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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dr JaMiN wrote...

Hey fellow IT-ers, I made a poll you might like. http://social.biowar...23/polls/37899/

Being satisfied with EC was the funniest. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm going to bed! Posted Image


It really was a difficult choice between being a big stupid jelly fish or being satisfied with the EC.

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starlitegirlx wrote...

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Theres a Tweet from Mark Gamble (is that his name?) that says we will be able to go to the new areas anytime. Hopefully we'll have something more reminiscent of ME1. I liked how much there was to explore in ME1's Citadel. 
ME3 needs more hub areas period. We need Illium and Omega. 


But ME3 has a core that is very time dependent. I had to follow a guideline so that I wouldn't miss the window of certain things and lower my EMS. I even had one written out somewhere that had when to go where and do what even for the things you grab off planets. I got about 6200  from it but had it in an email as where I saved it then lost it. BOO!

So this must be something that involves a clock stop of sorts for certain events (Grissom academy maybe the scientists but I'm not sure if they expire or how soon they do).

The timeline with expiring events added is something I have mixed feelings about. I think there's a realism to it that's cool, but it also takes about flexibility and becomes more like a  game that you follow event to event without the RPG choices, but since it's not a ton of those that are like that (Turchunka and Citadel Coup I think are the main ones), it's not much of an issue.

Just do any side mission as they come available instead of doing the Priority missions. No rush at all.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

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You have asked for speculations. I have provided them.

Either ****ING SPECULATE WITH WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED, or I'm pulling a Salient, and I'll leave.

You provide something and then you left anyway when you got responses. The point was?

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Ive always been wondering why Anderson (when hes talking to TIM while
under his control) looks at YOU and says "there controling YOU!".


There was also some hidden lines where TIM states "Don't fight it Shepard", "Don't waste your energy", "You can't win. Not while I'm in control". They're not in the game, but they can be found in the files in the installation folder.

TIM controlling Shepard? Well, Shepard did shoot Anderson, his best friend. Codex states indoctrination does have you betray your friends.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Another similarity with Saren. The council refered to him as charismatic. But wait. Saren is a renegade. Generally Paragon individuals are charismatic...


WRONG.

Paragons are DIPLOmatic, meaning that they seek diplomacy, reaching a compromise between two individuals, using words to get out of a situation.

CHARISmatic individuals are merely those with a strong force of personality, those who can convince others to their point of veiw or attract followers.

So since when does charm work without charisma?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Another similarity with Saren. The council refered to him as charismatic. But wait. Saren is a renegade. Generally Paragon individuals are charismatic...


WRONG.

Paragons are DIPLOmatic, meaning that they seek diplomacy, reaching a compromise between two individuals, using words to get out of a situation.

CHARISmatic individuals are merely those with a strong force of personality, those who can convince others to their point of veiw or attract followers.

So since when does charm work without charisma?


Both Paragons and Renegades can be charismatic. Paragons are diplomatic while Renegades are "get the **** out of my way" matic.

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dr JaMiN wrote...

Hey fellow IT-ers, I made a poll you might like. http://social.biowar...23/polls/37899/

Being satisfied with EC was the funniest. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm going to bed! Posted Image


Dammit Banshee, and I was going to ask you what you thought about the latest RvB episode!


I liked it a lot, one of my favourites this season. I'm happy we're finally back on track to finding out what happened to CT and why everyone thought Carolina was dead. I've got speculations for both. Gotta love that you can truely speculate about RvB Posted Image

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Another similarity with Saren. The council refered to him as charismatic. But wait. Saren is a renegade. Generally Paragon individuals are charismatic...


WRONG.

Paragons are DIPLOmatic, meaning that they seek diplomacy, reaching a compromise between two individuals, using words to get out of a situation.

CHARISmatic individuals are merely those with a strong force of personality, those who can convince others to their point of veiw or attract followers.

So since when does charm work without charisma?


My point being that Charisma is something that applies to both, it requires force of personality, charisma, to intimidate someone, just as much as it requires to charm someone.

