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[masster blaster]

Looking forward to it Freddy.

[BlazingZephyr]

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I have a special treat for all ITers. It will be up on youtube soon.
I'll inform you all when its uploaded.
It will move you and make you cry.

*Hasn't seen this guy before* Is he a troll or legit? Masster sort of answered that.

Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 07 août 2012 - 05:17 .

[Hrothdane]

KevShep wrote...

Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".

He does not look at TIM when he says this(go and look, he doesnt), he looks at the camera (player) and says it and puts more on the word "you".

Whoa, excellent point. I need to watch that scene again now.

[Leonia]

byne wrote...

I still think the hallucination starts at the transport crash. Maybe the Reapers left mines in the road? Would explain why an explosion came from below, like Loka claims it should have, plus, the area where the transport crashed is pretty dark, and has rubble that kind of looks like the rubble in the breath scene:

Interesting idea about the mines but even if the current position of the Mako is quite dark, the way up to the beam is clearly illuminated. But doesn't it feel.. I don't know.. too convenient that the beam is right there with no obstructions? It seems a lot closer than it really is. And there's just something iconic about that moment where they stop to get out and look at the beam before charginging in. I got the impression from the trailer when Liara says "This is it" that that was the beginning of something, not the end (or the beginning of the end). Or something big was about to be revealed and as strange as the Catalyst was, it didn't feel like much of a revelation.

Also, there's much more wreckage in the foreground than further ahead, which is consistent with Shepard falling backwards.

Modifié par leonia42, 07 août 2012 - 05:19 .

[BlazingZephyr]

Hrothdane wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".

He does not look at TIM when he says this(go and look, he doesnt), he looks at the camera (player) and says it and puts more on the word "you".

Whoa, excellent point. I need to watch that scene again now.

I think the IT documentary mentions this somewhere. It could be another video; not sure.

[Nightingale]

TheConstantOne wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

Some speculation for everyone. This goes back to the whole Crucible is a trap concept but gives a new take on what "the Catalyst" is.

What if the Reapers deliberately designed the Crucible to augment some component of the Citadel? They would leave past civilizations intact so that, when they invaded, intelligent life would attempt to use the Crucible to save themselves. The thing is, the Crucible is just an extension of the Citadel for some hidden reason. The Reapers true purpose is to build something with the Citadel, but they need intelligent life of variable DNA to make it work. Thus far, no species has been a successful ingredient...until humans came along.

The hypothesis here is that the Catalyst for the Crucible is not the Citadel nor a strange glowing child hologram AI, but rather ***a species***. I'm thinking that the Catalyst just may be humanity.

So, what do you all think about this?

Just reposting this because I think it got overlooked earlier.  I know that some have suggested that Shepard is the Catalyst, but the main idea of this post is to illustrate that HUMANITY might be the Catalyst

That would explain why the Star-git pushes for Synthesis so much.

byne wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

Sort of off topic:
So, I exited to the Campaign Discussion page and decide to go ahead and
count how many IT-hate/ridicule comments I could find on the first
pages of threads of the front discussion page. It wasn't pretty: 1-2
full threads making fun of/against IT, and over 75 IT-ridicule comments.
Those are just on first pages. Damn, are we hated.

How dare we interpret a game differently than they do!

This is serious buisness, you know! There must be only one way to think of it and no way it wouldn't be totally obvious so of coure they're right!

[FreddyCast]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I have a special treat for all ITers. It will be up on youtube soon.
I'll inform you all when its uploaded.
It will move you and make you cry.

*Hasn't seen this guy before* Is he a troll or legit? Masster sort of answered that.

Don't worry I'm legit.
I'm the one who made the IT/EC analysis vids.

[BlazingZephyr]

FreddyCast wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

FreddyCast wrote...

Hey guys, I have a special treat for all ITers. It will be up on youtube soon.
I'll inform you all when its uploaded.
It will move you and make you cry.

*Hasn't seen this guy before* Is he a troll or legit? Masster sort of answered that.

Don't worry I'm legit.
I'm the one who made the IT/EC analysis vids.

Yeah, sorry. I just didn't want some douche to come in here and post some troll anti-IT video.

[Leonia]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Hey Guys, just letting you all know I'm still here... after my left temper tantrum I'm crawling back into the forum doing walk of shame. Wait, otters have no shame, nm.

You guys were talking about the weapon bob at the end of ME3 and I always found that weird also. Then I started watching the play-demo of Leviathan DLC  on Gamespot, the weapon bob is similar to the weapon bob Shepard has during the Leviathan demo, same type of Bob. Of course this bob is caused by the ocean currents, but could it be a reference?

Hey Otter, missed you!

I was pointing out when the trailer first came out that the shuttle crash in the Leviathan trailer looked every familiar and now you're bringing up the weapon bob (can't we come up with a better term for that, bob just makes me think of a really short hair style).. wouldn't it be interesting if there are other such parallels in Leviathan, maybe they mean something, maybe they don't but it would be something to keep an eye out for.

