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[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No comment Rif? Are my posts sooo unworthy of your heighness?

Yes, they are.  Now go back to the wonders built by the Protheans like the Citadel and the Mass Relays.

lol you troll, as I said the style is quite different in these, maybe it would help to actually read my post instead of being an arse whos just bitter because he's disabled.

[TSA_383]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

It would have made a lot more sense if TIM used the Udina coup to sneak men and materials onto the Citadel in preparation for the Crucible docking or the inevitable Reaper takeover of the station. Even the assassination of the Council could have served some higher purpose.

It also would have made a lot more sense if Udina's motives had been explained onscreen, even if it was a deathbed apology about being unable to resist the Reaper voices in his head.

Alas.

Why do I get the impression we'll only understand TIM's wish to take the citadel (did he even think he could?) further down the DLC cycle?
For me, it looks a lot like Udina was just a "useful idiot". Not necessarily indoctrinated, but certainly TIM would be able to use him as a puppet no trouble at all...

Salient Archer wrote...

@Masster, TSA_383 and TJBartlemus: Cheers guys, I will return, Promise and I'll miss you guys! - and please feel free to PM me anytime. Same goes for anyone actually; but if I don't write back it's because I don't like you.

 



Also... Maybe BW will give us a release date for Leviathan when that timer up there reaches zero 
We can hope.

[byne]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No comment Rif? Are my posts sooo unworthy of your heighness?

Yes, they are.  Now go back to the wonders built by the Protheans like the Citadel and the Mass Relays.

lol you troll, as I said the style is quite different in these, maybe it would help to actually read my post instead of being an arse whos just bitter because he's disabled.

Did you and Rif ever  get along, Megumi?

[The Heretic of Time]

protognosis wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Here, this is for you guys, because you love symbolism, hidden messages and speculation so much.

No, this is not mockery, it's a wonderful piece of art that I seriously think people like you guys would appreciate.

Ah, yes, "art."

I read your reply to someone's response. Don't attack others when you post a video that has nothing to do with the tread topic if they don't "get" your "art."

Your video could've done well with more space magic and less acid.

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be.

I thought you guys could and would appreciate a video like that. Seems I was wrong.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 07 août 2012 - 12:55 .

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No comment Rif? Are my posts sooo unworthy of your heighness?

Yes, they are.  Now go back to the wonders built by the Protheans like the Citadel and the Mass Relays.

lol you troll, as I said the style is quite different in these, maybe it would help to actually read my post instead of being an arse whos just bitter because he's disabled.

Did you and Rif ever  get along, Megumi?

No.

[munnellyladt]

TSA_383 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

It would have made a lot more sense if TIM used the Udina coup to sneak men and materials onto the Citadel in preparation for the Crucible docking or the inevitable Reaper takeover of the station. Even the assassination of the Council could have served some higher purpose.

It also would have made a lot more sense if Udina's motives had been explained onscreen, even if it was a deathbed apology about being unable to resist the Reaper voices in his head.

Alas.

Why do I get the impression we'll only understand TIM's wish to take the citadel (did he even think he could?) further down the DLC cycle?
For me, it looks a lot like Udina was just a "useful idiot". Not necessarily indoctrinated, but certainly TIM would be able to use him as a puppet no trouble at all...

Salient Archer wrote...

@Masster, TSA_383 and TJBartlemus: Cheers guys, I will return, Promise and I'll miss you guys! - and please feel free to PM me anytime. Same goes for anyone actually; but if I don't write back it's because I don't like you.

 



Also... Maybe BW will give us a release date for Leviathan when that timer up there reaches zero 
We can hope.

Well,right now CP says that there in the middle of testing the dlc for bugs and stuff so It might be 2 weeks or more or something.

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No comment Rif? Are my posts sooo unworthy of your heighness?

Yes, they are.  Now go back to the wonders built by the Protheans like the Citadel and the Mass Relays.

lol you troll, as I said the style is quite different in these, maybe it would help to actually read my post instead of being an arse whos just bitter because he's disabled.

Did you and Rif ever  get along, Megumi?

Can't remember, maybe when we didn't know, but since I shot two things down of what he said he's just full of hate against me.

[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Can't remember, maybe when we didn't know, but since I shot two things down of what he said he's just full of hate against me.

And by "shot down", she means like the time she informed me that black eyes on an asari mean they're under Reaper control.

[byne]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Here, this is for you guys, because you love symbolism, hidden messages and speculation so much.