Shepard is a charismatic individual no matter whether he is Paragon or Renegade.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

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You have asked for speculations. I have provided them.

Either ****ING SPECULATE WITH WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED, or I'm pulling a Salient, and I'll leave.

You provide something and then you left anyway when you got responses. The point was?


Silence was my assent, you managed to say what I was thinking so well, I had nothing left to say.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dr JaMiN wrote...

Hey fellow IT-ers, I made a poll you might like. http://social.biowar...23/polls/37899/

Being satisfied with EC was the funniest. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm going to bed! Posted Image


Dammit Banshee, and I was going to ask you what you thought about the latest RvB episode!


I liked it a lot, one of my favourites this season. I'm happy we're finally back on track to finding out what happened to CT and why everyone thought Carolina was dead. I've got speculations for both. Gotta love that you can truely speculate about RvB Posted Image


Did you watch it right after it came out or later? I hope later, since the version they put out on time (as well as two hours early for sponsors) sucked, since the sound was all messed up. Just watched it again a few minutes ago and the sounds were all better.

Whether or not Brandon's character screamed 'Ah! My robot arm!' when his arm got cut off determines which version you saw.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

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You have asked for speculations. I have provided them.

Either ****ING SPECULATE WITH WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED, or I'm pulling a Salient, and I'll leave.

You provide something and then you left anyway when you got responses. The point was?


Silence was my assent, you managed to say what I was thinking so well, I had nothing left to say.


You've been quiet a lot recently, Arian...

Are you plotting something?

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dr JaMiN wrote...

Hey fellow IT-ers, I made a poll you might like. http://social.biowar...23/polls/37899/

Being satisfied with EC was the funniest. Posted Image

Anyway, I'm going to bed! Posted Image


Dammit Banshee, and I was going to ask you what you thought about the latest RvB episode!


I liked it a lot, one of my favourites this season. I'm happy we're finally back on track to finding out what happened to CT and why everyone thought Carolina was dead. I've got speculations for both. Gotta love that you can truely speculate about RvB Posted Image


Did you watch it right after it came out or later? I hope later, since the version they put out on time (as well as two hours early for sponsors) sucked, since the sound was all messed up. Just watched it again a few minutes ago and the sounds were all better.

Whether or not Brandon's character screamed 'Ah! My robot arm!' when his arm got cut off determines which version you saw.


I heard that line, so I'm assuming that's the proper one. I love how well the musical themes are done, the Meta's theme, the Insurrectionists' theme, that theme from I can't remember where that plays when we first get back to the desert. Along with all the consistency with previous seasons, Reggie's knock-knock jokes, the part-shark line. That's what makes any series good, internal consistency.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

I heard that line, so I'm assuming that's the proper one. I love how well the musical themes are done, the Meta's theme, the Insurrectionists' theme, that theme from I can't remember where that plays when we first get back to the desert. Along with all the consistency with previous seasons, Reggie's knock-knock jokes, the part-shark line. That's what makes any series good, internal consistency.


Ah, good. You didnt get the one with the almost completely quiet fight scene. The early version almost ruined the fights for me.

Anyhow: Considering that he's survived an exploding oil platform and getting shot by a MAC cannon, I'm pretty sure Brandon's character will be back again.

Also, Maine is a total troll.

And I wonder if thats really the end of Blue ODST Freelancer?

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Not sure if anyone missed this stuff in ME2, but it pretty much spells out the ending to a T, including the words "warp reality", "dreams", and some other things.

Reaper Indoctrination video

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I heard that line, so I'm assuming that's the proper one. I love how well the musical themes are done, the Meta's theme, the Insurrectionists' theme, that theme from I can't remember where that plays when we first get back to the desert. Along with all the consistency with previous seasons, Reggie's knock-knock jokes, the part-shark line. That's what makes any series good, internal consistency.


Ah, good. You didnt get the one with the almost completely quiet fight scene. The early version almost ruined the fights for me.

Anyhow: Considering that he's survived an exploding oil platform and getting shot by a MAC cannon, I'm pretty sure Brandon's character will be back again.

Also, Maine is a total troll.

