Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
#63376
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:04
#63377
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:05
masster blaster wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
www.youtube.com/watch
Guys I Hear voices in the Normandy pick up scene.
Guys Harbinger stops attacking Shepard. You don't hear any of his lasers firing at all, and a Mako stops to cover Shepard, and does not get hit until they charge foward.
What if th3e voices are the Rachni queen?didn't she say when the time comes our voices will join yours.
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
#63378
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:07
Restrider wrote...
Anybody remember agent M?
MJ?
#63379
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:07
Me too. The indoctrination experience is much cooler and more fluid without it.BleedingUranium wrote...
With regards to Restrider's poll, I see standard IT as the K option, though EC makes it a toss up between J and K. If the post end DLC doesn't require EC, I'll probably uninstall EC.
#63380
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:10
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Just to go back to that Mako thing...
Does anybody notice in the Extended Cut that they ADDED a friggin' Mako getting overturned RIGHT BESIDE SHEPARD before he gets hit by the laser?
Yes.
#63381
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:11
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Just to go back to that Mako thing...
Does anybody notice in the Extended Cut that they ADDED a friggin' Mako getting overturned RIGHT BESIDE SHEPARD before he gets hit by the laser?
I forgot about that
#63382
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:11
Edit: I love how Shepard totally jumps a Mako.
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 décembre 2012 - 11:13 .
#63383
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:13
BansheeOwnage wrote...
Just noticed something interesting. As soon as Harbinger's laser triggers the evac cutscene, Shepard loses his/her guns and has a Predator. More gun symbolism?
Edit: I love how Shepard totally jumps a Mako.
Good catch! Another reason the Carnifex turns back into a Predator in Destroy.
Modifié par BleedingUranium, 08 décembre 2012 - 11:14 .
#63384
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:14
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
#63385
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:16
Restrider wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
i believe mac walters did
#63386
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:17
#63387
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:21
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Just to go back to that Mako thing...
Does anybody notice in the Extended Cut that they ADDED a friggin' Mako getting overturned RIGHT BESIDE SHEPARD before he gets hit by the laser?
Wow, I haven't looked at that Mako from this point of view. Love it!
#63388
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:22
umadcommander wrote...
Restrider wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
i believe mac walters did
Yep. One week before release Mac said that the Rachni would play a major role during the final battle with the Reapers.
#63389
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:23
Yes. And it was either just before or just after launch.Restrider wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 décembre 2012 - 11:24 .
#63390
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:26
MaximizedAction wrote...
IronSabbath88 wrote...
Just to go back to that Mako thing...
Does anybody notice in the Extended Cut that they ADDED a friggin' Mako getting overturned RIGHT BESIDE SHEPARD before he gets hit by the laser?
Wow, I haven't looked at that Mako from this point of view. Love it!
I think I had noticed it, but I never really thought about it. Great catch Iron. I KNEW that was a Mako next to Shepard. Well, either a Mako, or one of those vehicles that Shepard came to the beam in. Until now, I wasn't certain, but now, I'm certain that the full indoctrination hallucination starts when Shepard gets knocked out by Harbinger. However, I think he might have been hallucinating the Normandy evac. My guess is that either Shepard's teammates were knocked out and he was forced to leave them behind, or they weren't actually evac'd by the Normandy, but instead were rescued by some other vehicle.
#63391
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:26
Another awards show. Last night was awesome fun if anyone wants to do the same tonight?
#63392
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:28
BleedingUranium wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Am I the only one who wishes Joker could be a Squadmate?
Maybe put him inside a modified Atlas, and have him laughing like a little boy as he stomps on people's heads and yelling "Who's got brittle bones now, huh?"
That'd be hilarious, but his cover fire in the suicide mission remains awesomely badass!CoolioThane wrote...
Yep, maybe we control Joker for a bit as we take the helm of the Normandy in space battles to get to Earth and pick up the unconscious Shep in the rubble
You know, that'd be a great way to introduce post-end content: Have a DLC where you fly the Normandy with Sword fleet, but really it keeps going after that.
You'd play through the whole end sequence, then it'd go back to when Shepard left in the shuttle, and you'd replay the same timeframe from Joker's perspective. Except it'd be reality, so everyone would be all like "Where's the Crucible?" "Where's the space magic?" and then you'd get a radio call that Hammer's been wiped out by Harbinger, and you go down and find Shepard in the rubble!
Yes, yes, and yes to all of the above.
