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[masster blaster]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

Hell ya.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

Hell ya.

Like how you couldn't see any enemies when we were playing earlier?

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

At least you're no longer kicking out everybody at random. Indeed, it is fixed.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:51 .

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...
LOL yeah.  Everyone complains about the geth stagger.  They said they'd look into it.  What did they do?  Added 2 NEW ways for them to stagger.  One of which even staggers the kroguard, which was previously immune to geth stagger.  Stupidity like that is why I say ME3 MP is garbage.

There's plenty of ridiculous situations happening in it too.  Like on a Cerberus Gold game, device shutdown mission and everyone else is down.  An endless stream of Guardians kept me pinned in cover right next to the final device for a good two minutes as I repeatedly tried to fight them off and deactive it.  Not a single chance was given to me, even after using 3 Hydras...

But hey.  Its still fun for a few rounds every now and again.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...

LOL yeah.  Everyone complains about the geth stagger.  They said they'd look into it.  What did they do?  Added 2 NEW ways for them to stagger.  One of which even staggers the kroguard, which was previously immune to geth stagger.  Stupidity like that is why I say ME3 MP is garbage.

Not like you're forced to play against Geth, but I get your point. Maybe we should discuss ME3 getting best cinematography instead?

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

At least you're no longer kicking out everybody at random. Indeed, it is fixed.

Apperently that was my last ISP's fault.

But I still get horrendous lag sometimes, when some tart with a mousewheel for a model decides to host a game.  Not being able to shoot anything or even throw grenades is not fun.

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Actually, I imagine that they'd release a false trailer if an IT DLC would be released. Fans would otherwise probably be too pissed to buy it either way.

They could call it something like "Aftermath".  Would be a big transition DLC between ME3 and ME4, explaining how the two mesh together, what happens to all your squadmates, what happened to the Reapers, etc.

And mention nothing about Shepard being in it.  Or that its actually about Shepard's Indoctrination, and ME4 is a continuation of the war against the Reapers (with or without Shep).

Thus it wouldn't be lying in the adverts, and wouldn't reveal anything spoilerish!

Yeah, it'd be something like this

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:53 .

[Andromidius]

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Not like you're forced to play against Geth, but I get your point. Maybe we should discuss ME3 getting best cinematography instead?

Well if they ever fixed the exorcist-heads and weapon glitches...  I'd say totally deserved.

I mean all the hard work is in there, shame its ruined by glitches.

[Lokanaiya]

estebanus wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...
Literal ending is Literal ending(3 colors, space magic )
IT ending is just theory now
I like IT but it's just theory

In the way gravity is a theory...

Edit:

There's a huge difference between science and literature. In science, there is no word of god, while there is in literature. Plus, Occam's razor applies to science. 

If the IT were a theory just as much as gravity, more people would believe it. Gravity is proven, IT is not.

Gravity isn't "proven," because it never CAN be, it simply has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence and no other adequate explanation (so far) that would explain the events that occur around us. However, it can never be proven true since we can't see gravity itself, only its effects.

As for how the relates to IT, IT also has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence with no other adequate explanation that would explain the events in both the ending and throughout ME3. (In fact, the only other explanations given have a lot of evidence that points toward them being total BS) Hence, since the only way to "prove" IT is Word of God, it either is a scientific theory or is close enough to being one that that it is OK to call it such in common conversation.

/science nerd

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

Modifié par estebanus, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:56 .

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Why, did they fire Fagnan?

As much as I've been enjoying MP recently, I will say this.  It has serious issues - namely Geth being stagger-happy bastards who can quite often two shot a non-defensive character even on Silver, and certain weapons being utter garbage for no good reason.

Finally unlocked a decent N7 character though - the N7 Paladin Sentinel is pretty fun, very tech-spammy.  But again, its another Sentinel with no Biotics, which is just weird.

The N7s are amazing!

In ME1 classes were what types of powers that character used, in ME3 classes are what that character does. Sentinels are tanky, crowd control, team support kits, who generally have tech and biotics, but that's secondary.

[BansheeOwnage]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Gravity isn't "proven," because it never CAN be, it simply has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence and no other adequate explanation (so far) that would explain the events that occur around us. However, it can never be proven true since we can't see gravity itself, only its effects.

As for how the relates to IT, IT also has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence with no other adequate explanation that would explain the events in both the ending and throughout ME3. (In fact, the only other explanations given have a lot of evidence that points toward them being total BS) Hence, since the only way to "prove" IT is Word of God, it either is a scientific theory or is close enough to being one that that it is OK to call it such in common conversation.

/science nerd

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

That's not the point of IT though, the point is to indoctrinate the players, or rather, test them with it. Bioware is clearly doing everything their way, at their own pace, and EC aside, they're not going to let fans' opinions dictate their plans.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 09 décembre 2012 - 02:58 .

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

At least you're no longer kicking out everybody at random. Indeed, it is fixed.

Apperently that was my last ISP's fault.

But I still get horrendous lag sometimes, when some tart with a mousewheel for a model decides to host a game.  Not being able to shoot anything or even throw grenades is not fun.

It happens but I guess it's Achilles' heel would be lost connections. However, even though they are frequent these days (especially during OPs), reconnecting to the servers does not usually require restarting the game like it used to.

[Andromidius]

Lokanaiya wrote...
Gravity isn't "proven," because it never CAN be, it simply has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence and no other adequate explanation (so far) that would explain the events that occur around us. However, it can never be proven true since we can't see gravity itself, only its effects.

