered? Oh, and if you followed your heart and destroyed the base, then you get the Reaper heart. If you followed your brain and kept it, then you get the Reaper brain. That's not the most blatant allegory ever. Right. I can totally see that happening. <cough>

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

- Cronos is a bigass station, no? How big of a crew do you think it'd need? A couple dozen sounds way too low, right? Because that's exactly what TIM's real station runs on. Only two dozen of his most fanatical, zealous followers. That's all he trusts with it. And the real one isn't named Cronos. It has no name. It needs no name. All this is clearly laid out in Retribution. How did TIM's station go from a small, unnamed station with a crew of two dozen to that colossus with another damn mythology name?

That's interesting. Thank you for going so indepth.

[CoolioThane]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.

Christ it doesn't matter. Why get so ****y over this tiny thing which, as he said, is a poll for IT people?

Uhm you are the one who is ****y right now. I was merely explaining why I wrote that.

Sorry for being tired of your bull**** attitude. He explained to you why he doesn't include the option you want but you continue to criticise. Why not just let anything go?  

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

- There's an unsecured hull breach in an area where Shepard has no helmet. The mass effect fields keeping air in are clearly visible at the landing site, but not at that hull breach. And that breach wasn't fixed with EC like the much less obvious one on Mars.

The one on the Normandy too as my screenshot just showed...
I call oversight/not enough time.

Where did you get the impression I a **** what you think?

Idk, maybe because I sometimes try to be indifferent and not let personal feelings cloud my judgment like many here believe I do. Though, obviously you don't even try.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:29 .

[Eryri]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have a question for you guys.
I'm thinking on working on a thread that shows the similarities between the Reapers and the Homunculi. It will go into great detail and explain their creation, powers, and purpose really efficiently and in great detail. My question is: Would you guys like to read it when I'm done?

Certainly would. Always like to be introduced to new stuff. I take it by Homunculi, you're refering to characters in an anime series? 

[MegumiAzusa]

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Edit: There is also the None of the above option...

"None of the above/show results" which means it doesn't count anyway.

Christ it doesn't matter. Why get so ****y over this tiny thing which, as he said, is a poll for IT people?

Uhm you are the one who is ****y right now. I was merely explaining why I wrote that.

Sorry for being tired of your bull**** attitude. He explained to you why he doesn't include the option you want but you continue to criticise. Why not just let anything go?

I could ask you the same for this very question.

[MaximizedAction]

Oh here we go again.

[umadcommander]

here we go again.......
dammit  again

Modifié par umadcommander, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:31 .

[Rifneno]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Oh here we go again.

umadcommander wrote...

here we go again.......

Jinx!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Eryri wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have a question for you guys.
I'm thinking on working on a thread that shows the similarities between the Reapers and the Homunculi. It will go into great detail and explain their creation, powers, and purpose really efficiently and in great detail. My question is: Would you guys like to read it when I'm done?

Certainly would. Always like to be introduced to new stuff. I take it by Homunculi, you're refering to characters in an anime series? 

Yes, they are the villians of the Fullmetal Alchemist franchise which started as a manga about a decade ago. I'm doing this because their similarities to the Reapers are nearly identical, so I figured I'd show it. It'll take me a little over a week to do because I want to watch Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, which is based off the manga, to gather quotes to support my evidence.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:36 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

Wrex and the VS beg to disagree.

[Eryri]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

Wrex and the VS beg to disagree.

I think Rif means as a result of previous bad choices coming back to haunt us much later. Wrex and the VS you had to kill immediately if you failed to persuade them.

Modifié par Eryri, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:36 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Eryri wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

Wrex and the VS beg to disagree.

I think Rif means as a result of previous bad choices coming back to haunt us much later. Wrex and the VI you had to kill immediately if you failed to persuade them.

Wrex begs to disagree if you sabotaged the Genophage.
VS begs to disagree if you also messed up enough before the coup.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Eryri wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

- This is where you start fighting controlled versions of former squad members if you majorly screwed anything up. Let Jack fend for herself at Grissom? You get Jack the phantom. Sold Legion to Cerberus? You have to face the Legion assassin. Later on in London, if you're completely incapable of making intelligent decisions and you killed Samara to get Morinth, you face her as a banshee. In the entire series there's only 3 times we have to kill old 'friends' because we made incredibly bad decisions, and they ALL happen right at the very end of 3. Coincidence? I find it hard to swallow. More likely it's the Reapers trying to break down Shepard's will through guilt trips. Which is how they did it with Amanda Kenson if I recall correctly.

Wrex and the VS beg to disagree.

I think Rif means as a result of previous bad choices coming back to haunt us much later. Wrex and the VS you had to kill immediately if you failed to persuade them.

Like their death quotes in the dream sequences.

[Andromidius]

The whole thing with Jack, Legion and Morinth all coming back to haunt you reminds me a bit of Diablo 3 where demonic minions try to trick you into thinking they are ghosts of people who died earlier in the game coming back to haunt you.

Of course, because its Diablo 3, there's zero actual roleplaying and you just kill them.

[Andromidius]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
stuff

You know what he ment, stop being difficult.

[Eryri]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Wrex begs to disagree if you sabotaged the Genophage.
VS begs to disagree if you also messed up enough before the coup.

Fair enough. I forgot Wrex could also die in ME3, as well as back on Virmire.

Modifié par Eryri, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:41 .

[umadcommander]

Andromidius wrote...

The whole thing with Jack, Legion and Morinth all coming back to haunt you reminds me a bit of Diablo 3 where demonic minions try to trick you into thinking they are ghosts of people who died earlier in the game coming back to haunt you.

Of course, because its Diablo 3, there's zero actual roleplaying and you just kill them.

Diablo 3 featuring clicking, clicking and more clicking

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...


That's why you don't wear them for hours.

And get the man to carry them home for you...

My sister hates wearing high heels. She has to wear them for formal meetings and balls though. It must suck for her.

[Andromidius]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Like their death quotes in the dream sequences.

That's a much more subtle variation, yep.  Though strangely the whispers are seemingly more benign, so possibly that's Shepard's subconscience fighting back against the taint.  None of those whispers blame Shepard for their deaths, infact most of them seem glad to have done their part.

[Humakt83]

Andromidius wrote...

The whole thing with Jack, Legion and Morinth all coming back to haunt you reminds me a bit of Diablo 3 where demonic minions try to trick you into thinking they are ghosts of people who died earlier in the game coming back to haunt you.

Of course, because its Diablo 3, there's zero actual roleplaying and you just kill them.

Bioware did that long ago with original Baldur's Gate.

[Home run MF]

Wrex and the VS were not Reaper puppets like the others Rif mentioned.

[Dwailing]

You know, I don't think any of us have the ability to say with absolute certainty that one explanation IS right about ANYTHING odd in ME3. Is it a possibility that they ran out of time? Yes, but can we KNOW that's right without BioWare telling us?  No, we can't.  It's the same way with IT. Is it a strong possibility? Yes, but can we KNOW that it's right without BioWare telling us? No, and I think we're ALL starting to take this thing WAY too seriously. Remember the days when we would just hang out chatting about weird stuff in ME3 and only getting into serious arguments with trolls? I think we should go back to those days. They were so much nicer.

Modifié par Dwailing, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:45 .