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[CoolioThane]

byne wrote...

Coolio. That conversation ended hours ago.

Let it go.

I fell asleep so have responded.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

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You have asked for speculations. I have provided them.

Either ****ING SPECULATE WITH WHAT I HAVE PROVIDED, or I'm pulling a Salient, and I'll leave.

You provide something and then you left anyway when you got responses. The point was?

Silence was my assent, you managed to say what I was thinking so well, I had nothing left to say.

You've been quiet a lot recently, Arian...

Are you plotting something?

I wish I was *sigh*

Mostly I've been spending my time, listless and a bit depressive.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 07 août 2012 - 10:07 .

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

It happened to James in The Fall Of Reach, pretty much exactly the same. Something similar happened to Kurt, I believe, but I don't remember if it involved a jet pack.

What I'm thinking is, Tex thinks Carolina's dead (as do others, possibly from Tex's word). Maybe, since they both went running off ahead, something happens to Carolina, ans Tex assumes she died, and thus informs everyone else of this.

As for CT, I'm thinking CT is going to get killed (or something) and her "boyfriend", the Innie Leader, escapes and later builds himself a replica of her suit, which is why it's slightly different in season 7, and why season 7 "CT" has the same voice as Leader Guy. This also would explain Wash and Carolina's conversation about CT a few episodes ago.

Carolina still hasnt gotten both of her AIs, though. She cant go MIA yet.

Unless Sigma is himself two AIs. His voice kinda sounded like it.

Also reminded me a bit of the godchild, which was less fun.

Anyhow, its 6am, I'm gonna head to bed now.

Oh right, I forgot about her AIs

I think the second voice is just to make him seem creepier, and Carolina doesn't seem to have gone crazy yet.

Haha, it's 3 here, I'm gonna go too. Gnight all!

[Leonia]

CoolioThane wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Sorry for being alive Salient.

Do you ever have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread or is everything a snide remark about how everything must be about you personally?

Archer was dead on, between the off-topic banter and the snarky attitudes, one has to dig deep to find the speculations around here. For a casual reader, you have to wade through five pages of crap for every nugget of good stuff and even most of the good stuff has been discussed ad nauseum before. 

I know some of you guys read this thread every day but not every poster does and a little more respect for the casual observer might go a long way in getting positive recognition of the theory. Otherwise you'll keep getting those stupid trolls and flame bait posts from everyone that thinks ITists are loonies (well, you'll stilll get those but it wouldn't hurt to get less of them).

Why are you so mad? I've contributed intelligently quite a few times but if you want to ignore that it's fine. The truth of the matter is that the games been out for five months...speculations are going to dry out.

Sorry I'm not allowed to intelligently respond because t hinders your view about me. 



I didn't m
I didn't make a snide remark, I made an apology. There's a difference 

Oh look, he's turning things to be all about him again and putting words into the mouth of the person he is quoting.. that's not new.

Look, I'm not mad. I just find your attittude downright antagonistic towards anyone you disagree with (which seems to be most people).

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

Oh and there's also the ever popular "If you haven't got something nice to say, don't say it at all." I can count one hand the number of posts you've made that are actually speculative in nature and there are far more "No, you" arguments being made instead.

[bip78]

bip78 wrote...

Finished it again last night, everything maxed out. STILL missing something in that ending. It lacks the punch of the 2nd and the nobility of the 1st.

One thing I did miss previously but noticed last night was Shepards face scars. This time around I healed them only to SPOT his face gaping orange in the closing scenes. Error or coincidence ?

Either way shoody mistake not to fix.

Keen on peoples thoughts?

[Leonia]

There was a lot of talk about the reappearing Renegade scars pre-EC but not sure if much was mentioned after the EC came out. Haven't personally experienced since I played a Paragon (well, Paragade, close enough) but it seems to be an easy bug to fix if it is indeed a bug at all.

[Arian Dynas]

Leonia... I won't deny Coolio's being argumentative, but, lighten up a bit.

I doubt the majority of his posts are "No you."s

[CoolioThane]

leonia42 wrote...

Oh look, he's turning things to be all about him again and putting words into the mouth of the person he is quoting.. that's not new.

Look, I'm not mad. I just find your attittude downright antagonistic towards anyone you disagree with (which seems to be most people).

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

Oh and there's also the ever popular "If you haven't got something nice to say, don't say it at all." I can count one hand the number of posts you've made that are actually speculative in nature and there are far more "No, you" arguments being made instead.