And I wonder if thats really the end of Blue ODST Freelancer?


I doubt MBG (Mysterious Blue Guy) died, as he only got hit in the shoulder. Considering what some other characters have been through...

Also, while answering questions recently they said they may or may not reveal MBG's identity and such this season, as they might go into it later. Later being maybe season 11.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I heard that line, so I'm assuming that's the proper one. I love how well the musical themes are done, the Meta's theme, the Insurrectionists' theme, that theme from I can't remember where that plays when we first get back to the desert. Along with all the consistency with previous seasons, Reggie's knock-knock jokes, the part-shark line. That's what makes any series good, internal consistency.


Ah, good. You didnt get the one with the almost completely quiet fight scene. The early version almost ruined the fights for me.

Anyhow: Considering that he's survived an exploding oil platform and getting shot by a MAC cannon, I'm pretty sure Brandon's character will be back again.

Also, Maine is a total troll.

And I wonder if thats really the end of Blue ODST Freelancer?


I doubt MBG (Mysterious Blue Guy) died, as he only got hit in the shoulder. Considering what some other characters have been through...

Also, while answering questions recently they said they may or may not reveal MBG's identity and such this season, as they might go into it later. Later being maybe season 11.


While we're speculating about characters, I still  want to know what happened to Georgia.

Seems implied that something went wrong with his jetpack, and he was never found.

Didnt that happen to Kurt in the Ghosts of Onyx book?

Maybe Georgia started Freelancer II!

Modifié par byne, 07 août 2012 - 09:48 .


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magnetite wrote...

Not sure if anyone missed this stuff in ME2, but it pretty much spells out the ending to a T, including the words "warp reality", "dreams", and some other things.

Reaper Indoctrination video


I know we've discussed this before, but very nice putting it all together for us in a video. Must save this one!

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Hanar - it may have taken him a long time but I didn't think it was any good. This doesnt mean I didn't understand it, just that I thought it was crap. You can knock me for my opinion and continue to believe the world revolves around you but that's probably not the most mature option. Of course, I have never shown maturity, as you've known me for my entire life, and not just on an I trendy discussion board you troll. Waste of space.


Funny how you always have to reply to me, ALWAYS, even though I'm such a "waste of space" and a "troll". Kinda ironic isn't it? Why are you spending so much time on replying to my every post if i'm such a "waste of space" and a "troll"?

You should listen to your superiors, like Byne. He/she is smarter than you.


I must be really getting under your skin, am I not? Or are you just the kind of immature person who always wants to have the last word and can't make a valid argument without slinging some foul language and insults at other people?

Your capablity of expressing yourself in a mature way is seriously lacking, which makes me wonder how old you really are, because you strangely enough remind me of myself when I was just a 17 years old ignorant lil' pup. Ahhh, those where the days. Good times, good times.


I always respond to people who to me.

There are no "superiors" mate, unless you count mods...and you cannot judge anyone's intelligence based on forum posts. 

By saying "you always need to get the last word" you yourself are showing you have to have the last word which is pretty pathetic for a man of your age...


I can express myself fine. I just choose to if it this way because it's funny replying to you. Nob

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Coolio. That conversation ended hours ago.

Let it go.

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[offtopic]
So I just finished the Shizune good ending and >< the emotions! By the way I got into playing KS because of you guys, thanks (I really mean that).
[/sortaofftopic]

I gotta shake these feelings the interactive novel is radiating - time to kick some Reaper ass in MP. Looking forward to the next Op, my readiness % has dipped way below its constant 100% the past week.

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leonia42 wrote...

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Sorry for being alive Salient.


Do you ever have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread or is everything a snide remark about how everything must be about you personally?

Archer was dead on, between the off-topic banter and the snarky attitudes, one has to dig deep to find the speculations around here. For a casual reader, you have to wade through five pages of crap for every nugget of good stuff and even most of the good stuff has been discussed ad nauseum before. 

