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[Norlond]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Think of it this way:
Reaper code = poison
But it's the dose that matters. If you only take a very small amount or just some parts of the poison it can have positive effects.

More like, if you make alterations to the poison it becomes positive.

That's what I meant by taking parts of the poison: extracting the positive proteins/molecules/enzymes whatever

[RavenEyry]

Norlond wrote...

Think of it this way:
Reaper code = poison
But it's the dose that matters. If you only take a very small amount or just some parts of the poison it can have positive effects.

I alwas wondered why deleting reaper code supposedly kills the geth instead of just reverting them to before the upgrade.

[MegumiAzusa]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
In case you haven't noticed: The war ended before the upgrade was complete

No.

Ährm ... when did the fleet stop firing?

The question is why, and the answer to that question is fear of retaliation.
If you don't warn them about the Geth returning to full strength:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4XKjkEloY#t=1m11s

[MegumiAzusa]

RavenEyry wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Think of it this way:
Reaper code = poison
But it's the dose that matters. If you only take a very small amount or just some parts of the poison it can have positive effects.

I alwas wondered why deleting reaper code supposedly kills the geth instead of just reverting them to before the upgrade.

It does, problem here is the anti Geth countermeasures. The flashbang they mentioned earlier. You people seem to forget that.

[BleedingUranium]

Norlond wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Think of it this way:
Reaper code = poison
But it's the dose that matters. If you only take a very small amount or just some parts of the poison it can have positive effects.

More like, if you make alterations to the poison it becomes positive.

That's what I meant by taking parts of the poison: extracting the positive proteins/molecules/enzymes whatever

Never mind me then

RavenEyry wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Think of it this way:
Reaper code = poison
But it's the dose that matters. If you only take a very small amount or just some parts of the poison it can have positive effects.

I alwas wondered why deleting reaper code supposedly kills the geth instead of just reverting them to before the upgrade.

I understood it as the Reaper code was blocking you from shutting down the server, so you had to get rid of it, then shut it down. Not 100% on that, I haven't played it in a while.

Never mind, Megumi got it.


Wow, this is a useless post

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 11 décembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[Andromidius]

My day was awful.

And since I can feel the vibe in this thread right now, I'm back out again.

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

My day was awful.

And since I can feel the vibe in this thread right now, I'm back out again.

That's terrible!

Things are fine in here right now, actually

[RavenEyry]

So what? The geth self destruct when the code is deleted or something?

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
In case you haven't noticed: The war ended before the upgrade was complete

No.

Ährm ... when did the fleet stop firing?

The question is why, and the answer to that question is fear of retaliation.
If you don't warn them about the Geth returning to full strength:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4XKjkEloY#t=1m11s

Sorry, but the code is uploaded AFTER legions death. Your point for "a bluff don't work" were the used countermesures. And the fleet stoped attacking BEFORE it was uploaded. So a bluff could have worked.
And with every video you're posting, you only show that the upgrades were not needed for peace. It's entirely in Sheps hand.

[BleedingUranium]

HagarIshay wrote...
Wait, there is another DLC coming out??? 

At least one more. It has all of the writers (eight or nine) and ME's main composer Sam Hulick working on it, who's never done work for DLC before (EC doesn't count). IT may or may not be Citadel related, as was hinted in the files, and that's all we know so far. Whatever it is, it's going to be big!

By the way, your Shep's really pretty!

[MegumiAzusa]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
In case you haven't noticed: The war ended before the upgrade was complete

No.

Ährm ... when did the fleet stop firing?

The question is why, and the answer to that question is fear of retaliation.
If you don't warn them about the Geth returning to full strength:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4XKjkEloY#t=1m11s

Sorry, but the code is uploaded AFTER legions death. Your point for "a bluff don't work" were the used countermesures. And the fleet stoped attacking BEFORE it was uploaded. So a bluff could have worked.
And with every video you're posting, you only show that the upgrades were not needed for peace. It's entirely in Sheps hand.

No because if the Geth would not return to their functional state, which they cannot because of the flashbangs, the Quarians will just kill them a bit later. There is no point in trying to deceive them. The Geth are unable to do anything at that point.

[BleedingUranium]

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
In case you haven't noticed: The war ended before the upgrade was complete

No.

Ährm ... when did the fleet stop firing?