Joker's one of my favourite characters in ME, and taking control of him to pull Shep out of the fire would be a great call back to ME2. Flying the Normandy in a combat sitation would be beyond epic, but putting Joker in an Atlas suit to curb stomp husks would be a very close second.
I especially like the idea of hopping back in time to see events from Joker's perspective before progressing to the rescue.
#63393
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:30
BleedingUranium wrote...
umadcommander wrote...
Restrider wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
i believe mac walters did
Yep. One week before release Mac said that the Rachni would play a major role during the final battle with the Reapers.
dat 100 ems
#63394
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:31
Eryri wrote...
Yes, yes, and yes to all of the above.
Joker's one of my favourite characters in ME, and taking control of him to pull Shep out of the fire would be a great call back to ME2. Flying the Normandy in a combat sitation would be beyond epic, but putting Joker in an Atlas suit to curb stomp husks would be a very close second.
I especially like the idea of hopping back in time to see events from Joker's perspective before progressing to the rescue.
I think that's the best way to do an IT reveal, they'd never have to outright say something like "Oh that didn't happen". Just showing everything from another character's perspective would accomplish the same thing!
#63395
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:33
BleedingUranium wrote...
Eryri wrote...
Yes, yes, and yes to all of the above.
Joker's one of my favourite characters in ME, and taking control of him to pull Shep out of the fire would be a great call back to ME2. Flying the Normandy in a combat sitation would be beyond epic, but putting Joker in an Atlas suit to curb stomp husks would be a very close second.
I especially like the idea of hopping back in time to see events from Joker's perspective before progressing to the rescue.
I think that's the best way to do an IT reveal, they'd never have to outright say something like "Oh that didn't happen". Just showing everything from another character's perspective would accomplish the same thing!
This. Everyone would play through, expecting the Crucible to fire...but nothing happens, everyone's like "dafuq", hear retreat message, Joker flies in finds shep in the rubble.
Everyone goes mental; IT is true, we beat them. We all literally climax
#63396
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:33
umadcommander wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
umadcommander wrote...
Restrider wrote...
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Yeah, that line, the fact that she is resistant to Indoctrination, that she can interact with Organic minds and sprinkled with Bioware's quote she would play a major role in the ending is what makes me guess she is a ticket out if you pick wrong in the end.
Did they actually say the bolded part?
Specifically the "ending" part! If it is factual, well then...
i believe mac walters did
Yep. One week before release Mac said that the Rachni would play a major role during the final battle with the Reapers.
dat 100 ems
Yup. It has SUCH a major impact on the final battle with the Reapers. Not. Unless there's more to come...
#63397
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:35
CoolioThane wrote...
www.youtube.com/user/machinimalive
Another awards show. Last night was awesome fun if anyone wants to do the same tonight?
Best Environmental Design should go to either ME3 or Max Payne 3. They were both awesome.
#63398
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:37
CoolioThane wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Eryri wrote...
Yes, yes, and yes to all of the above.
Joker's one of my favourite characters in ME, and taking control of him to pull Shep out of the fire would be a great call back to ME2. Flying the Normandy in a combat sitation would be beyond epic, but putting Joker in an Atlas suit to curb stomp husks would be a very close second.
I especially like the idea of hopping back in time to see events from Joker's perspective before progressing to the rescue.
I think that's the best way to do an IT reveal, they'd never have to outright say something like "Oh that didn't happen". Just showing everything from another character's perspective would accomplish the same thing!
This. Everyone would play through, expecting the Crucible to fire...but nothing happens, everyone's like "dafuq", hear retreat message, Joker flies in finds shep in the rubble.
Everyone goes mental; IT is true, we beat them. We all literally climax
finding shepard in the rubble with illusive man style eyes
#63399
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:39
BleedingUranium wrote...
I think that's the best way to do an IT reveal, they'd never have to outright say something like "Oh that didn't happen". Just showing everything from another character's perspective would accomplish the same thing!
Agreed. While playing it you'd notice little things that didn't match up to the version you know. At first you might write it off as inconsistencies in the writing, but gradually the weirdness piles up until you think "hang on!"
I'm actually really quite excited by that idea. It could be a terrifically cinematic and groundbreaking bit of storytelling.
I'm also now slightly worried that even if they do an IT reveal, it won't live up to how epic this sounds.
Darn it Blur, now you've set me up to be disappointed!
#63400
Posté 08 décembre 2012 - 11:43
Now showing ME3.
Modifié par paxxton, 08 décembre 2012 - 11:44 .




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