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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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RavenEyry

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estebanus wrote...
This has already been debunked ages ago, I seem to recall. It was just a glitch, because at other people, that didn't happen.

Why does it come at all though? It makes no sense at any point of the game.

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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hmmm... "stop - crime against nature"
Stop being red so, "Destroy - crime against nature"
"Destroy - Reapers"
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Hooray for batman logic!

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RavenEyry wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hmmm... "stop - crime against nature"
Stop being red so, "Destroy - crime against nature"
"Destroy - Reapers"
Posted ImageIT confermed!Posted Image

Hooray for batman logic!


Heh.  Nice.

So that's what the sign number means?  Anyone able to confirm with an article?

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The Illusive Man in an e-mail: "They put a package and I delivered it to the Normandy." TIM found a new job as a courier.

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Andromidius wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Oh yeah, did anyone ever figure out why after the destroy ending we get a message from Kaidan/Ashley saying "I'll come down see you" or something?

Because...that's kinda a big deal if it is not just a glitch


What?  I don't know about this.


After beating the game, if you had that datapad app, you would receive mail from either Ash or Kaidan saying the following:

Ash: Hey, Skipper. They might actually let me see you today. Hang in there.

Kaidan: Hey, Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today--if they let me. Here's hoping.


People have always said these messages were meant to be sent either right at the beginning, or when the VS is in the hospital, but neither makes any sense.

If meant to be sent at the beginning, the VS clearly had no plans to visit Shepard, and from what we could see, hadnt been in contact with Shepard at all.

If meant to be sent when the VS is in the hospital, they worded it all wrong, as it sounds like Shepard is the one who they plan on visiting, and at no point has the hospital staff ever stopped us from seeing either Ash or Kaidan. Plus, Ash telling Shep to 'hang in there' is sort of odd.

Basically, it seems like a message sent to a Shepard who is in the hospital, and you only get it after beating the game.

Its just all around weird.

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Andromidius wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Hmmm... "stop - crime against nature"
Stop being red so, "Destroy - crime against nature"
"Destroy - Reapers"
Posted ImageIT confermed!Posted Image

Hooray for batman logic!


Heh.  Nice.

So that's what the sign number means?  Anyone able to confirm with an article?


That seven ate nine joke? Or something similar to it.. maybe, it's fun to dig into these kind of symbolism though. 

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byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Oh yeah, did anyone ever figure out why after the destroy ending we get a message from Kaidan/Ashley saying "I'll come down see you" or something?

Because...that's kinda a big deal if it is not just a glitch


What?  I don't know about this.


After beating the game, if you had that datapad app, you would receive mail from either Ash or Kaidan saying the following:

Ash: Hey, Skipper. They might actually let me see you today. Hang in there.

Kaidan: Hey, Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today--if they let me. Here's hoping.


People have always said these messages were meant to be sent either right at the beginning, or when the VS is in the hospital, but neither makes any sense.

If meant to be sent at the beginning, the VS clearly had no plans to visit Shepard, and from what we could see, hadnt been in contact with Shepard at all.

If meant to be sent when the VS is in the hospital, they worded it all wrong, as it sounds like Shepard is the one who they plan on visiting, and at no point has the hospital staff ever stopped us from seeing either Ash or Kaidan. Plus, Ash telling Shep to 'hang in there' is sort of odd.

Basically, it seems like a message sent to a Shepard who is in the hospital, and you only get it after beating the game.

Its just all around weird.

Well if the IT dlc starts with Shepard in the hospital, then we'll know.

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Aye that is weird.

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paxxton wrote...

The Illusive Man in an e-mail: "They put a package and I delivered it to the Normandy." TIM found a new job as a courier.


Paxxton man!
I read your UNIT-theory and I think it points somewhere. Because somehow I find EDI to be the most suspicious character of all, especially there at cerberus base. And just earlier people are discussing about normandy voice, of which only EDI can make a voice came out of nowhere.

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Andromidius wrote...

Aye that is weird.

Everything is weird, we can only speculate as to why it's weird.

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After discovering that the low EMS endings STILL let you win last night, I noticed another thing.. in Control, some of your crew does survive, as opposed to none of them in Destroy. But yet you had really low EMS anyway so what makes Control so special where they survive?

Unless of course that's part of the plan to make Control look good.

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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

byne wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Oh yeah, did anyone ever figure out why after the destroy ending we get a message from Kaidan/Ashley saying "I'll come down see you" or something?

Because...that's kinda a big deal if it is not just a glitch


What?  I don't know about this.


After beating the game, if you had that datapad app, you would receive mail from either Ash or Kaidan saying the following:

Ash: Hey, Skipper. They might actually let me see you today. Hang in there.

Kaidan: Hey, Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today--if they let me. Here's hoping.


People have always said these messages were meant to be sent either right at the beginning, or when the VS is in the hospital, but neither makes any sense.

If meant to be sent at the beginning, the VS clearly had no plans to visit Shepard, and from what we could see, hadnt been in contact with Shepard at all.

If meant to be sent when the VS is in the hospital, they worded it all wrong, as it sounds like Shepard is the one who they plan on visiting, and at no point has the hospital staff ever stopped us from seeing either Ash or Kaidan. Plus, Ash telling Shep to 'hang in there' is sort of odd.

Basically, it seems like a message sent to a Shepard who is in the hospital, and you only get it after beating the game.

Its just all around weird.

Well if the IT dlc starts with Shepard in the hospital, then we'll know.

"I'll come down see you." Maybe Shepard works as a pencil pusher in Kaidan's/Ash's business.

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That was weird - finished the Geth consensus mission... Had a talk with Joker about whether or not Shepard really got out and how would he know. The strange thins - EDI did NOT say "Ican confirm this is the real world" thing.
And I took her to that mission as a squadmate!

