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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Huh in the QEC room, what I thought was music is not

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I think of the 'Catalyst'/Harbinger as this.... :ph34r: youtu.be/8U5ddSchEOI (watch from the mark, til the end)

Die you screwed up murderer die. Just because your daddy Leviathans messed up on your creation, doesn't mean you subject trillions to this BS.


EDIT: lol the lines are PERFECT for 'Catalyst'. Seriously guys, watch it. Pretend the P4 party is the ME3 party and Adachi is Harbinger.

"We saw the truth in things we never wanted to see, just to get here."

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Huh in the QEC room, what I thought was music is not


It actually sounds like a long slow higher octave horn

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Bill Casey wrote...

If the ending landscape is a representation of Shepard's brain, then Destroy is shooting himself in the head in his dream...
Implications. Unpleasant...



Zaeed gun shot to the head. Is alive. Shepard maybe.

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Bill Casey wrote...

If the ending landscape is a representation of Shepard's brain, then Destroy is shooting himself in the head in his dream...
Implications. Unpleasant...


True, but I'm hoping for it to all be metaphorical.

Synthesis - You fall for it, entirely
Control - You deny it, but have it rushing through you (indoctrination, I mean)
Destroy - You shoot the tubes powering it ;)

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Well that was unexpected. The reaper head still plays as a sound effect. It's not dialogue

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Huh in the QEC room, what I thought was music is not


It actually sounds like a long slow higher octave horn

surely not reaper horn?

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Has anyone pointed out that Aria runs straight ahead and jumps into a trap yet?

Jump!

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Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone pointed out that Aria runs straight ahead and jumps into a trap yet?

Jump!


People sabotage themselves in nefarious ways. Maybe she fears success

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Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone pointed out that Aria runs straight ahead and jumps into a trap yet?

Jump!


What if the Reapers are the prototypes for something greater?

What if Harbinger is seeking something very important from humanity/Shepard, in order to synthsize an improvement for/to the Reapers?

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Shuttle bay sounds like Earth a bit. Distant sounding Reapers crashing around with the distant tooting of their horns and that loud hum hummm hum hum hummmm

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dorktainian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Huh in the QEC room, what I thought was music is not


It actually sounds like a long slow higher octave horn

surely not reaper horn?


That's the only comparable thing I can say it sounds like.  Keep in mind I only have sound effects on.  I always thought what plays in there is music.  Then again, I always thought the war room the folks were talking guess they weren't

OMG the Normandy is cursed! LOL

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Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone pointed out that Aria runs straight ahead and jumps into a trap yet?

Jump!


I don't think I've read about that yet. I didn't even think of the jump, just of the control handles.

HOWEVER, remember that sound we were talking about in this vid at 3:19, like 12 hours ago?! Tell me that doesn't sound like the adjutant in that vid you posted. Perhaps they used the same animalistic sounds WITHOUT the Reaper filter, and it's all as simple as that, but still.

I love these sound engineers more and more.

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Illegal aphrodisiac, Reaper Horn...
I did take some Reaper Horn when I was in China...
Thirty minutes later, I was in****trinated...

Krimzie wrote...

I don't think I've read about that yet. I didn't even think of the jump, just of the control handles.

HOWEVER, remember that sound we were talking about in this vid at 3:19, like 12 hours ago?! Tell me that doesn't sound like the adjutant in that vid you posted. Perhaps they used the same animalistic sounds WITHOUT the Reaper filter, and it's all as simple as that, but still.

I love these sound engineers more and more.

Good god, you're right...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 10 décembre 2012 - 06:51 .


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Just watched some more of Ep 3 Choose Wisely.

Kept getting reminded of this song www.youtube.com/watch


Don't trust your eyes
It's easy to believe them
Know in your heart
That you can leave a prison


(Light the ways that free from the dusk)
Don't trust your mind
Its not always listening
Turn on the lights

And feel the ancient rhythm
Don't trust your eyes
It's easy to believe them (no one is to blame)
Know in your heart (as natural as the rain)
That you can leave your prison (here comes the Flood again)


Don't mind me, just waiting for Shepard to pull his Aria move of opening a way out that he didn't even know existed ;)

Modifié par SwobyJ, 10 décembre 2012 - 06:56 .


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Weird question...who on the Normandy smokes? There's a lit cigarette in the port observation room. No one is in it but one of the symbols is. Hear nothing but the game machine and an occasional kid laughing

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The windows are also a little odd. Some windows have the blue mass effect field yet some don't

EDIT - the windows are even on the same deck and even the same side of the ship from each other

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 10 décembre 2012 - 07:07 .


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another kid laugh, just creepy!

EDIT - so far all the sounds and weird things are happening at the signs.  I also found 3 inverted signs (so far).  Something white in the middle.  I can't make it out but the rest of it is still the same.

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SwobyJ wrote...

Synthesis - You fall for it, entirely
Control - You deny it, but have it rushing through you (indoctrination, I mean)
Destroy - You shoot the tubes powering it ;)


Speaking of shooting tubes. The Human Reaper requires you to shoot the tubes in order for it to fall. Any resemblence there?

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Hey ITers. I decided Id give you a tease on the project Im working on. This quote will be under the Manipulation Section so lets see if u think this sounds familiar:
"What's your emperor gonna think when you bring him a half-dead Homunculus? I doubt it's gonna do your clan much good. But you could go to Central. I mean, that's where you can learn the true way to achieve immortality. You can even help save all of these people's lives."-Envy
Well back to work. Should be done within a couple days.

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Speaking of shooting tubes. The Human Reaper requires you to shoot the tubes in order for it to fall. Any resemblence there?

And that's not the end of the fight.