No, this is not mockery, it's a wonderful piece of art that I seriously think people like you guys would appreciate.

Ah, yes, "art."

I read your reply to someone's response. Don't attack others when you post a video that has nothing to do with the tread topic if they don't "get" your "art."

Your video could've done well with more space magic and less acid.

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be. But what do you know about art?

Heretic, while I agree with you about the video (which, to me, seems to be an extended metaphor for the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the underlying reasons behind them, but probably isnt, since no ones ever accused me of actually getting symbolism) being interesting, I think the negative response you're getting is mostly because its not relevant to IT in really any way, other than not being something to take at face falue.

[MegumiAzusa]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Can't remember, maybe when we didn't know, but since I shot two things down of what he said he's just full of hate against me.

And by "shot down", she means like the time she informed me that black eyes on an asari mean they're under Reaper control.

Don't forget the infrasonic noise! Very important.


Btw you are still ignoring the bit where I said that when they are black for an extended duration, other occurrences are pretty short (sex etc).

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 07 août 2012 - 01:01 .

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Well gwyphon I was the smartest person in my history class in 7th grade and I did a project on Communism and the people I had to work with on the project well...Wanted kkk and other stuff I haven't heard and they wanted to name the Communist country f*** off.

So I took the project home after they did all the work and I redid everything and made 3d models off a a fort and I did this all in 8 hours, and this was a project we been working on for a month.

I'm liberal, but I hate communism.

Now, I may be misunderstanding something here, but how does a fort link with communism? That's actually something I'd like to know.

Liberal, and while I don't "hate" Communism, it isn't evil, it is incredibly idealistic to an absurd degree and is unreasonable in a real world sense, much like Anarchy, it's opposite number.

[MaximizedAction]

munnellyladt wrote...

I just noticed,why does harbinger say anything at all?
I mean everytime the reaper on ranoch shot at you it never said anything.

It just seems odd,there is just silence then there is "serve usss"*laser*

The best interpretation I came up with is that this could mean that Harbinger is getting more and more into Shepard's head. The question THEN is, why can't we understand him like in ME2?

Maybe this is a strategy from both Bioware to us and the Reapers to Shepard to get the mind off the possibility of indoc. It would seem like generic Reaper communication, but at the same time it's confusing as hell to the player...as is the rest of the ending. A foreign language is always confusing, while clear understandable words like in ME2 were easy to fend off.

So, to me it's all signs of Harbinger wiggling himself deeper and deeper into Shep's mind.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

FFZero wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

If I was a bad guy I would be trolling but I do not, and love IT, and everyone else on here on the IT thread.

And we aren’t saying that you are a bad guy, just that your english skills are atrocious. We frequently misunderstand you Masster because we can’t decipher what the hell you are saying, if you used proper english those misunderstandings wouldn’t happen and we wouldn’t be having conversations like this.


Also, if you know a lot of people who talk and write like this then I am absolutely terrified about humanity’s future.

My english class had a spelling bee for fun once.

I won because I spelled the word physician.

Everyone looked at me like I was some kind of wizard.

This was in high school.

I get alot of weird looks when I'm capable of quoting a historical fact off the top of my head.

I regularly had people in highschool asking me "How can you KNOW all this stuff?"

Also, on the subject of Masster's spelling; get Google Chrome, it has a spellcheck built in. Everyone's happy.

Seriously, take your time to write your post right ONCE and then you don't have to explain yourself 5 times. It lets you be more lazy in the long run. Like a programmer.

[FFZero]

Salient Archer wrote...

That's it I can't stand it anymore. I've been lurking since the creation of Mark III just to see if any progress would be made, and instead what I'm witnessing is the decay of a once brilliant thread into nothing more than a joke.

The thread has become about as productive as a fifth wheel on a unicycle. All I see is brilliant minds of this once great thread reduced to only encouraging and entertaining the minds of the neanderthals and trolls who now lurk these pages.

I ask you, what have these idiots contributed? the intellectual equivalent of a mosquito's fart during a gale force wind is all I can summarise.

So all I can say is "thank you" to the great minds that are still left in this thread, and if you weren't outnumbered by the morons, haters and flamers than I would still be around to witness your deep, though provoking insights. But unfortunately it's all grown too much for me.

Honorable mention must go to Byne; for being steadfast, resilient and tenacious enough to get the ball rolling not only once but thrice, and as for the rest of you who I also respect: You know who you are and I love and care for you deeply because of everything you've contributed.

