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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MWMike2011

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Nothing new, I take it?

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hukbum

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paxxton wrote...

Hah! I didn't even get the chance to stop Rana Thanoptis. She just walked away.

Oh, I thought you killed her on Virmire. It's the only chance you get.

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MWMike2011 wrote...

Nothing new, I take it?


Just more trolls than all of Skyrim.  <sigh>

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Reposting of wacky speculation time!

RavenEyry wrote...

Idea: Reapers were purposely created by the leviathans
First off, this idea assumes the leviathans were not telling Shepard the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If you think they were, don't bother reading this because that's not the discussion I want to spark.

Right, we know that in their prime the leviathans had thralls build them ships. Presumably if they can fly (which I doubt) they can't survive in space. What if those ships they had built were the first reapers? The reapers would have sentience and a measure of free will, possibly with a mandate to create more of themselves when necessary. They would then enforce the leviathans will on the galaxy as the leviathans army, also transporting leviathans when necessary. Indoctrination and harvesting was used as a way to keep the galaxy under control. Possibly they rebelled at some point and overthrew their masters, and possibly they are still working for the leviathans.



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Rifneno wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Nothing new, I take it?


Just more trolls than all of Skyrim.  <sigh>

Less actually, just more persistant.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Nothing new, I take it?


Just more trolls than all of Skyrim.  <sigh>

Less actually, just more persistant.

trolls.....where?

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Yeah, it's like a virus. In the beginning there were many but weak and less persistent, but now they've evolved so only the no-lifer, persistent trolls exist to bother us.

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dorktainian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Just more trolls than all of Skyrim.  <sigh>

Less actually, just more persistant.

trolls.....where?

There's one on the stairs to the throat of the world and a couple outside the labyrinthian.

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TheProtheans wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

I wonder if EA tipped him the wink as it were as to what was coming.


Ok that's it, you're a conspiracy theorist.


Wow I thought you notice that we are. Haven't you played Leviathan. Conspiracy achievemnts are in Leviathan. And Leviathan showed us ITers that the ending can be all in Shepard's head. Heck even Shepard is wondering why the hell is Ann Bryson even with Shepard. No wait Leviathan was using his voice/ explaining to Shepard " Your memories give us voice."


Can you retype that.


Sorry you couldn't read my post let me break it down to you.

1.Leviathan's end was very similar to the ending, minus the chocies.
2. Leviathan uses Shepard's own memorys. Hence Leviathan takes the form of Ann, and the other two guys we meet in Leviathan dlc. Leviathan creates Ann's fathers lab table from Shepard's memorys.
3. Shepard on the ground on all fours like arrival, the Catalyst chambers, and when Shepard wakes up from the beam from Harbinger.
4. Shepard ask why Ann was there with Shepard. I mean come on ...
Shepard: Ann....Cough...what are you doing here? Can Shepard not see he, or she was in a atlas. No Shepard is not a clue where he, or she is. Leviathan has to explain to Shepard about everything.
5. Leviathan again say " Your memeorys give us voice" or at least something along the lines.
Ya umm Catayst boy/ the Reaper leader takes the form of the child how? Right he would have had to get into Shepard's mind and find the child that Shepard has been having nightmers about. Not mention the Catalyst chambers looks like an over lay of the beam run. Also notice when we are on the Citadle, Anderson points out the dark hall way reminds him of the collector base that Shepard told Anderson about. Remeber if you played Leviathan. Leviathan can create objects/ people Shepard has seen, or meet.
6. There are two achievments that have conspiraty theorist, and another Conspiracy hatch I think. Well anyways since literalist call us conspiracy people, I guess Bioware/ Chris since he does read the IT thread once and a while. Told Bioware that since literalist call us ITers conspiracy people. Why not have achievments in Leviathan. I mean come on Leviathan yes was for everyone, but Leviathan in all was a great piece of evidence that maybe the end is in Shepard's head.

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dorktainian

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RavenEyry wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Just more trolls than all of Skyrim.  <sigh>

Less actually, just more persistant.

trolls.....where?

There's one on the stairs to the throat of the world and a couple outside the labyrinthian.

oh sorry i thought they'd all buggered off to new zealand to do a bit of filming.

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dorktainian

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masster blaster wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

I wonder if EA tipped him the wink as it were as to what was coming.


Ok that's it, you're a conspiracy theorist.


Wow I thought you notice that we are. Haven't you played Leviathan. Conspiracy achievemnts are in Leviathan. And Leviathan showed us ITers that the ending can be all in Shepard's head. Heck even Shepard is wondering why the hell is Ann Bryson even with Shepard. No wait Leviathan was using his voice/ explaining to Shepard " Your memories give us voice."


Can you retype that.


Sorry you couldn't read my post let me break it down to you.

