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[jojon2se]

Btw; Whatever one may think of Glyph and his place in conspiracy theories, some creative soul could probably make a rather amusing little skit, putting him in place of Kevin Spacey, in the The Usual Suspects interrogation scenes. Who does a good Glyph voice? :9

[Restrider]

hukbum wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

And I ****ing hate the adds on YouTube my god, I can't even watch this from my laptop because of them.

Try Adblock Plus if you use firefox. Works fine and youtube is as it was before the ad-storm.
(Who ever gave me the tip here, big THANKS again )

You're welcome.

[tangythang]

dorktainian wrote...

if you liken sheps breath scene to this then maybe...just maybe... shep waking up in destroy is NOT a good thing.  If as suggested Cerberus want a hero...a figurehead for their own aims then shep is meant to survive so he can work for them?  Indoctrinated?  Just because he takes the breath does not mean he isnt indoctrinated.    

What if there are no good choices in the final 3?  They are all given to us....we are blinded by indoctrination into assuming they are the right choices... this entity has been wiping out entire civilisations and we are meant to trust his options? maybe the right choice is not to choose from the choices given but follow your own path?  Thats why his reaper voice sounds pissed off when you do.

As far as the traitor on the normandy is concerned it would have to be EDI.  now call me paranoid but how do you know that Dr Eva didn't survive and is masquerading as EDI?  Dont forget TIM said they would ensure that EVA stayed loyal.  Surely that would apply to hardware as well as software?

And don't forget that EVA didn't go down without a fight. Now had she WON the fight, that's extremely dangerous.

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And regarding IT, there seem to be two kind of indoctrination that theorist would like to assert:
- full blown inception style hallucination, which is very convenient if not too easy,
- fight-club-esque delusion affecting Shepard's preception

The latter seems to be more coherent with the false messiah ploy, 
a ploy that turns out to be Cerberus' modus of operandi.

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Let's expand this a bit further with hypotetical scenario leading from Shepard waking up in destroy ending.
Shepard realize that he/she almost lead the entire galaxy into Reaper's trap, and it turns out that what he saw previously is actually happened in one way or another (dellusion):
- he could've shot garrus (marrauder shield)
- went into the conduit beam arriving at presidium monument,
- He find the place dark as it should with mountains of corpse, associating it with the collector's base,
- contemplate that something's not right (but accepting the delusion anyway by saying "make sense..." at the end)
- had an imaginary conversation with TIM and Anderson in the presidium area,
- shot himself in the head (like that edward norton did in fight-club movie)
- staggering half-conciously into the citadel tower elevator, and during that long ride, have an imaginary conversation with starbrat thingy,
- wen't into the council meeting chamber and open citadel's arm
- tens of thousands of troop lands after citadel's arm opened (I see no reason why if it improves the odd of winning)
- a battle ensues in the council chamber between reaper's ground troop and galactic alliance, explains why harbinger leaving the beam in the first place
- one of the explosion wakes Shepard.

but it could just be me, trying to make sense out of that mess...

[Restrider]

That's pretty much Waking Nightmare Theory only without the Crucible firing.
Could be a possibility.

[tangythang]

Restrider wrote...

That's pretty much Waking Nightmare Theory only without the Crucible firing.
Could be a possibility.

The crucible firing is Shepard mind frying catatonizing him/her immediately (or worse, the reaper assuming control of his body)
In destroy ending, because of high EMS allowing troops to be deployed after citadel's arm open,
and him/her eluding Reaper's brainwashing, he survived. 

[RavenEyry]

Fun fact for people debating reapers age yesterday, the scar on Klendagon is 37 million years old, so that's the minimum.

[BleedingUranium]

RavenEyry wrote...

Fun fact for people debating reapers age yesterday, the scar on Klendagon is 37 million years old, so that's the minimum.

Yep. And I tend to think that's closer to the real age. The only place one billion is mentioned is for the Leviathan of Dis, which was found by the Batarians. One only needs read the description of Khar'shan to know how *ahem* honest the Hegemony is with such things.

And while this is not an argument that works in universe, it is a good one from a writing perspecitve: at the end of ME1 Shepard says that the Reapers are coming, with hundreds, maybe thousands of ships. If they are one billion years old, that'd be about 20,000, which doesn't exactly match that very well. If they're about 40 million then they'd have about 750-1000, which fits perfectly.

[Fur28]

Do the repares make more than one reaper per cycle because of many races in a cycle?, or does a race needs an especific type of DNA to be transformed into a reaper?

[BleedingUranium]

Fur28 wrote...

Do the repares make more than one reaper per cycle because of many races in a cycle?, or does a race needs an especific type of DNA to be transformed into a reaper?

I believe it's only one Sovereign class per cycle, and the rest are made into Destroyers.

[MegumiAzusa]

Fur28 wrote...

Do the repares make more than one reaper per cycle because of many races in a cycle?, or does a race needs an especific type of DNA to be transformed into a reaper?