[masster blaster]

Blazing and if they do so what. Let them. I say once we regain our evidence/speculations together. We post it on the anti threads and give them a post they will never forget. Also we maybe few, but so long as one of us is standing after Bioware may comfirm IT. It would still be a victory.

[KevShep]

leonia42 wrote...

byne wrote...

I still think the hallucination starts at the transport crash. Maybe the Reapers left mines in the road? Would explain why an explosion came from below, like Loka claims it should have, plus, the area where the transport crashed is pretty dark, and has rubble that kind of looks like the rubble in the breath scene:

Interesting idea about the mines but even if the current position of the Mako is quite dark, the way up to the beam is clearly illuminated. But doesn't it feel.. I don't know.. too convenient that the beam is right there with no obstructions? It seems a lot closer than it really is. And there's just something iconic about that moment where they stop to get out and look at the beam before charginging in. I got the impression from the trailer when Liara says "This is it" that that was the beginning of something, not the end (or the beginning of the end). Or something big was about to be revealed and as strange as the Catalyst was, it didn't feel like much of a revelation.

Also, there's much more wreckage in the foreground than further ahead, which is consistent with Shepard falling backwards.

I thought it was the big gun that Cerberus found that took out that derelict reaper in ME2 when I first heard it.

[BlazingZephyr]

masster blaster wrote...

Blazing and if they do so what. Let them. I say once we regain our evidence/speculations together. We post it on the anti threads and give them a post they will never forget. Also we maybe few, but so long as one of us is standing after Bioware may comfirm IT. It would still be a victory.

That sounds like it would cause more problems than it would solve.

[KevShep]

Hrothdane wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".

He does not look at TIM when he says this(go and look, he doesnt), he looks at the camera (player) and says it and puts more on the word "you".

Whoa, excellent point. I need to watch that scene again now.

here it is...Its 50 seconds in.

Modifié par KevShep, 07 août 2012 - 05:30 .

[Leonia]

And thinking more on the "This is it", if it is to be taken in the literal context and Liara knows Shepard is about make a choice and probably die.. how does she know?!

For that matter, why is everyone so convinced at FOB that the end is coming up? Nobody knows what that beam does, only that it's ominous. I didn't get such a long string of emotional goodbyes before the Suicide Mission and we knew that was meant to end badly for the entire plot (they did keep calling it a suicide mission).

Always feels like something big is missing during Priority: Earth, something we aren't privy to but everyone else is.

Modifié par leonia42, 07 août 2012 - 05:32 .

[Lokanaiya]

DrTsoni wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

So, apparently we need more things to speculate on? I have some, but it would be nice if we got some discussion going about it... it's very annoying when you type up posts with new information and they never get responded to.

Anyways, one of my things to speculate on would be how Shepard ended up in the position he's in in the breath scene. As far as I know, the only way for him to be in that position would either be a very conveniently-placed explosion (Looks like it would have to be a bit under him beforehand) or someone dragging him up there and then going out of the camera range, perhaps to fight off Reaper forces. Thoughts?

Later, if we still need speculative material, we can try to determine exactly what was real and what was in Shepard's head. (There's more odd things that don't make much sense than you'd think.)

If it's the blast from Harbinger, it's possible she'd land on her back. The problem is that there wasn't any rubble directly behind her.

Possible, but:

1. The blast from Harbinger might throw Shepard back (although it's unclear how, since it's more of a "disintegrate things" laser.) but not at an angle that would make Shepard land like he is in the breath scene without him first banging something pretty hard.

2. There's a lot of evidence to point towards the dream beginning at the MAKO crash, if not earlier. For instance, the while halo, which is only used for transistions in dreams, appears right after Harbinger shoots Shepard.

That was my problem, too. But if the hallucination does start at that, it'd still knock Shepard back instead of disintigrating her because she's obviously not a pile of ash in the breath scene. Your second point is, of course, very viable, but if it starts at the Mako crash, why does the halo-like transition only appear after Harby shoots Shepard instead of before? I think I may have missed part of that theory so that's an honest question, not a critisism.
Byne made a great point about the rubble, too, so that would support it. I have to admit, I like the idea of that even more with the added Normandy scene - Shepard saying goodbye in his/her mind to those that stood with him/her in the end.

The white halo only appears for dream-to-dream or dream-to-reality transistions, as the geth consensus mission shows. I'm not really sure where else it would appear.

And guys, instead of moaning about the reputation of IT, how about we work towards fixing our chronic off-topicness and speculate some? Like the evidence and thought-provoking material that I've posted several times but that frequently gets ignored for other off-topic conversations....

