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#63626
Nightingale

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BleedingUranium wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

I'm completely out of the loop these days (been so busy and haven't had much Internet access) but I'm glad to see this thread still going strong :happy:


Yep! Nice signature!

Wait, why are you FemShep? Posted Image

Haha I guess it should be Liara, but I like FemShep, too :whistle:
And thanks!

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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

New haircut on my femshep looks hawt. =P

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Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
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Since apparently mine looks goth.


I don't think yours looks Goth. I think mine does though. Your Shep kind of looks like the older sister of mine. =P

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 09 décembre 2012 - 01:57 .


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www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/20/the-story-secrets-of-spec-ops-the-line

"For me, everything after the crash is Walker kind of reliving the hell of what he had just done," says Williams. "You can even interpret Konrad as being not necessarily a delusion inside his mind, but some kind of external projection of his guilt in this purgatory or hell or afterlife, or however you choose to view it."

That said, Williams notes one last, vital visual trick. "Any time the game is doing a normal transition, it'll fade to black. Any time Walker is hallucinating, or lying to himself, in a kind of delusional fashion, the game will fade to white," he says. "The entire epilogue sequence where Walker goes home, it fades to white. Even if you are not reading that Walker died in the chopper crash, it is meant to be understood that Walker is hallucinating going home."

Spec Ops spends much of its time trying to pull the wool over players' eyes using visual trickery. That it uses the same device to silently reinforce an agenda is nothing short of brilliant. Williams and Yager display an extraordinary level of coordination to support a story whose greatest strength is deception.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Wow...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:02 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

New haircut on my femshep looks hawt. =P

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Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
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Since apparently mine looks goth.

Since you both areposting femshep pics, I will as well! I don't think yours looks goth though.

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Modifié par estebanus, 09 décembre 2012 - 01:58 .


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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.


I agree

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BleedingUranium wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

I'm completely out of the loop these days (been so busy and haven't had much Internet access) but I'm glad to see this thread still going strong :happy:


Yep! Nice signature!

Wait, why are you FemShep? Posted Image

Ha, I asked that a long time ago. Good to see you again DrTsoni! Also, whenever I read your name I hear Garrus say "Tsoni". It's aweseome.

#63633
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AresKeith wrote...

@Megumi y u no post your FemShep pics? :o

Hmm I should go on and create 2 new for testing (basically playing them the same but picking the collector base in one instance and to have something to distinguish them :D)
other then that
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btw anyone noticed if you are at a certain distance the conduit is shown as something you can use
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#63634
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
Posted Image
Since apparently mine looks goth.

Goth? She? Nope

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Bioware needs to give us console players some love and grant us more options for hair styles etc.

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The Walking Dead is sooo amazing

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I hope the GOTY goes to ME3.

#63638
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Mine looks Gother. =P

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CoolioThane wrote...

The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


It's because of the show.

#63640
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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

You could always provide a link to an image for clarity :D


http://www.vivi-clot...0-1600x1600.jpg

Don't ask me why it says 'sandals' though, they're anything but.

Ah these. Has to fit with the outfit imo, "normal" high heels work in about any case.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:02 .


#63641
BleedingUranium

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.


You mean without further expansion? Because IT doesn't need additional content to be true.

#63642
BansheeOwnage

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

New haircut on my femshep looks hawt. =P

Posted Image

Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
Posted Image
Since apparently mine looks goth.

Since you both areposting femshep pics, I will as well! I don't think yours looks goth though.

Posted Image



That was my point, actually, she doesn't. A lot of other people said she did. Nice irregular contrast between the red hair and blue eyes. Very unique!

#63643
CoolioThane

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masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


It's because of the show.


Nope, the game's based on the comics. 

#63644
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CoolioThane wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


It's because of the show.


Nope, the game's based on the comics. 


trust me I asked my friends why do you like the game/ the comics. And they said because of the show.,

#63645
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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.


You mean without further expansion? Because IT doesn't need additional content to be true.


Sure, if you're cool with the Reapers winning.  Then yeah, no additional content needed.

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estebanus wrote...

-------8<------


Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:04 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.


You mean without further expansion? Because IT doesn't need additional content to be true.

Yes, and as such, the game as it is remains broken, simple as that. The IT isn't counted with when determining a winner.

#63648
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
Posted Image
Since apparently mine looks goth.

Goth? She? Nope

Yeah, I know. I don't know what the others were on about. Maybe it was the lighting.

#63649
BleedingUranium

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Bill Casey wrote...

www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/20/the-story-secrets-of-spec-ops-the-line

"For me, everything after the crash is Walker kind of reliving the hell of what he had just done," says Williams. "You can even interpret Konrad as being not necessarily a delusion inside his mind, but some kind of external projection of his guilt in this purgatory or hell or afterlife, or however you choose to view it."

That said, Williams notes one last, vital visual trick. "Any time the game is doing a normal transition, it'll fade to black. Any time Walker is hallucinating, or lying to himself, in a kind of delusional fashion, the game will fade to white," he says. "The entire epilogue sequence where Walker goes home, it fades to white. Even if you are not reading that Walker died in the chopper crash, it is meant to be understood that Walker is hallucinating going home."

hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Wow...


And people can't put that together in ME3? Wow. Do people not understand that a fade to white is always a transition to some kind of non-reality?

#63650
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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

-------8<------


Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?

Nope, that's DA 2.