Multiple according to Javik. Though it's unclear if they even do multiple from one race if enough source material is found.

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

Do the repares make more than one reaper per cycle because of many races in a cycle?, or does a race needs an especific type of DNA to be transformed into a reaper?

I believe it's only one Sovereign class per cycle, and the rest are made into Destroyers.

There is nothing to back up this claim. Could be true, could not be true.

[RavenEyry]

I thought the codex said something about destroyers being made from 'less worthy' races, which is why people have been saying that since day 1.


Anyway, from the journal of Dr. Cayce who was studying the 'prothean' artifact in firewalker: "It's like they're inside my head, stealing my thoughts"

[Fur28]

RavenEyry wrote...

I thought the codex said something about destroyers being made from 'less worthy' races, which is why people have been saying that since day 1.


Anyway, from the journal of Dr. Cayce who was studying the 'prothean' artifact in firewalker: "It's like they're inside my head, stealing my thoughts"

Does the codex says why we dont see race specific or different type of Sovereign type-reapers?
And how "less worthier" could a race have been to become one of those cutie little ones we see in From Ashes

Modifié par Fur28, 11 décembre 2012 - 11:49 .

[Fur28]

Modifié par Fur28, 11 décembre 2012 - 11:48 .

[BleedingUranium]

Fur28 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I thought the codex said something about destroyers being made from 'less worthy' races, which is why people have been saying that since day 1.


Anyway, from the journal of Dr. Cayce who was studying the 'prothean' artifact in firewalker: "It's like they're inside my head, stealing my thoughts"

Does the codex says why we dont see race specific or different type of Sovereign type-reapers?
And how "less worthier" could a race have been to become one of those cutie little ones we see in From Ashes

All Sovereign class Reapers do look the same. It's the core, the true Reaper itself, that's based on the physical shape of the species it was made from. Think of the cuttlefish part as a giant suit of armour.

[Rifneno]

Leviathan specifically stated that a SINGLE Reaper is created each cycle. Something along the lines of "Perfect in its construction, in our image".

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I thought the codex said something about destroyers being made from 'less worthy' races, which is why people have been saying that since day 1.


Anyway, from the journal of Dr. Cayce who was studying the 'prothean' artifact in firewalker: "It's like they're inside my head, stealing my thoughts"

Does the codex says why we dont see race specific or different type of Sovereign type-reapers?
And how "less worthier" could a race have been to become one of those cutie little ones we see in From Ashes

All Sovereign class Reapers do look the same. It's the core, the true Reaper itself, that's based on the physical shape of the species it was made from. Think of the cuttlefish part as a giant suit of armour.

ME2 likes to disagree where you can see at least 4 variations of shells, and one of them is even displayed in ME3 at a Cerberus base. The one where you have to gather the Reaper tech.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 11 décembre 2012 - 12:09 .

[Restrider]

We have
Sovereign class dreadnoughts
Destroyers
Processor ships
Troop transports
mentioned in the codex in ME3...

[dorktainian]

Rifneno wrote...

Leviathan specifically stated that a SINGLE Reaper is created each cycle. Something along the lines of "Perfect in its construction, in our image".

seem to remember seeing a representation od 'the human reaper' in its shell and it was facing backwards.    would this be a curse on whoever was reaperised in that they could see the destruction they have just caused?

[dorktainian]

also...

at the end of mass effect 2 joker (i think) gives shep a screen with piccys of harbinger on it. How did he get them when harbie was still in darkspace?

[BleedingUranium]

Restrider wrote...

We have
Sovereign class dreadnoughts
Destroyers
Processor ships
Troop transports
mentioned in the codex in ME3...

Right, which is what those in the picture are, most likely.

[BleedingUranium]

dorktainian wrote...

also...

at the end of mass effect 2 joker (i think) gives shep a screen with piccys of harbinger on it. How did he get them when harbie was still in darkspace?

EDI probably took that info from files in the Collector Base.

[MegumiAzusa]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Restrider wrote...

We have
Sovereign class dreadnoughts
Destroyers
Processor ships
Troop transports
mentioned in the codex in ME3...

Right, which is what those in the picture are, most likely.

No, there are no Destroyers and each ship is about the same size.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 11 décembre 2012 - 12:20 .

[RavenEyry]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

ME2 likes to disagree where you can see at least 4 variations of shells, and one of them is even displayed in ME3 at a Cerberus base. The one where you have to gather the Reaper tech.

Where does it say they're all sovereign class capitals?

[BleedingUranium]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Restrider wrote...

We have
Sovereign class dreadnoughts
Destroyers
Processor ships
Troop transports
mentioned in the codex in ME3...

Right, which is what those in the picture are, most likely.

No, there are no Destroyers and each ship is about the same size.

Then there are no Destroyers there. Doesn't change the idea.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 11 décembre 2012 - 12:21 .