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Andromidius wrote...

How confused would people be if I started using my Femshep as my avatar?

...honestly, I'd be confused as well.

I wouldn't be. Plus, the more custom avatars the better!

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Gravity is accepted by everyone. IT isn't.

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Lokanaiya wrote...

In the way gravity is a theory... :whistle:

Edit: :ph34r:

Ha! Sorry about that. Posted ImagePosted Image

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estebanus wrote...

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Announcing massive plot spoilers long before the DLC is even being advertised would be...  Uh.  Not good.

They've already announced ME4.  They have nothing really to announce without spoiling.


To be fair, BW putting spoilers in trailers is almost a tradition now.  ME1's trailer spoiled the Virmire sacrifice ffs.


Well that's a relatively small one, compared to...say...the main character being Indoctrinated and that ending we've had for 9 months didn't actually happen and now you have to pay to see the real ending.

I imagine the backlash would have been pretty brutal.

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.


Would be funny

Bioware: You have to buy the IT dlc.

Literalist: Angry face.

ITers: Happy face, yet pissed off face.

Day of the release

Bioware:  The Dlc is free.

Literalist: Happy face
ITer's: Super happy face.

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estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

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demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.

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estebanus wrote...

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.


They could call it something like "Aftermath".  Would be a big transition DLC between ME3 and ME4, explaining how the two mesh together, what happens to all your squadmates, what happened to the Reapers, etc.

And mention nothing about Shepard being in it.  Or that its actually about Shepard's Indoctrination, and ME4 is a continuation of the war against the Reapers (with or without Shep).

Thus it wouldn't be lying in the adverts, and wouldn't reveal anything spoilerish!

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Lokanaiya wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

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So, no ME3 GOTY.

No IT announcement. There probably won't be an IT now, these awards would've been the prime time to announce something.

If we don't get an announcement confirming IT, then Bioware are fools. They would've missed a HUGE oppurtunity just to keep their "artistic integrity" safe.


O_o
ME wins=fans like literal ending
ME loses=fans hate it


I don't understand what you're trying to say. By "literal ending" I assume you mean the IT ending?

Whether or not ME won or lost the GOTY doesn't determine whether or not I like the IT ending (which I do).

Literal ending is Literal ending(3 colors, space magic :wizard:)
IT ending is just theory now
I like IT but it's just theory


In the way gravity is a theory... :whistle:

Edit: :ph34r:

There's a huge difference between science and literature. In science, there is no word of god, while there is in literature. Plus, Occam's razor applies to science. 

If the IT were a theory just as much as gravity, more people would believe it. Gravity is proven, IT is not.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.


Why, did they fire Fagnan?

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Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.


Why, did they fire Fagnan?

Who's that?

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masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Announcing massive plot spoilers long before the DLC is even being advertised would be...  Uh.  Not good.

They've already announced ME4.  They have nothing really to announce without spoiling.


To be fair, BW putting spoilers in trailers is almost a tradition now.  ME1's trailer spoiled the Virmire sacrifice ffs.


Well that's a relatively small one, compared to...say...the main character being Indoctrinated and that ending we've had for 9 months didn't actually happen and now you have to pay to see the real ending.

I imagine the backlash would have been pretty brutal.

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.


Would be funny

Bioware: You have to buy the IT dlc.

Literalist: Angry face.

ITers: Happy face, yet pissed off face.

Day of the release

Bioware:  The Dlc is free.

Literalist: Happy face
ITer's: Super happy face.

Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

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Rifneno wrote...

Gravity is accepted by everyone. IT isn't.


Don't give people too much credit.  I'm sure there are some people out there who don't believe in Gravity.  Or remotely understand what it is.

Though there is a difference between the Force of Gravity and the Theory of Gravity.  For one thing, the Theory of Gravity is actually wrong (and known to be wrong) - its just as close to correct as we correct know, but sometimes doesn't work under certain conditions.

Yeah I know.  Mind = blown when I found out that.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.

Paxxton, you are wrong. Playing a horde modus on different difficulty settings is hardly worthy of an award.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Announcing massive plot spoilers long before the DLC is even being advertised would be...  Uh.  Not good.

They've already announced ME4.  They have nothing really to announce without spoiling.


To be fair, BW putting spoilers in trailers is almost a tradition now.  ME1's trailer spoiled the Virmire sacrifice ffs.


Well that's a relatively small one, compared to...say...the main character being Indoctrinated and that ending we've had for 9 months didn't actually happen and now you have to pay to see the real ending.

I imagine the backlash would have been pretty brutal.

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.


