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Rifneno

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?


What's this "almost" ****?  Redheads > *.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Okay, so I never really watched the low EMS Destroy ending until now..

You mean the galaxy is still saved? There are SURVIVORS? So essentially you still beat the reapers even with the crap low EMS? There's no punishment aside from the galaxy being in worse shape?

Well that's kinda weird..

But... but... I linked it about 5 times now in this thread.
(It was even part of my argument)

That and Earth basically being completely charred. :D

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DoomsdayDevice

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

You could always provide a link to an image for clarity :D


http://www.vivi-clot...0-1600x1600.jpg

Don't ask me why it says 'sandals' though, they're anything but.


Ah these. Has to fit with the outfit imo, "normal" high heels work in about any case.


Agreed.

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CoolioThane wrote...
The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


You checked it out after the VGA's? 

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?

Hey, Estebanus you should upload your Shepard pic and we can use ours together! Posted Image

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estebanus

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

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New haircut on my femshep looks hawt. =P

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Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!
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Since apparently mine looks goth.

Since you both areposting femshep pics, I will as well! I don't think yours looks goth though.

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That was my point, actually, she doesn't. A lot of other people said she did. Nice irregular contrast between the red hair and blue eyes. Very unique!

Pretty common in northern Europe to see redheads with blue eyes, actually. I modeled that femshep after my sister :P

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Rifneno wrote...

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

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Spec Ops the line for Best Narrative? Over ME3?

These awards are broken. CoD is going to win GOTY.

ME3 certainly doesn't deserve it.


Says you.

No, says probably most other people as well. 

Without the IT, the game doesn't deserve GOTY. The ending nullifies it all, and if you think the VGAs count IT with in, then you're most likely wrong.


You mean without further expansion? Because IT doesn't need additional content to be true.


Sure, if you're cool with the Reapers winning.  Then yeah, no additional content needed.


We don't know that, we don't know anything. IT doesn't need additional content, but the Mass Effect story does. The end of ME3 is no different from the end of ME1 or 2: It closed the game's plot but not the Reaper one.

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DoomsdayDevice

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Rifneno wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?


What's this "almost" ****?  Redheads > *.


I fell in love with Kelly Chambers in ME2. In ME3 however, she doesn't even resemble her. Especially the hair is bad.

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But yeah, I donno why you guys are expecting ME3 to rake in awards. Without an IT reveal, ME3 is less desirable than Hitler's prostate tumor.

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masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


It's because of the show.


Nope, the game's based on the comics. 


trust me I asked my friends why do you like the game/ the comics. And they said because of the show.,


Where you live maybe! :P

Yay another Walking Dead win :D

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

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Redheads are almost cute by default. =)

Looks better than the one in your avatar. Or wait, that isn't from ME, or is it?

Hey, Estebanus you should upload your Shepard pic and we can use ours together! Posted Image

I dunno how.

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Is the Walking Dead really that good or simply that popular?

Modifié par paxxton, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:08 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Okay, so I never really watched the low EMS Destroy ending until now..

You mean the galaxy is still saved? There are SURVIVORS? So essentially you still beat the reapers even with the crap low EMS? There's no punishment aside from the galaxy being in worse shape?

Well that's kinda weird..


In literal the only way to lose is to pick Refuse, and picking Refuse is at its most stupid in literal.

Not really. It's admitting "I cannot know that what you say is true" or "I couldn't live with the consequences of any choice". The second is why it's called opt out by the devs instead of refuse.

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CoolioThane

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demersel wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...
The Walking Dead is sooo amazing


You checked it out after the VGA's? 


No I've been playing since the first episode came out :o

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DoomsdayDevice

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

New haircut on my femshep looks hawt. =P

*snip*

Nice shameless promotion. :P We can be goth Shepards together!

*snip*

Since apparently mine looks goth.

Since you both areposting femshep pics, I will as well! I don't think yours looks goth though.

*snip*

That was my point, actually, she doesn't. A lot of other people said she did. Nice irregular contrast between the red hair and blue eyes. Very unique!

Pretty common in northern Europe to see redheads with blue eyes, actually. I modeled that femshep after my sister :P


Mine has blue eyes as well, but you can't see it because I just took a picture of the TV screen.

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OMG. soo funny..... Multyplayer.... i think i'm going to pass out...

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Rifneno wrote...

But yeah, I donno why you guys are expecting ME3 to rake in awards. Without an IT reveal, ME3 is less desirable than Hitler's prostate tumor.

I think the west may have desired that, it could've incapacitated him :P

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CoolioThane

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paxxton wrote...

Is the Walking Dead really that good or simply that popular?


The story is intense. It is so well written. Made me cry quite a lot :/

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Rif is right. The ending makes IT pretty obvious, but the game ends with Shepard and the galactic fleet in a desperate situation. In addition to that the crucible is obviously a trap. Without Bioware revealing anything, one would have to headcannon something pretty freaking amazing to score Shepard and the galaxy a win in that mess.

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Rifneno wrote...

But yeah, I donno why you guys are expecting ME3 to rake in awards. Without an IT reveal, ME3 is less desirable than Hitler's prostate tumor.

Not to mention the mainstream (mis)interpretation of the end of the game. Hell, this awards show even put Shepard in their "in memoriam" bit tonight.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:12 .


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paxxton wrote...

Is the Walking Dead really that good or simply that popular?

It's terrific. I say it did a much better job than Mass Effect 3 did with choices having meaningful consequences. Very emotionally engaging as well.

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That's just unacceptable. ME3 MP wasn't even nominated. But I'm glad Halo 4 got the Best Competitive MP Award.

EDIT: My bad. ME3 MP is not competitive but co-operative.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:15 .


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Wow Halo beat CoD in MP.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/20/the-story-secrets-of-spec-ops-the-line

"For me, everything after the crash is Walker kind of reliving the hell of what he had just done," says Williams. "You can even interpret Konrad as being not necessarily a delusion inside his mind, but some kind of external projection of his guilt in this purgatory or hell or afterlife, or however you choose to view it."

That said, Williams notes one last, vital visual trick. "Any time the game is doing a normal transition, it'll fade to black. Any time Walker is hallucinating, or lying to himself, in a kind of delusional fashion, the game will fade to white," he says. "The entire epilogue sequence where Walker goes home, it fades to white. Even if you are not reading that Walker died in the chopper crash, it is meant to be understood that Walker is hallucinating going home."

hahahahahahahahahahahaha...
Wow...


And people can't put that together in ME3? Wow. Do people not understand that a fade to white is always a transition to some kind of non-reality?


I think we need to add this to the front page.  "Other games that do a similar plot twist, and confirmed to do so."  And Spec Ops isn't even sci-fi, and doesn't have billion year old super AI's with mind control abiltiies.

Its getting harder and harder to intelligently dodge IT's weight of validation.

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Mass Effect 3 MUST win the co-op multiplayer. MUST.

Edit: and they did! 

Modifié par demersel, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:14 .