Awww it'll be okay, perhaps just calm it.

If you'd pay attention I am only really antagonistic to trolls or people who start at me for no real reason. You seem to have fallen into that second category.

You have a freaky hand then. Maybe get some fingers removed? 

I can respond to any post as it is a public forum and I will continue to do so. You assume you know me and have read all of my posts when you really haven't. I suggest before making more assumptions you think.

[Leonia]

You humans are all racist.

But I'll drop it if you come up with speculations. Deal?

[CoolioThane]

I'd feel like I was repeating myself or other people.

Could always repeat my essay in the QE codes or whatever they're called

Or maybe talk about the Batarian prophet from ME2?

Or you want new speculations From a 5month old game ?

[Home run MF]

bip78 wrote...

bip78 wrote...

Finished it again last night, everything maxed out. STILL missing something in that ending. It lacks the punch of the 2nd and the nobility of the 1st.

One thing I did miss previously but noticed last night was Shepards face scars. This time around I healed them only to SPOT his face gaping orange in the closing scenes. Error or coincidence ?

Either way shoody mistake not to fix.

Keen on peoples thoughts?

That ending definitely feels like putting together a puzzle with missing pieces.
About the scars, I'm always renegade and always have them in the end so I'm not of much help.

[RavenEyry]

leonia42 wrote...

There was a lot of talk about the reappearing Renegade scars pre-EC but not sure if much was mentioned after the EC came out. Haven't personally experienced since I played a Paragon (well, Paragade, close enough) but it seems to be an easy bug to fix if it is indeed a bug at all.

I think that was a glitch because it happened to some people but not others.

[bip78]

@ Home run MF

Agree, but focusing on topic - if the endings are based on a dream/hallucination it might contribute further to these ideas.

If BW have simply been lazy towards the end then at least they could do is put their hands up and acknowledge that.

Time will tell I guess

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Home run MF wrote...

bip78 wrote...

bip78 wrote...

Finished it again last night, everything maxed out. STILL missing something in that ending. It lacks the punch of the 2nd and the nobility of the 1st.

One thing I did miss previously but noticed last night was Shepards face scars. This time around I healed them only to SPOT his face gaping orange in the closing scenes. Error or coincidence ?

Either way shoody mistake not to fix.

Keen on peoples thoughts?

That ending definitely feels like putting together a puzzle with missing pieces.
About the scars, I'm always renegade and always have them in the end so I'm not of much help.

Pretty sure BroShep's facial scars reappearing is a known bug/issue, would say it's intentional but I don't think I've ever heard of a FemShep having that. My femshep paragons always have no-scars in any of the endings and my renegades full scars look like this:



and



Never bother healing* any renegade shep scars, always thought the best perks to going renegade were the badass cyborg scars and eyes that came with them.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 07 août 2012 - 10:50 .

[bip78]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

bip78 wrote...

bip78 wrote...

Finished it again last night, everything maxed out. STILL missing something in that ending. It lacks the punch of the 2nd and the nobility of the 1st.

One thing I did miss previously but noticed last night was Shepards face scars. This time around I healed them only to SPOT his face gaping orange in the closing scenes. Error or coincidence ?

Either way shoody mistake not to fix.

Keen on peoples thoughts?

That ending definitely feels like putting together a puzzle with missing pieces.
About the scars, I'm always renegade and always have them in the end so I'm not of much help.

Pretty sure BroShep's facial scars reappearing is a known bug/issue, would say it's intentional but I don't think I've ever heard of a FemShep having that. My femshep paragons always have no-scars in any of the endings and my renegades full scars look like this:



and



Never bother healing* any renegade shep scars, always thought the best perks to going renegade were the badass cyborg scars and eyes that came with them.

Nice pic's not seen those before. Ive gone blue and red with mutli endings but for consistantcy I would assume that BW would patch those lil mistakes up.

Would be nice to have a sync'd trilogy 

[Norlond]

Home run MF wrote...



That ending definitely feels like putting together a puzzle with missing pieces.
About the scars, I'm always renegade and always have them in the end so I'm not of much help.

It's a 10^9 piece puzzle with missing pieces, pieces that don't match, big parts of the puzzle are invisible and some pieces are held back by the puzzle maker

Never noticed scars in my only renegade playthrough, might have missed them though, but I don't think that means anything, my bets are on a bug

[Rifneno]

Am I the only one who truly and passionately hates the renegade scar thing? This isn't ****ing Star Wars. Getting uglier if you're a dick is stupid.