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So here's my lil list of that symbol:

1 Outside the airlock accompanied by a warning falling sign.  Strange we never use the airlock like in ME1.  Standing in the airlock has a bit of a different ambience than just outside it

2 and 3 next to the door leading to the cockpit/airlock

4 and 5 opposite each other on the edges of the CIC
just after the staircase down

6 on the inside of the scanner room with the two privates. 
Strange just one on one side of the scanner

7 just outside the conference room next to a no step arrow sign

8 on the right wall of the crucible room (looking toward the scanner room/door)

9 and 10 on the left wall of the crucible room (looking toward the scanner room/door).  This area has the most "sound effects" and is just plain omg full of weird effects that stop the second you walk into the QEC or the scanner room.

11 in the QEC room.  Different pitch horn heard (symbol for reference)

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Inverted symbol 1 Inv in shuttle bay strangely no symbol like above found despite the weird sounds in there (will post a clear one of this down below)

12, 13, 14, 15 all below decks of Engineering where Jack was all in a square.  Strangely none in Engineering itself if it was fusion related.

16 on the right opposite wall of the memorial (if staring at the crew quarters elevator)

17 behind the couch in the port observations room with a lit cigarette on the table kid laughing too

18 around the corner from Chef's kitchen

19 around the corner from 18 in front of Liara's door
(strangely none in Liara's room)

Inverted symbol 2 Inv and 3 Inv on two yellow pods next to the stairs across from Chef's kitchen

20 and 21 on the opposite walls of each other if you take the right path if staring at the crew quarters elevator.  More kids laughing

Inverted symbol 4 Inv, 5 Inv, 6 Inv, 7 Inv 8 Inv next to each medical table in Dr. Chakwas' room.  This is the best picture I can get of one.  Why the alien language on an Alliance ship I don't know.  It's hard to see but it's actually two separate letters.

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Inverted symbol 9 Inv, 10 Inv, 11 Inv, 12 Inv 13 Inv all in the AI computer room

Inverted symbol 14 Inv, 15 Inv, 16 Inv, 17 Inv 18 Inv, 19 Inv, 20 Inv, 21 Inv all lining the stasis/sleep pods
(I wish they kept that from ME1)

Inverted symbol 22 Inv next to Garrus' feet in the Thanix cannon room


Soooo, so far I found 21 of the first symbol picture on the Normandy and nearly each of those has weird things going on next to or near them.

and 22 of the inverted symbols in the above picture (I'm calling it that since it looks inverted to me).  Nothing seems to happen next to those. 

There are none in Shepard's quarters, Javik's quarters, Life Support, Engineering upper decks, the men's room, Liara's room, Aller's room, the crew's quarters, and Ashley's room

Also what's fun is while doing this I crashed the game several times and so when I walked off the CIC galaxy map, I fell off, and Shepard drew an invisible gun for a second then realized he didn't need it and put his hands down.

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Guess everyone went to sleep after I just finished lol. 

Oh well, shamelessly promotes the poll by thanking everyone for coming up with some great material to solve this no win scenario.  Though so far I think Pur28 found the best way to save 'em all.  Everyone else is still ending up with one maybe 2.

By the way, a predictor of who you might save might be with this other poll I did with the LI and Joker  roughly 75% chose their love interest over their non-love interest.

I might do another of these when I kind of think of a good scenario for it.

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magnetite wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

Synthesis - You fall for it, entirely
Control - You deny it, but have it rushing through you (indoctrination, I mean)
Destroy - You shoot the tubes powering it ;)


Speaking of shooting tubes. The Human Reaper requires you to shoot the tubes in order for it to fall. Any resemblence there?


Of course. I've seen almost all this stuff :P

IMO so far, picking Destroy just means you're READY to do what you NEED to do, to destroy/defeat the Reapers. And this means:
-when it comes down to it, you'll sacrifice even up to the whole cycle in order to do it (though we get a lighter version of it with geth+EDI+maybeShep)
-it may result in you having to put that gun to your head to stop it. Just how it works.
-you'll have to reject any promise of advancement by the Reapers. They/TIM will tell you to use them, but you must reject it if you want to come out intact.

When you do the Suicide Mission (on a blind run at least), you do it knowing fully that everyone/anyone may die. You do it regardless, to stop the Collectors/Reapers. It doesn't mean that you'll lose anymore than the colonists on the Base, but the point is that you're/Shepard's PREPARED to lose people.

Shepard picking Control is the start of his corruption. Arrival makes it much more clear. Shepard actually agreeing to hold onto Reaper tech...

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Guess everyone went to sleep after I just finished lol. 

Oh well, shamelessly promotes the poll by thanking everyone for coming up with some great material to solve this no win scenario.  Though so far I think Fur28 found the best way to save 'em all.  Everyone else is still ending up with one maybe 2.

By the way, a predictor of who you might save might be with this other poll I did with the LI and Joker  roughly 75% chose their love interest over their non-love interest.

I might do another of these when I kind of think of a good scenario for it.


Just gonna leave my answer here for those lazy to look for it
"I would first activate Adrenaline(i can use another power) for a couple seconds extra, and run towards the bashee guns blazing left hended and killing her and freeing Liara, and throw a frag granade to the brute with my free right hand so it gets thrown out of balance ano Garrus can take the shot a kill it. The second after the granade was thrown i pick my pistol, again only right hended and use Carnage with my extra power to hit the ravager, Tali would obviously notice the ravager after that and run while leaving the drone to distract it.
Then we all escape in the shuttle and have a foursome, Sheard, Tali, Liara, Kasumi (didn´t i mention she was in the shuttle?) while Garrus films it "