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[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

No you weren't.

I was.

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

No you weren't.

I was.

Then why the argument about Dis if you weren't talking about it?

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

No you weren't.

I was.

Then why the argument about Dis if you weren't talking about it?

I was thinking about the fleshy creatures. In the dream Shepard had in ME1 the first UFO is a Leviathan (the fleshy one).

Modifié par paxxton, 10 décembre 2012 - 06:40 .

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...
In the dream Shepard had in ME1 the first UFO is a Leviathan (the fleshy one).

That requires the huge leap of assuming leviathans can fly.

[paxxton]

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

[byne]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...
In the dream Shepard had in ME1 the first UFO is a Leviathan (the fleshy one).

That requires the huge leap of assuming leviathans can fly.

One would assume they can, since that prehistoric art seems to show them doing so.

[Linkforlife]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...
In the dream Shepard had in ME1 the first UFO is a Leviathan (the fleshy one).

That requires the huge leap of assuming leviathans can fly.

One would assume they could considering they were/are the apex race of the galaxy, which I believe the Leviathans themselves state this.

[RavenEyry]

It's not impossible but I'm going to remain skeptical.

If they were lying about the reapers it's possible they created them as enforcers or similar. They may even still be working for the levies.

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

That's only assumed to be a Levaithan.  It could as easily be a Reaper. 

Not to mention artwork like that would be unlikely to last hundreds of millions of years.

[Samtheman63]

paxxton wrote...

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

wouldnt leviathans be in hiding?

and it sounds too much like a reaper or some form of reaper minion for me, "a single great eye opens on the underbelly, a glowing red orb. a finger of red light extends from the eye and engulfs you"

[Andromidius]

Also it could be symbolic, of the Leviathans being 'above' everyone else and worshipped from afar.

I very much doubt they'd be in even remote direct contact with primatives like that. If anything, its possibly the result of dreams caused by exposure to the Orbs/Reaper tech.

[Linkforlife]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

That's only assumed to be a Levaithan.  It could as easily be a Reaper. 

Not to mention artwork like that would be unlikely to last hundreds of millions of years.

Or it could be the people worshipping the Leviathans/Reapers. Placing the object/race in question above themselves as their deities/gods.

[cavs25]

byne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...
In the dream Shepard had in ME1 the first UFO is a Leviathan (the fleshy one).

That requires the huge leap of assuming leviathans can fly.

One would assume they can, since that prehistoric art seems to show them doing so.

But in the codex is states that they enthralled species to make them ships, which was an engineering nightmare because of their size and aquatic nature.

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

That's only assumed to be a Levaithan.  It could as easily be a Reaper. 

Not to mention artwork like that would be unlikely to last hundreds of millions of years.

Repears have 4 or 5 tentacles. This one has 3. Plus, the picture could be a painting from a more recent encounter.

[Andromidius]

Linkforlife wrote...
Or it could be the people worshipping the Leviathans/Reapers. Placing the object/race in question above themselves as their deities/gods.

Yep.

Even in more recent times, height in artwork is symbolic of power.  In a lot of medieval artwork the kings and nobles are giants compared to the common soldiers and peasents.

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...
Repears have 4 or 5 tentacles. This one has 3. Plus, the picture could be a painting from a more recent encounter.

They've been hiding pretty darn well.  If savages could find them, they aren't doing a good job...

[paxxton]

Samtheman63 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

There is a picture of a flying Leviathan when you follow the link.

paxxton wrote...

Byne, what's your opinion on this?

paxxton wrote...

Jusseb wrote...

I mean this one ; http://social.biowar.../index/15224788

Mind-blowing!!!

wouldnt leviathans be in hiding?

and it sounds too much like a reaper or some form of reaper minion for me, "a single great eye opens on the underbelly, a glowing red orb. a finger of red light extends from the eye and engulfs you"

It was mentioned in the context of Leviathan.

Also, they wouldn't sit at the floor of the ocean for millions of years. They must've gone out of hiding from time to time

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Repears have 4 or 5 tentacles. This one has 3. Plus, the picture could be a painting from a more recent encounter.

They've been hiding pretty darn well.  If savages could find them, they aren't doing a good job...

