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[401 Kill]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everyone. I'vw been busy with a project of mine (will be up on BSN in a few hours) so I was wondering what I missed here?

Edit: Selim on top, so be nice.

Not much. The thread has been really slow tonight.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

401 Kill wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everyone. I'vw been busy with a project of mine (will be up on BSN in a few hours) so I was wondering what I missed here?

Edit: Selim on top, so be nice.

Not much. The thread has been really slow tonight.

I've noticed. Too bad, I wanted your guys opinion on my thing when I finish it, but maybe by then it'll pick up. Has anything of note happened in the past few days?

[BleedingUranium]

Krimzie wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

So, I just had a hunch. Could one of the dataminers check to see what music plays during Shepard's encounter with the kid when he's in the vent?

Here it is. A piano-only version of An End, Once And For All. Note that because it's not an officially released track, it has no official title.

Hmmm... That is an... Uneasy piece. It sounds like 2 songs are going at once. It's too overwhelming for me to enjoy.

It's beautiful, but it is uneasy... that octave span at the end is weird, as are the moments of complete dissonance. Creepy!

Unrelated, but you know what I was thinking about... the leaked script parts dorktainian posted of the TIM confrontation and the choices the Crucible offers. If the Reapers are truly controlling TIM, puppeting him to their will, then their endgoal must be to get Shepard to eventually think "the Illusive Man was right after all," right? In other words, to pick Control. "I wish you could see it as I see it," or even trying to denounce Anderson's opinion as the shortsighted goals of an old solider... all sound like things the Reaper Overloard would say.

But I'm also thinking about how the leaked script points out that TIM sounds more and more illogical right before saying that the Crucible is a bomb -- but wait! It can also control the Reapers! I mentioned this in a post that got lost in the flood, but that little line like there -- even if this script wasn't used -- shows that the choices are intentionally illogical. Perhaps intially, Shepard was only projecting what TIM told her. Except for that pesky synthesis option... I can never work that in... I still think it's probably a Matrix, though. 

I dunno. Fever babbling, waaaah make them stop. /whinylittlegirl

EDIT: OH GOD THE TYPOS, kill them with fire.

Right, it shows the writers' intentions, if nothing else.

Awe, get well soon!

[Auralius Carolus]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everyone. I'vw been busy with a project of mine (will be up on BSN in a few hours) so I was wondering what I missed here?

Edit: Selim on top, so be nice.

Not much. The thread has been really slow tonight.

I've noticed. Too bad, I wanted your guys opinion on my thing when I finish it, but maybe by then it'll pick up. Has anything of note happened in the past few days?

Gilbert Gottfried has been confirmed as a Squad Member. Or maybe I'm trolling... one or the other.

[Krimzie]

D'aww, thanks Bleeding. (:

Man, get a load of this track and tell me it's not getting into your brain. Forget the white flash screen... this is what indoctrination feels like, isn't it!?!? Hulick had to purposely choose the exact pitches that "rub" and cause those warbles. Ringing in the ears, indeed. And since I've never heard this outside of gameplay, I didn't even realize for HOW LONG!

And don't get me started on how rarely Hulick uses vocals. Once in Future for the Krogan -- but they're pure and melodic. Everything after the beam has destorted female vox, stretched out in the same way the piano is stretched out in the dreams. 

And the disonant warble returns!

I love whoever posted the extended soundtrack. They get hugs.

Modifié par Krimzie, 12 décembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[masster blaster]

I guess everyone is taking a break. Good most of us need break once and a while.

Also please everyone I am creating a web connection of people that are Indoctrinated, suspected of being Indoctrinated, or are Indoctrinated, Leviathan, and the Reapers/Harbinger/Nazara/Catalyst.

Also please leave me information of how they became Indoctrinated, or think how they became Indoctrinated.

My topic will be on the IT theoristgroup page/ disccussions.

Trust me it's going to be great.

[masster blaster]

Also does anyone find it weird that Victous is at Earth? I mean Shepard was shocked as hell to see him at Earth/ the FOB. I am not complaining that he's their, but I wonder. I know we havve talked about this before, but I want to bring it back up again.


Turian leader is on Earth.
Krogan Leader is on Earth.
Salarian STG leader on Earth
Quarian admirals in space above Earth, except Tali if you did not get her kicked out.
Earth leaders most likely Indoctrinated, except Anderson as far as we know.
Rachni Leader is on Earth most likely.
Aria could be on the Citadle/ leader of the Terminus systems, well Omega.
The council is on the Citadle.
The galaxys embassidors are on the Citadle.
Liara is the Shadow Broker/ is on Earth.
Shepard's other squads are smaller leaders of special task forces/ projects. Are on Earth.
Shepard is on Earth.
Normandy is in space.
The best of the best fleets,ground troops, and important people are in the Sol system/ Earth.


Crucible has to be connected to the Citadle to work. Citadle in ME1, was proven to be a trap. All relays are blocked off by Reaper forces/ point of no return.

[BansheeOwnage]

Can`t quote for some reason. Hey Krimzie! Hope you feel better ASAP! I always found the track The Choice very interesting and not just because the dream music plays there.

[MegumiAzusa]

I like the clock sounds in

Also note how the music when making your choice is basically a continuation from the music when beaming up (with added drums).