OK, i really can't keep my eyes open any longer, so I'm going to go to sleep. i gave you guys stuff to speculate on, and if you can't think of anything else to discuss, maybe you could try and figure out what is real and what is not in London, since there's odd things in the FOB like James magically appearing when you go down the first ladder but not being there beforehand or Wrex saying that someone should go ask the quarians for some food since all the turian food gave him the runs. Maybe you could come up with a reason for why paintings from Kasumi's loyalty mission appear in London or why Coates tries to walk into a pit after your first conversation with him at the FOB. But for goodness's sakes, stop complaining about there being nothing to speculate on when there is still a lot that has, at most, only been mentioned in passing.

....OK, I'm exhausted (is it really that obvious? ) and I'm going to go to sleep now.

[masster blaster]

[quote]BlazingZephyr wrote...

[quote]masster blaster wrote...

Blazing and if they do so what. Let them. I say once we regain our evidence/speculations together. We post it on the anti threads and give them a post they will never forget. Also we maybe few, but so long as one of us is standing after Bioware may comfirm IT. It would still be a victory.[/quote]

That sounds like it would cause more problems than it would solve.

[/quote                                                                                                                                               it would, but i think we should if they hit us hard at home. only if they do strike first, but hey why not launch a full on counter strik on the literalsit. jk no it would cause more harm than good, but once most off bsn are literalist, then they will strike us hard, and not just this thread, but all it threads including wnt.]

[masster blaster]

Night loka.

[BlazingZephyr]

KevShep wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".

He does not look at TIM when he says this(go and look, he doesnt), he looks at the camera (player) and says it and puts more on the word "you".

Whoa, excellent point. I need to watch that scene again now.

here it is...Its 50 seconds in.

While you're at it, go to 1:22. The Shadows, man! It's so obvious!

EDIT: I had the wrong "your." I am so ashamed.

Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 07 août 2012 - 05:37 .

[byne]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

While you're at it, go to 1:22. The Shadows, man! It's so obvious!

EDIT: I had the wrong "your." I am so ashamed.

You had the wrong one here, too.

I didnt wanna say anything...

[Arian Dynas]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Another similarity with Saren. The council refered to him as charismatic. But wait. Saren is a renegade. Generally Paragon individuals are charismatic...

WRONG.

Paragons are DIPLOmatic, meaning that they seek diplomacy, reaching a compromise between two individuals, using words to get out of a situation.

CHARISmatic individuals are merely those with a strong force of personality, those who can convince others to their point of veiw or attract followers.

[BlazingZephyr]

byne wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

While you're at it, go to 1:22. The Shadows, man! It's so obvious!

EDIT: I had the wrong "your." I am so ashamed.

You had the wrong one here, too.

I didnt wanna say anything...

*Cring* Oh, damn... Yeah, say something please. I'm a grammar **** hardcore. That's just humiliating.

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Another
similarity with Saren. The council refered to him as charismatic. But
wait. Saren is a renegade. Generally Paragon individuals are
charismatic...

WRONG.

Paragons are DIPLOmatic,
meaning that they seek diplomacy, reaching a compromise between two
individuals, using words to get out of a situation.

CHARISmatic
individuals are merely those with a strong force of personality, those
who can convince others to their point of veiw or attract followers.

I said something along those lines earlier.

Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 07 août 2012 - 05:47 .

[byne]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

byne wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

While you're at it, go to 1:22. The Shadows, man! It's so obvious!

EDIT: I had the wrong "your." I am so ashamed.

You had the wrong one here, too.

I didnt wanna say anything...

*Cring* Oh, damn... Yeah, say something please. I'm a grammar **** hardcore. That's just humiliating.

Since the word you tried to use is censored for no reason, we tend to use the phrase 'Grammar National Socialist'

[BlazingZephyr]

byne wrote...

Since the word you tried to use is censored for no reason, we tend to use the phrase 'Grammar National Socialist'

That is fraking hilarious. Why on earth....? Nevermind, I don't want to know. I'm just gonna leave this:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[Leonia]

Exciting news for music fans, it appears the duo that wrote Arrival's music are doing the music for Leviathan. It is bound to be epic.

[FreddyCast]

BlazingZephyr wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".

He does not look at TIM when he says this(go and look, he doesnt), he looks at the camera (player) and says it and puts more on the word "you".

Whoa, excellent point. I need to watch that scene again now.

here it is...Its 50 seconds in.

While you're at it, go to 1:22. The Shadows, man! It's so obvious!

EDIT: I had the wrong "your." I am so ashamed.

I want to say something about this "they're controllin you" proof.
While I'm an ITer, this proof does not work for me. While the camera angle might look like Anderson is looking at Shepard. He is in fact not. That camera angle does not represent where Shepard is. Anderson is merely looking at TIM in an awkward angle b/c he is having a hard time moving his body since TIM is controlling his movements.
Take a look at this vid at around 9:30
www.youtube.com/watch