Also, I say again, that crap there with the lightning and the cyborg skin is exactly what the Arca Monolith did to people it hyper-indoctrinated.

[Home run MF]

About the dream/attempt of indoctrination beginning at the transport crash.

It connects to the first moments of the Shepard post beam scene, think about it, she appears unconscious and a defribillator sound happens followed by Anderson saying her name,(maybe she is being reanimated by him) and she is sorrounded by smoke. Once she is awake again the hardcore indoc attemp starts (maybe what provoked the crash in first place was Harbinger or another Reaper).
My only problem with this is where the hell is my squad? Are they dead? And Coats? Did he sabotage the transport?

@ gunslinger I didn't know renegade scars stayed during the other endings. I would seem doing the ultimate sacrifice should grant you instant peace of mind.

[Rifneno]

The catalyst is... <drumroll> there is no catalyst because the crucible is a Reaper trick. Tricksie hobbit--err, reapersies.

[Leonia]

Rifneno wrote...

Am I the only one who truly and passionately hates the renegade scar thing? This isn't ****ing Star Wars. Getting uglier if you're a dick is stupid.

Also, I say again, that crap there with the lightning and the cyborg skin is exactly what the Arca Monolith did to people it hyper-indoctrinated.

Ugh, yeah, never liked the "if you're evil, you'll turn physically evil but if you're a good boy or girl your scars will heal!" message, mostly because it seems to ignore the premise of the whole renegade/paragon system (which isn't that great of a morality system in the first place and has consistency issues like whoa).

As for the Arca Monolith, I'm not 100% sure it's an indoctrination device, it's definitely another tool in the Reapers' arsenal, maybe designed more to placate races than it is intended to bring them under control in the form of indoctrination (that is, similar to the effects the Citadel seems to have on everyone there). Basically it primes them for indoctrination later, plus it can create husks. That's how it looked to me but the comic never really goes into great detail and even after reading it I wasn't convinced that TIM was indoctrinated. It seems sort of a cruel irony that Saren also falls victim to indoctrination later on as well but I'm not too sure the monolith is the source.

But agree on the appearance similarities, it'd be nice to actually hear TIM or someone else mention the monolith in-game and reveal more about it. Actually, you remember that device on Aequitas? Wasn't that basically the same sort of device?

Modifié par leonia42, 07 août 2012 - 11:05 .

[bip78]

You will only notice the scars IF you heal them and right at the ending (we are talking on the Citadel) will they be back?

Could this be by the beam hitting you and Shep becomes SUPER stressed lol?? Remember they were based on how you respond - positive or negative.

[MaximizedAction]

@Shepard pics

Just finished the ME Evolution comic and, besides being a really great read, it hints to me strongly that Control and Synthesis are technology of the same origin, as, the ones to touch the Arca Monolith in the comic got similar synthetic parts put on their bodies as Shepard gets in Control and Synthesis, the small tubes, eyes, etc.

In the comic Saren's brother even calls the Monolith an "Evolution Accelerator" (interestingly, the words are bolded in the comic and Harper even responds with "You don't know what you're dealing with." -- history keeps repeating itself) -- hintyhint Synthesis?
It's also mentioned in the comic more than a few times that the Monolith just simplifies the intellect of the victims who touch it and turns them into servants of it. To me, it's rather clear now that everyone who looks like that got somewhat huskified.

So, for those who read the comic, it should become rather obvious (or it is intended as such from the devs) that the choices at the end are not only of Reaper origin, but also that you basically side with the Reapers in Control and Synthesis.

And starting to wonder whether IT might be legit or not is only small steps away from that realization.

EDIT: 'd by Rifneno.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 août 2012 - 11:09 .

[Home run MF]

Yes, the Reapers have technology capable of transforming someone from human to husk in seconds just by touching it(or being impaled). The Catalyst wants you to do that exactly (they even put a cutscene showing huskified Shep) and yet people don't see a problem with it?

What game are they playing? It's sure as hell not the one I am.

[bip78]

So taking into account the Green or Red endings, technically Shep should should survive thanks to his bionic implants.

Green = he'll merge with the rest of the synthetics.
Red = his parts will stop functioning but organic parts will kick in?