1.Leviathan's end was very similar to the ending, minus the chocies.
2. Leviathan uses Shepard's own memorys. Hence Leviathan takes the form of Ann, and the other two guys we meet in Leviathan dlc. Leviathan creates Ann's fathers lab table from Shepard's memorys.
3. Shepard on the ground on all fours like arrival, the Catalyst chambers, and when Shepard wakes up from the beam from Harbinger.
4. Shepard ask why Ann was there with Shepard. I mean come on ...
Shepard: Ann....Cough...what are you doing here? Can Shepard not see he, or she was in a atlas. No Shepard is not a clue where he, or she is. Leviathan has to explain to Shepard about everything.
5. Leviathan again say " Your memeorys give us voice" or at least something along the lines.
Ya umm Catayst boy/ the Reaper leader takes the form of the child how? Right he would have had to get into Shepard's mind and find the child that Shepard has been having nightmers about. Not mention the Catalyst chambers looks like an over lay of the beam run. Also notice when we are on the Citadle, Anderson points out the dark hall way reminds him of the collector base that Shepard told Anderson about. Remeber if you played Leviathan. Leviathan can create objects/ people Shepard has seen, or meet.
6. There are two achievments that have conspiraty theorist, and another Conspiracy hatch I think. Well anyways since literalist call us conspiracy people, I guess Bioware/ Chris since he does read the IT thread once and a while. Told Bioware that since literalist call us ITers conspiracy people. Why not have achievments in Leviathan. I mean come on Leviathan yes was for everyone, but Leviathan in all was a great piece of evidence that maybe the end is in Shepard's head.

:o

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hukbum wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Don't talk to it MB

Jep, just ignore it.


It's done.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Yeah, it's like a virus. In the beginning there were many but weak and less persistent, but now they've evolved so only the no-lifer, persistent trolls exist to bother us.


A good analogy.  What we're dealing with now is the troll equivalent of MRSA.  Anyone got any vancomycin handy?

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masster blaster wrote...

hukbum wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Don't talk to it MB

Jep, just ignore it.


It's done.

Nice one :)
Oh - btw - even that stupid german on this end of the line understood what you said in the first place ;)

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Rifneno wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Yeah, it's like a virus. In the beginning there were many but weak and less persistent, but now they've evolved so only the no-lifer, persistent trolls exist to bother us.


A good analogy.  What we're dealing with now is the troll equivalent of MRSA.  Anyone got any vancomycin handy?


+1

Are you a med student too?!

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RavenEyry

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Rifneno wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Yeah, it's like a virus. In the beginning there were many but weak and less persistent, but now they've evolved so only the no-lifer, persistent trolls exist to bother us.


A good analogy.  What we're dealing with now is the troll equivalent of MRSA.  Anyone got any vancomycin handy?

If only Paxxton had washed his hands this wouldn't have spread!

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Hmm... Lack of Vancomycin might be... problematic.

Anyway what did I miss? Nothing?

Modifié par Domanese, 11 décembre 2012 - 07:30 .


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Rifneno

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Cadence of the Planes wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Yeah, it's like a virus. In the beginning there were many but weak and less persistent, but now they've evolved so only the no-lifer, persistent trolls exist to bother us.


A good analogy.  What we're dealing with now is the troll equivalent of MRSA.  Anyone got any vancomycin handy?


+1

Are you a med student too?!


If I was a med student, I wouldn't have nearly the time to post as much as I do here. :)  Just listened too much to a couple of rambling RN's in my family.

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anyone got owt for mad cows? our lass is doin my head in.

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RavenEyry

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dorktainian wrote...

anyone got owt for mad cows? our lass is doin my head in.

You appear to have a case of sudden onset northernness yourself.

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RavenEyry wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

anyone got owt for mad cows? our lass is doin my head in.

You appear to have a case of sudden onset northernness yourself.

I'm from NW England and I don't speak like this :(

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RavenEyry

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RussianZombeh wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

anyone got owt for mad cows? our lass is doin my head in.

You appear to have a case of sudden onset northernness yourself.

I'm from NW England and I don't speak like this :(

I'm from the east midlands which is almost in the north but not quite and no one acts northern or southern. It's kinda confusing.

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The speculation flame is dying.....Bioware needs to add some wood to the fire if they want to keep this up

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cavs25 wrote...

The speculation flame is dying.....Bioware needs to add some wood to the fire if they want to keep this up

I think BioWare didn't expect the speculations to continue more than 1 year, to be completely honest.

EDIT: Top!

Modifié par estebanus, 11 décembre 2012 - 07:55 .


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cavs25 wrote...

The speculation flame is dying.....Bioware needs to add some wood to the fire if they want to keep this up


yeah, but they also need to be careful not to create something bad that will backlash