Would be funny

Bioware: You have to buy the IT dlc.

Literalist: Angry face.

ITers: Happy face, yet pissed off face.

Day of the release

Bioware:  The Dlc is free.

Literalist: Happy face
ITer's: Super happy face.

Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.


Could be why Omega was so high of a price because maybe Bioware DIDN'T want to put a money sign on the IT dlc, but now they have to.

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estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

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estebanus wrote...

There's a huge difference between science and literature. In science, there is no word of god, while there is in literature.


I keep hearing this said, but it's not like WoG is always reliable.  They told us lots of lies before.  It wouldn't exactly be the first time.  Anyone remember that whole debate about HAL being a metaphor for IBM in 2001: A Space Odyssey?  Kubrick, the writer, flat out said it was nonsense.  He had characters in-universe say it was nonsense.  4 decades later, they release a high definition version of the movie that shows some additional "hints" that pretty much confirmed the theory.

Everybody lies.  Including writers.

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Rifneno wrote...

Why, did they fire Fagnan?


As much as I've been enjoying MP recently, I will say this.  It has serious issues - namely Geth being stagger-happy bastards who can quite often two shot a non-defensive character even on Silver, and certain weapons being utter garbage for no good reason.

Finally unlocked a decent N7 character though - the N7 Paladin Sentinel is pretty fun, very tech-spammy.  But again, its another Sentinel with no Biotics, which is just weird.

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estebanus wrote...
Paxxton, you are wrong. Playing a horde modus on different difficulty settings is hardly worthy of an award.

It's not original, but that wasn't the point of the award.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:48 .


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masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Announcing massive plot spoilers long before the DLC is even being advertised would be...  Uh.  Not good.

They've already announced ME4.  They have nothing really to announce without spoiling.


To be fair, BW putting spoilers in trailers is almost a tradition now.  ME1's trailer spoiled the Virmire sacrifice ffs.


Well that's a relatively small one, compared to...say...the main character being Indoctrinated and that ending we've had for 9 months didn't actually happen and now you have to pay to see the real ending.

I imagine the backlash would have been pretty brutal.

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.


Would be funny

Bioware: You have to buy the IT dlc.

Literalist: Angry face.

ITers: Happy face, yet pissed off face.

Day of the release

Bioware:  The Dlc is free.

Literalist: Happy face
ITer's: Super happy face.

Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.


Could be why Omega was so high of a price because maybe Bioware DIDN'T want to put a money sign on the IT dlc, but now they have to.

Yeah, I really doubt that. Had it been 20, I'd have said you were on to something, but not 5.

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.

Paxxton, you are wrong. Playing a horde modus on different difficulty settings is hardly worthy of an award.

It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging too.

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Rifneno wrote...
Everybody lies.  Including Especially writers.


Fixed!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

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paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.


And fixed!

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Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Why, did they fire Fagnan?


As much as I've been enjoying MP recently, I will say this.  It has serious issues - namely Geth being stagger-happy bastards who can quite often two shot a non-defensive character even on Silver, and certain weapons being utter garbage for no good reason.

Finally unlocked a decent N7 character though - the N7 Paladin Sentinel is pretty fun, very tech-spammy.  But again, its another Sentinel with no Biotics, which is just weird.


LOL yeah.  Everyone complains about the geth stagger.  They said they'd look into it.  What did they do?  Added 2 NEW ways for them to stagger.  One of which even staggers the kroguard, which was previously immune to geth stagger.  Stupidity like that is why I say ME3 MP is garbage.

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Announcing massive plot spoilers long before the DLC is even being advertised would be...  Uh.  Not good.

They've already announced ME4.  They have nothing really to announce without spoiling.


To be fair, BW putting spoilers in trailers is almost a tradition now.  ME1's trailer spoiled the Virmire sacrifice ffs.

And they released a screenshot of the final scene in Omega weeks before it went live, which confounded us to the point that we assumed there would be more to the DLC. :pinched:


The ME1 trailer lacks context, so it's only a spoiler in hindsight. The Omega one though... yeah, no idea what they were thinking with that one Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And from now they gonna start calling it "the Award-winning Co-op Multuplayer feature"


And FOX News calls themselves "Fair and Balanced".  What's your point?


And what is yours? 

That it's utter bullsh*t perhaps?

Estebanus, you are wrong. ME3 MP is awesome.

Paxxton, you are wrong. Playing a horde modus on different difficulty settings is hardly worthy of an award.

It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging too.

So is BF3 MP. Or Borderlands 2. or AC 3 MP. BF3 and AC 3 MP even has different modes to it!