I know some of you guys read this thread every day but not every poster does and a little more respect for the casual observer might go a long way in getting positive recognition of the theory. Otherwise you'll keep getting those stupid trolls and flame bait posts from everyone that thinks ITists are loonies (well, you'll stilll get those but it wouldn't hurt to get less of them).


Why are you so mad? I've contributed intelligently quite a few times but if you want to ignore that it's fine. The truth of the matter is that the games been out for five months...speculations are going to dry out.

Sorry I'm not allowed to intelligently respond because t hinders your view about me. 



I didn't m
I didn't make a snide remark, I made an apology. There's a difference :whistle:

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byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I heard that line, so I'm assuming that's the proper one. I love how well the musical themes are done, the Meta's theme, the Insurrectionists' theme, that theme from I can't remember where that plays when we first get back to the desert. Along with all the consistency with previous seasons, Reggie's knock-knock jokes, the part-shark line. That's what makes any series good, internal consistency.


Ah, good. You didnt get the one with the almost completely quiet fight scene. The early version almost ruined the fights for me.

Anyhow: Considering that he's survived an exploding oil platform and getting shot by a MAC cannon, I'm pretty sure Brandon's character will be back again.

Also, Maine is a total troll.

And I wonder if thats really the end of Blue ODST Freelancer?


I doubt MBG (Mysterious Blue Guy) died, as he only got hit in the shoulder. Considering what some other characters have been through...

Also, while answering questions recently they said they may or may not reveal MBG's identity and such this season, as they might go into it later. Later being maybe season 11.


While we're speculating about characters, I still  want to know what happened to Georgia.

Seems implied that something went wrong with his jetpack, and he was never found.

Didnt that happen to Kurt in the Ghosts of Onyx book?

Maybe Georgia started Freelancer II!


It happened to James in The Fall Of Reach, pretty much exactly the same. Something similar happened to Kurt, I believe, but I don't remember if it involved a jet pack.

What I'm thinking is, Tex thinks Carolina's dead (as do others, possibly from Tex's word). Maybe, since they both went running off ahead, something happens to Carolina, ans Tex assumes she died, and thus informs everyone else of this.

As for CT, I'm thinking CT is going to get killed (or something) and her "boyfriend", the Innie Leader, escapes and later builds himself a replica of her suit, which is why it's slightly different in season 7, and why season 7 "CT" has the same voice as Leader Guy. This also would explain Wash and Carolina's conversation about CT a few episodes ago.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

[offtopic]
So I just finished the Shizune good ending and >< the emotions! By the way I got into playing KS because of you guys, thanks (I really mean that).
[/sortaofftopic]

I gotta shake these feelings the interactive novel is radiating - time to kick some Reaper ass in MP. Looking forward to the next Op, my readiness % has dipped way below its constant 100% the past week.


Oh wow, most people dont like Shizune much. Glad you did!

I still kinda wish there was a Misha route, even though I know why there isnt one.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

It happened to James in The Fall Of Reach, pretty much exactly the same. Something similar happened to Kurt, I believe, but I don't remember if it involved a jet pack.

What I'm thinking is, Tex thinks Carolina's dead (as do others, possibly from Tex's word). Maybe, since they both went running off ahead, something happens to Carolina, ans Tex assumes she died, and thus informs everyone else of this.

As for CT, I'm thinking CT is going to get killed (or something) and her "boyfriend", the Innie Leader, escapes and later builds himself a replica of her suit, which is why it's slightly different in season 7, and why season 7 "CT" has the same voice as Leader Guy. This also would explain Wash and Carolina's conversation about CT a few episodes ago.


Carolina still hasnt gotten both of her AIs, though. She cant go MIA yet.

Unless Sigma is himself two AIs. His voice kinda sounded like it.

Also reminded me a bit of the godchild, which was less fun.

Anyhow, its 6am, I'm gonna head to bed now.

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Finished it again last night, everything maxed out. STILL missing something in that ending. It lacks the punch of the 2nd and the nobility of the 1st.

One thing I did miss previously but noticed last night was Shepards face scars. This time around I healed them only to SPOT his face gaping orange in the closing scenes. Error or coincidence ?

Either way shoody mistake not to fix.