It was them who found the savages.

[Linkforlife]

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Repears have 4 or 5 tentacles. This one has 3. Plus, the picture could be a painting from a more recent encounter.

They've been hiding pretty darn well.  If savages could find them, they aren't doing a good job...

It is also a primitive 2D carving on a wall.

[RavenEyry]

RavenEyry wrote...

If they were lying about the reapers it's possible they created them as enforcers or similar. They may even still be working for the levies.

Okay, this idea's in my head now so I'm gonna expand it.

Idea: Reapers were purposely created by the leviathans
First off, this idea assumes the leviathans were not telling Shepard the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If you think they were, don't bother reading this because that's not the discussion I want to spark.

Right, we know that in their prime the leviathans had thralls build them ships. Presumably if they can fly (which I doubt) they can't survive in space. What if those ships they had built were the first reapers? The reapers would have sentience and a measure of free will, possibly with a mandate to create more of themselves when necessary. They would then enforce the leviathans will on the galaxy as the leviathans army, also transporting leviathans when necessary. Indoctrination and harvesting was used as a way to keep the galaxy under control. Possibly they rebelled at some point and overthrew their masters, and possibly they are still working for the leviathans.

[masster blaster]

I am not bying the whole Leviathans are the good guys/ told us everything. If the Citdal dlc is real/ Bioware is working on. Then you do realize that maybe we will go to the Reaper home world, and find out how they really came to be.

Just saying.

Also I agree with Raven. Leviathan was not telling us the whole truth. Think about it when Shepard asked about the crucible. Leviathan shifted his eyesto the conner of the ground. Symbolising when people lie their eyes shift to the grounf or up. Usally.

I still think the Crucible is a trap, as is the Citadle. Garrus even reminds us that The Citadle is a trap, and a long term of his enplorment.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hey guys, can somebody send me a link to DoomsdayDevice's quote thread or whatever it is. I'd appreciate it.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 10 décembre 2012 - 07:32 .

[MegumiAzusa]

So after starting my presumably failshep playthrough I like to bring up some points I did some thousand pages ago.

Something is not right with the Prothean beacon or where it was found. The place where it was found has that circuitry overlay like we see on Reapers and in Synthesis.
Exhibit A
The beacon itself does not.
Exhibit B

There is also something interesting going on with Eden Prime itself. When the Normandy approaches we see a giant fire.
Exhibit C
We know they try to keep the atmosphere as clean as possible etc, but such a fire would cause quite some fallout.
Ingame we see later Sovereigns footprint, though it would be very strange if it were the same.
Exhibit D

Additionally the beacon has a quite loud hum to it.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 10 décembre 2012 - 07:37 .

[Krimzie]

masster blaster wrote...

I am not bying the whole Leviathans are the good guys/ told us everything. If the Citdal dlc is real/ Bioware is working on. Then you do realize that maybe we will go to the Reaper home world, and find out how they really came to be.

I would love this. Actually, I'd even settle for a comic. I'm not entirely convinced that the Leviathans didn't try to synthesize with their machines on purpose -- for immortality, and for ultimate dominance over synethetics and organics alike. The directive they programmed the Reaper construct with is a good, logical, and infinite (potentially) cover for what is ultimately a desire to remain Apex, but I'm sure they didn't expect Harbinger to in turn wipe out the rest of the organic Leviathans that weren't part of his hybrid makeup. The danger of absolutes in programming.

I think the Reaper construct cannot seem to challenge the logic of its own programming because it's so circular! The construct will keep struggling to find a solution to its programmed paradigm that synthetics will always destroy organics. And like that meme, it's answer is to destroy organics before synthetics can destroy organics, because as Reapers, they're synthetics. It's a goofy meme but the idea behind it makes sense -- with every cycle, they're proving the paradigm that drives their own directive, so there's never a reason to challenge the logic. Self-fulfilled prophecy, cycle after the cycle.

Whoever programmed it is one clever bastard of a Leviathan. And I want to know about it.

Modifié par Krimzie, 10 décembre 2012 - 07:40 .

[Restrider]

Anyone else problems to go online on Origin?