It's been a fun ride; and although I still believe in IDT I no longer can stand what this once great thread has become. I am not going to harp on about this being my last post, etc. as I'm sure I'll probably come back and contribute at some stage, but until then: I wish you all the best of luck.

-Archer out.

P.S. Masster said that without certain individuals this thread wouldn't be the same, and he's correct ... it would be better.

I have to say I agree with you Salient, and I know I haven’t been helping lately with some of my comments and for that I apologise. I’m hoping Leviathan causes another speculation boom, there’s been nothing new to talk about for over a month and whenever something is brought up to speculate over it’s normally something that’s been speculated over 100’s of times already. I really hope after Leviathan is released this thread goes back to the way it used to be.

[CoolioThane]

Dick Hanar

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be.

I thought you guys could and would appreciate a video like that. Seems I was wrong.

****** off with your ****** video. It's got nothing to do with this thread. It's not more art than me3, it's bollocks. You're trying to act intelligent but it's honestly pathetic. Go back to your ignorant 'bad writing' thread and bash Bioware there. It Irks me how you behave

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Alright let's get back on topic.

Was it ever explained why Cerberus invades the citadel? It kind of occured to me that a reason was never given. Either that or I recently forgot it.

Never explained.  I suspect we'll find out when we retake Omega because I'm sure it was the same reason there.

Well, the codex explained it.

From the codex...

Councilor Udina's attempted coup will no doubt be analyzed for generations to come, but a clear picture is beginning to merge. Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.

Whether or not that makes any sense is another matter, but the codex did give an explanation.

We got an explanation for Udina's motiavtion, doesn't tell us anything about what The Illusive Man wanted with the council dead.

[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Can't remember, maybe when we didn't know, but since I shot two things down of what he said he's just full of hate against me.

And by "shot down", she means like the time she informed me that black eyes on an asari mean they're under Reaper control.

Don't forget the infrasonic noise! Very important.

[munnellyladt]

MaximizedAction wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

I just noticed,why does harbinger say anything at all?
I mean everytime the reaper on ranoch shot at you it never said anything.

It just seems odd,there is just silence then there is "serve usss"*laser*

The best interpretation I came up with is that this could mean that Harbinger is getting more and more into Shepard's head. The question THEN is, why can't we understand him like in ME2?

Maybe this is a strategy from both Bioware to us and the Reapers to Shepard to get the mind off the possibility of indoc. It would seem like generic Reaper communication, but at the same time it's confusing as hell to the player...as is the rest of the ending. A foreign language is always confusing, while clear understandable words like in ME2 were easy to fend off.

So, to me it's all signs of Harbinger wiggling himself deeper and deeper into Shep's mind.

I keep thinking,if IT is true and is released as dlc,then everybody would know that IT is true and then the surprise is gone.
So if it is true then how do they release it???

[plfranke]

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

FFZero wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

If I was a bad guy I would be trolling but I do not, and love IT, and everyone else on here on the IT thread.

And we aren’t saying that you are a bad guy, just that your english skills are atrocious. We frequently misunderstand you Masster because we can’t decipher what the hell you are saying, if you used proper english those misunderstandings wouldn’t happen and we wouldn’t be having conversations like this.


Also, if you know a lot of people who talk and write like this then I am absolutely terrified about humanity’s future.

My english class had a spelling bee for fun once.

I won because I spelled the word physician.

Everyone looked at me like I was some kind of wizard.

This was in high school.

I get alot of weird looks when I'm capable of quoting a historical fact off the top of my head.

I regularly had people in highschool asking me "How can you KNOW all this stuff?"

Also, on the subject of Masster's spelling; get Google Chrome, it has a spellcheck built in. Everyone's happy.

Seriously, take your time to write your post right ONCE and then you don't have to explain yourself 5 times. It lets you be more lazy in the long run. Like a programmer.

It's not only his spelling that gets me though, it's the way he words his posts. It's just funny and even the posts where he spells things correctly or at the very least I don't notice the mistakes I still find them hilarious.

[munnellyladt]

CoolioThane wrote...

Dick Hanar

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be.

I thought you guys could and would appreciate a video like that. Seems I was wrong.

****** off with your ****** video. It's got nothing to do with this thread. It's not more art than me3, it's bollocks. You're trying to act intelligent but it's honestly pathetic. Go back to your ignorant 'bad writing' thread and bash Bioware there. It Irks me how you behave

Calm the F down Coolio.

Don't let him get to you.