I'm scared. ))

Modifié par demersel, 09 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .


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IronSabbath88 wrote...

After discovering that the low EMS endings STILL let you win last night, I noticed another thing.. in Control, some of your crew does survive, as opposed to none of them in Destroy. But yet you had really low EMS anyway so what makes Control so special where they survive?

Unless of course that's part of the plan to make Control look good.

Especially since in Control...
"You will lose everything you have."
And in Destroy...
"You will lose no more than what has already been lost."

The child said it, not me.

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Yes, real speculatings! :D

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401 Kill wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

After discovering that the low EMS endings STILL let you win last night, I noticed another thing.. in Control, some of your crew does survive, as opposed to none of them in Destroy. But yet you had really low EMS anyway so what makes Control so special where they survive?

Unless of course that's part of the plan to make Control look good.


Especially since in Control...
"You will lose everything you have."  

And in Destroy...
"You will lose no more than what has already been lost."

The child said it, not me.



control - loss of everything including your free will.
destroy - it ends right now.

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Who said Omega wouldn't spark more speculation?

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demersel wrote...

That was weird - finished the Geth consensus mission... Had a talk with Joker about whether or not Shepard really got out and how would he know. The strange thins - EDI did NOT say "Ican confirm this is the real world" thing.
And I took her to that mission as a squadmate!

I'm scared. ))


WHAT?!! damn I just uninstalled ME3, now I have to install it again to see that one.

edit: seriously man, I got chill running down me back now. Try loading your save and see it again just to be sure?
I'm even more suspicious of EDI now.

Modifié par tangythang, 09 décembre 2012 - 08:35 .


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401 Kill wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

After discovering that the low EMS endings STILL let you win last night, I noticed another thing.. in Control, some of your crew does survive, as opposed to none of them in Destroy. But yet you had really low EMS anyway so what makes Control so special where they survive?

Unless of course that's part of the plan to make Control look good.

Especially since in Control...
"You will lose everything you have."
And in Destroy...
"You will lose no more than what has already been lost."

The child said it, not me.


So... you'll lose ALL OF YOUR MINDS instead of just the little bit of your mind you already lost. Heh.

Any parallel word structure in the synth ending? I'd look it up myself but I'll end up youtubing things for 2 hours if I do that. 

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RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...
This has already been debunked ages ago, I seem to recall. It was just a glitch, because at other people, that didn't happen.

Why does it come at all though? It makes no sense at any point of the game.

It was supposed to be at the beginning of the game, when Shepard is in alliance custody.

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estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...
This has already been debunked ages ago, I seem to recall. It was just a glitch, because at other people, that didn't happen.

Why does it come at all though? It makes no sense at any point of the game.

It was supposed to be at the beginning of the game, when Shepard is in alliance custody.


Except that makes zero sense.

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Krimzie wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

After discovering that the low EMS endings STILL let you win last night, I noticed another thing.. in Control, some of your crew does survive, as opposed to none of them in Destroy. But yet you had really low EMS anyway so what makes Control so special where they survive?

Unless of course that's part of the plan to make Control look good.

Especially since in Control...
"You will lose everything you have."
And in Destroy...
"You will lose no more than what has already been lost."

The child said it, not me.


So... you'll lose ALL OF YOUR MINDS instead of just the little bit of your mind you already lost. Heh.

Any parallel word structure in the synth ending? I'd look it up myself but I'll end up youtubing things for 2 hours if I do that. 


From what I've seen, Synthesis always seems to be "Look! Everyone lives happily! Good job Shepard!"

Yeah..

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Javik has some interesting mail from the datapad app.

Foolish. You allowed a machine access to your mind? What if it infected you?

The other species are too optimistic. Reapers can't be wished away. Hope did not save my people.

Let those mutated asari be a warning against failure. The whole galaxy could end the same.

And this one, because it is awesome:

Thresher maws have gotten much bigger. Too big to ride now. A shame.

Modifié par byne, 09 décembre 2012 - 08:43 .


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so which of these does synthesis in ME3 apply to?

Chemical synthesis, the execution of chemical reactions to form a more complex molecule from chemical precursors
Organic synthesis, the chemical synthesis of organic compounds
Total synthesis, the complete organic synthesis of complex organic compounds, usually without the aid of biological processes
Convergent synthesis or linear synthesis, a strategy to improve the efficiency of multi-step chemical syntheses
Dehydration synthesis, a chemical synthesis resulting in the loss of a water molecule
Paal–Knorr synthesis, a chemical reaction named after Carl Paal and Ludwig Knorr
Biosynthesis, the creation of an organic compound in a living organism, usually aided by enzymes
Photosynthesis, a biochemical reaction using a carbon molecule to produce an organic molecule, using sunlight as a catalyst
Chemosynthesis, the synthesis of biological compounds into organic waste, using methane or an oxidized molecule as a catalyst
Amino acid synthesis, the synthesis of an amino acid from its constituents*
Peptide synthesis, the biochemical synthesis of peptides using amino acids
Protein biosynthesis, the multi-step biochemical synthesis of proteins (long peptides)
DNA synthesis, several biochemical processes for making DNA
DNA replication, DNA biosynthesis in vivo
Synthesis (cell cycle)
RNA synthesis, the synthesis of RNA from nucleic acids, using another nucleic acid chain as a template
ATP synthesis, the biochemical synthesis of ATP

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estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...
This has already been debunked ages ago, I seem to recall. It was just a glitch, because at other people, that didn't happen.

Why does it come at all though? It makes no sense at any point of the game.

It was supposed to be at the beginning of the game, when Shepard is in alliance custody.

...Which makes no sense. As was my point.