As for how the relates to IT, IT also has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence with no other adequate explanation that would explain the events in both the ending and throughout ME3. (In fact, the only other explanations given have a lot of evidence that points toward them being total BS) Hence, since the only way to "prove" IT is Word of God, it either is a scientific theory or is close enough to being one that that it is OK to call it such in common conversation.

/science nerd

Same reason why technically speaking nothing can be proven 100% because we're only experiencing the universe how our ape-minds interperate the signals it receives from our senses.

Its one of the few situations where I think a bit of 'blind faith' is required to actually function.  Otherwise I'd be sitting down and poundering whether the world even exists, and I'm not just a brain in a jar being jolted full of lies.

/science and pseudo-philosophy nerd

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

That not the point of IT though, the point is to indoctrinate the players, or rather, test them with it.

It doesn't help to indoctrinate the players when the players simply made their peace with ME3, called it bullsh*t and moved on. 

[BleedingUranium]

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
It's simple but fun and engaging. Challenging Frustrating too.

And fixed!

At least you're no longer kicking out everybody at random. Indeed, it is fixed.

Apperently that was my last ISP's fault.

But I still get horrendous lag sometimes, when some tart with a mousewheel for a model decides to host a game.  Not being able to shoot anything or even throw grenades is not fun.

It happens but I guess it's Achilles' heel would be lost connections. However, even though they are frequent these days (especially during OPs), reconnecting to the servers does not usually require restarting the game like it used to.

AFAIK the disconnect thing is a PC issue.

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...
The N7s are amazing!

Well the Paladin is certainly fun.  But mega fragile if I can't raise my shield quickly enough to block an incoming attack!

And its hilarious setting off chain biotic explosions with Snap-Freeze and Incinerate.  Just fabulous.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

Unless it wasn't done, yeah.

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

That's not the point of IT though, the point is to indoctrinate the players, or rather, test them with it. Bioware is clearly doing everything their way, at their own pace, and EC aside, they're not going to let fans' opinions dictate their plans.

It doesn't help to indoctrinate the players when the players simply made their peace with ME3, called it bullsh*t and moved on. 

It does if they don't pick Destroy.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 09 décembre 2012 - 03:02 .

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Why, did they fire Fagnan?

As much as I've been enjoying MP recently, I will say this.  It has serious issues - namely Geth being stagger-happy bastards who can quite often two shot a non-defensive character even on Silver, and certain weapons being utter garbage for no good reason.

Finally unlocked a decent N7 character though - the N7 Paladin Sentinel is pretty fun, very tech-spammy.  But again, its another Sentinel with no Biotics, which is just weird.

The N7s are amazing!

In ME1 classes were what types of powers that character used, in ME3 classes are what that character does. Sentinels are tanky, crowd control, team support kits, who generally have tech and biotics, but that's secondary.

Well, destroyer and demolisher WERE amazing.  Until Fagnan ruined them.  Because when the playerbase is complaining about the game being too difficult, the obvious thing to do is to look at the stats and see what the 2 most popular classes are and nerf their asses.

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

That not the point of IT though, the point is to indoctrinate the players, or rather, test them with it.

It doesn't help to indoctrinate the players when the players simply made their peace with ME3, called it bullsh*t and moved on. 

It does if they don't pick Destroy.

...which almost everyone has, IT or not. That'd mean the people BioWare would be targeting would have to be a very small minority, one that actually isn't worth wasting a penny on, since these people mostly liked their original endings.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Except that making DLC costs craploads of money, especially if it'd be something big like the IT DLC. You can bet your ass neither EA nor BioWare would want to lose another penny after the EC.

If I were an optimist I'd say the MP transactions would help pay for it.

And are you one? 

BioWare wants to make money, not not win anything or lose money after making a game.

I'm more of a realist in most cases. I understand what you mean, I just hope they are looking at the long-term here. Because not even ME fans are looking forward to frakking ME4. That should tell them something.

I think if they'd have thought about the long-term consequences, they'd have released an IT DLC when the hype was highest, not when it had all but died out.

Unless it wasn't done, yeah.

If it weren't finished, I think they'd have dropped pretty big hints at the IT being true so that many more would become part of it.

EDIT: Top!

Modifié par estebanus, 09 décembre 2012 - 03:04 .

[Lokanaiya]

Andromidius wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...
Gravity isn't "proven," because it never CAN be, it simply has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence and no other adequate explanation (so far) that would explain the events that occur around us. However, it can never be proven true since we can't see gravity itself, only its effects.

As for how the relates to IT, IT also has an enormous amount of evidence to prove its existence with no other adequate explanation that would explain the events in both the ending and throughout ME3. (In fact, the only other explanations given have a lot of evidence that points toward them being total BS) Hence, since the only way to "prove" IT is Word of God, it either is a scientific theory or is close enough to being one that that it is OK to call it such in common conversation.

/science nerd

Same reason why technically speaking nothing can be proven 100% because we're only experiencing the universe how our ape-minds interperate the signals it receives from our senses.

Its one of the few situations where I think a bit of 'blind faith' is required to actually function.  Otherwise I'd be sitting down and poundering whether the world even exists, and I'm not just a brain in a jar being jolted full of lies.

/science and pseudo-philosophy nerd

Agreed. I weirded myself out the other day when I stopped and actually thought about how our senses of sight, taste, touch, EVERYTHING are nothing more than electric signals in our brain.