[byne]

CoolioThane wrote...

****** off with your ****** video. It's got nothing to do with this thread. It's not more art than me3, it's bollocks. You're trying to act intelligent but it's honestly pathetic. Go back to your ignorant 'bad writing' thread and bash Bioware there. It Irks me how you behave

Coolio, you need to chill out, man. And dont edit other people's names. Thats just immature.

[The Heretic of Time]

CoolioThane wrote...

Heretic_Hanar

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be.

I thought you guys could and would appreciate a video like that. Seems I was wrong.

****** off with your ****** video. It's got nothing to do with this thread. It's not more art than me3, it's bollocks. You're trying to act intelligent but it's honestly pathetic. Go back to your ignorant 'bad writing' thread and bash Bioware there. It Irks me how you behave

The video has more to do with this thread than you think. It's not a ****** video though and it certainly is not bollocks, you're just saying that to spite me. I'm quite sure you wouldn't say this if someone else, someone you respect, like Byne for example, posted that video. Then all of the sudden you'd be more open-minded towards it and you'd probably appreciate it. You can say that it isn't so but we both know that it most certainly is so.

The fact that my behavior irks you is a problem that lies with you, as I've done nothing wrong, other than perhaps posting something that is not directly linked to the IT, yet does follow the same theme as the IT.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 07 août 2012 - 01:11 .

[FFZero]

CoolioThane wrote...

Dick Hanar

I find it amazingly hypocritical and ironic that this is coming from an IT supporter.


Yes, it is art, so is Mass Effect, whether you like it or not, whether the IT is true or not. Isn't it so that you guys praise the "art" of Mass Effect 3 in form of the IT? Isn't it so that you guys think the IT is "art" and that the ambigious endings of ME3 are really "artistic"? Didn't you guys say that if the IT is true, BioWare are the greatest artists in video-game history? I'm sure I've seen things like that being posted.

At the same time, this video I linked does exactly the same. It's an artistic video that is open for multiple intepretations. It's ambigious, yet the message of it is very strong once you start to see the patterns and once you start to understand the symbolism in it. This video truly is art, more than Mass Effect will ever be.

I thought you guys could and would appreciate a video like that. Seems I was wrong.

****** off with your ****** video. It's got nothing to do with this thread. It's not more art than me3, it's bollocks. You're trying to act intelligent but it's honestly pathetic. Go back to your ignorant 'bad writing' thread and bash Bioware there. It Irks me how you behave

Coolio can you please stop being so hostile to everyone who comes into this thread and doesn’t share your opinion on IT?

I know Heretic_Hanar hasn’t exactly endeared himself to any of us because of what he has said in the past but is it really necessary to verbally abuse him? If you’re not careful you're going to get yourself banned sooner or later.

[MaximizedAction]

munnellyladt wrote...

I keep thinking,if IT is true and is released as dlc,then everybody would know that IT is true and then the surprise is gone.
So if it is true then how do they release it???

Well, as many here suggested, it could be at the end of the DLC cycle as the final DLC. But I myself wonder whether they can KOTOR-like flashback every piece of hint to the final reveal. I guess it's neither possible, nor really necessery. Only some of it is really obvious. The most other hints and clues are so well hidden that even a KOTOR-flashback won't really help -- like for example the gun swap: if you haven't already seen it, then a camera zoom on it in an IT-DLC won't really be that enlightening, either.


Also, I want to say:
the amount of cussing, name calling and off-topic-ity has dangerously increased to the level where my spidey senses are tingling that it's not far until a mod or worse could crash the party and kill the music.
So maybe we should tone it down before we get toned down. Would be sad, otherwise, in my opinion.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 août 2012 - 01:16 .

[The Heretic of Time]

FFZero wrote...

Coolio can you please stop being so hostile to everyone who comes into this thread and doesn’t share your opinion on IT?

I know Heretic_Hanar hasn’t exactly endeared himself to any of us because of what he has said in the past but is it really necessary to verbally abuse him? If you’re not careful you're going to get yourself banned sooner or later.

I appreciate you standing up for me, though I doubt you do that because you like me (you probably don't). I'm not here to make friends though, I'm here to share a piece of art that I believe deserves to be shared and because I honestly believed you IT folks would be the proper audience for the video that I linked. I honestly assumed most of you guys would like it, that's why I posted it here. Even though that video has nothing to do with the IT, it is thematically linked to the IT. The video is about indoctrination and symbolism.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 07 août 2012 - 01:15 .