Also I want to say it again: control is the thing where Reapers can influence TIM. He himself couldn't choose it because he doesn't even open the arms. This does not mean it's the choice the Reapers want for Shep to do. Shepard has basically 3 choices with the EC:
1. Let the cycle continue by opt out, but as the Guardian already said this "solution doesn't work anymore". Sooner or later the cycle will be broken, which is exactly what happens.
2. Break the cycle but not touch the cause of it. Destroy and Control are equal but the options for Reapers to intervene when synthetics threaten to destroy all organics. It's not a good solution, if it can be called a solution at all.
3. Do what the Reapers say.

I don't say the Reapers are not trying to trick you, I'm just saying in their eyes control is as bad as destroy.

[spotlessvoid]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Hey, everyone. I'vw been busy with a project of mine (will be up on BSN in a few hours) so I was wondering what I missed here?

Edit: Selim on top, so be nice.

Not much. The thread has been really slow tonight.

I've noticed. Too bad, I wanted your guys opinion on my thing when I finish it, but maybe by then it'll pick up. Has anything of note happened in the past few days?

Gilbert Gottfried has been confirmed as a Squad Member. Or maybe I'm trolling... one or the other.

"Look at this. I'm so ticked off I'm molting. " Everytime I hear that name that's all I can think of

[demersel]

never mind.

Modifié par demersel, 12 décembre 2012 - 05:22 .

[spotlessvoid]

That's if you believe control is possible Megumi.
And if it's just some in built in function of the crucible, then what's all the extra bs TIM is doing all about?

[masster blaster]

Guys I cracked the case.

Harbinger planned it all. Well except what Shepard would do/ choice he/she would make.

After Arrival Harbinger finally get's a hold of TIM. TIM orders his people to start mass producing Reaper implants to all of his troops. TIM sets up the Adjuants as an excuess to have Cerberus be involved in Omega. Once Cerberus has Omega, they start to go beyoned the Omega 4 relay, and either ues the Collector base, or salvage what ever they could find.

Now as this is happening Harbinger keeps tabs on the Quarians marching towards retaking their homeworld from the Geth. He sees this as an opertunite to get more troops for the upcoming war head.

As Harbinger keeps tabs on The Geth, and oversees TIM's operations. Harbinger signals the Batarians to get ready for their arrival. This is where Harbinger builds up his ground forces.

Okay Now when Cerberus has the Proto Reaper in Cronos station. Harbinger now has a direct link to TIM, and now this is where the peices begain to fall in place.


Harbinger orders TIM to send an agent to Mars for reasherch on what this discovery The Alliance has found. Harbinger then tells TIM to start the Control project. I am lead to believe, that TiM was never going to Control the Reapers, but Shepard.

Think about it Shepard can't be Indoctrinated the old fashion way, so Harbinger has to get creative. Furthermore TIM does not want Shepard dead.

Okay so when Harbinger, and his Reapers arrive in the milky way, Harbinger needs to cause fear across the galaxy, and take out theraces that pose a threat.

So Harbinger sends a few Reapers to Palavin to take out the best Military in the galaxy. Next Harbinger sends one Reaper Destroyer has an embassidor to the Geht to offer them help. Once they accept it's help, then Harbinger can begain to rehack the Geth, and use them against the Organics in this war/ harvest.

I will post part two in a bit, but for now break time.

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's if you believe control is possible Megumi.
And if it's just some in built in function of the crucible, then what's all the extra bs TIM is doing all about?

The thing is the Crucible is a power source and the Catalyst is what gives it function. This point was established right after Mars. As Shepard TIM tried to find the Catalyst and tweak it so he can use his research to control them.
But as I said, I don't deny they might try to trick you here which makes your point basically moot if there even was one.

[masster blaster]

Okay forget part 2 I am going to bed so night everyone.

[BansheeOwnage]

Goodnight MB

[spotlessvoid]

If the catalyst gives it function then why the hell does it offer options it doesn't want?

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the catalyst gives it function then why the hell does it offer options it doesn't want?

Because it's not the Catalyst what offers you the functions.
Also as I said the cycle cannot continue anyway. Doing so is futile.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 12 décembre 2012 - 05:45 .

[hukbum]

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the catalyst gives it function then why the hell does it offer options it doesn't want?

It want to be your friend and the Reapers innocent

[spotlessvoid]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the catalyst gives it function then why the hell does it offer options it doesn't want?

Because it's not the Catalyst what offers you the functions.

So the Reapers/Intelligence created the Citadel, have seen the crucible plans, but couldn't figure out what it did to their own space station?

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

If the catalyst gives it function then why the hell does it offer options it doesn't want?

Because it's not the Catalyst what offers you the functions.

So the Reapers/Intelligence created the Citadel, have seen the crucible plans, but couldn't figure out what it did to their own space station?

There was nothing for the Reapers to think any Cycle could even get the Crucible to dock with the Citadel because their divide and conquer always easily worked. It's basically the Millennium Falcon destroying the Death Star. Possible? Yes. Likely? Hell no.
Also they tried to eradicate the plans more then once.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 12 décembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[BansheeOwnage]

A bit too unlikely for me...

[cavs25]

The catalyst can turn off the crucible though....

[hukbum]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
There was nothing for the Reapers to think any Cycle could even get the Crucible to dock with the Citadel because their divide and conquer always easily worked.

That does not make sense. Why add funtions like that in the first place?
"Ok, buddies, let's add some defeat-functions just for the fun of it ... noone will reach it anyway and we need the thrill!"

???