The question is why, and the answer to that question is fear of retaliation.
If you don't warn them about the Geth returning to full strength:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4XKjkEloY#t=1m11s

Sorry, but the code is uploaded AFTER legions death. Your point for "a bluff don't work" were the used countermesures. And the fleet stoped attacking BEFORE it was uploaded. So a bluff could have worked.
And with every video you're posting, you only show that the upgrades were not needed for peace. It's entirely in Sheps hand.

Right. Hukbum's point is that Shepard could have been bluffing that the Geth were about to return to full strength, and Gerrel would still have stood down, because all he had was Shepard's word. That the code was uploaded after that doesn't matter, peace was achieved because of Shepard's word alone.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 11 décembre 2012 - 04:52 .

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

hukbum wrote...
In case you haven't noticed: The war ended before the upgrade was complete

No.

Ährm ... when did the fleet stop firing?

The question is why, and the answer to that question is fear of retaliation.
If you don't warn them about the Geth returning to full strength:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE4XKjkEloY#t=1m11s

Sorry, but the code is uploaded AFTER legions death. Your point for "a bluff don't work" were the used countermesures. And the fleet stoped attacking BEFORE it was uploaded. So a bluff could have worked.
And with every video you're posting, you only show that the upgrades were not needed for peace. It's entirely in Sheps hand.

No because if the Geth would not return to their functional state, which they cannot because of the flashbangs, the Quarians will just kill them a bit later. There is no point in trying to deceive them. The Geth are unable to do anything at that point.

So, we have a scource now, how long these countermeasures are working? They would be seen a agression, and for the Quarians not get killed is to cease all hostility.

[Arashi08]

So where did this debate come from?

[spotlessvoid]

Did Legion upload actual/modified Reaper code, or did he upload his own Legion code, which is partially based off/inspired by Reaper code?

[spotlessvoid]

Arashi08 wrote...

So where did this debate come from?

Legion be tryin't rep dat synthesis yo

[Rifneno]

LOL. Everytime megumi gets her fail all over the thread, I remember estabanus telling me "she's not a literalist". Always makes me laugh. Reminds me of Rush Limbaugh and his "just because I did the thing I'm always ranting about other people doing doesn't make me a hypocrite" speech.

[Rifneno]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

So where did this debate come from?

Legion be tryin't rep dat synthesis yo

Legion wasn't doing synthesis, the Reapers were doing control and Legion was making it backfire on them.  Control sucks.

[hukbum]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Did Legion upload actual/modified Reaper code, or did he upload his own Legion code, which is partially based off/inspired by Reaper code?

I have no idea. And I only let him upload it, because I think the Geth deserve a chance and know the Quarians are stupid.

Modifié par hukbum, 11 décembre 2012 - 06:08 .

[dorktainian]

quarians or geth? quarians everytime. my tali aint gonna do a death dive off no cliff. anyways the geth have shown they are reaper fodder.. plus the quarians have the fleet.... choice? there really isnt one. Tali ftw.

[dorktainian]

Remember this?

yep the ending sucks....heres why. 

[Rifneno]

dorktainian wrote...

quarians or geth? quarians everytime. my tali aint gonna do a death dive off no cliff. anyways the geth have shown they are reaper fodder.. plus the quarians have the fleet.... choice? there really isnt one. Tali ftw.

Agreed, it's no choice at all.  Geth all the way.  They aren't incredibly retarded, they aren't the aggressors every single time, and their fleet isn't made of guns strapped onto school buses.

Anyway, I absolutely guarantee that Legion uploading the cleaned up Reaper upgrades won't backfire.  For one very simple reason: the only other choice is genocide.  You MUST wipe out an entire race, and a relatively innocent and beloved one at that, to stop that from occuring.  There's no choice to just keep the geth as they were.  It's all dead geth, or all upgraded geth.  This is fiction and I'm positive the writers wouldn't go down that road.

[IronSabbath88]

You know, a point to bring up is if BioWare truly wanted us to take the starkid seriously (or at least semi-seriously..) they should have included Leviathan into the actual game, not made it a DLC. It would've at least given us some insight as to maybe there IS an AI responsible for this.

Still a stupid and silly situation but it's weird they left it to a DLC to explain.

[RavenEyry]

I am never doing a playthrough without geth/quarian peace so luckily I'll never have to choose.

[Fur28]

 Quarians or Geth? i save bothB), besides i always get the reputation choice, and if i didn´t get it i would stare at my screen for minutes trying to decide.
Havin Legio or Tali dead is another factor in my choice