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MegumiAzusa wrote...

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Again , Reapers counter cycle adaptations for billions of years, but now it's all done for? Why, because the Reapers don't take the crucible seriously? How does a group so cavalier and so blatantly reckless last that long?

Turn off the ****ing beam! Problem solved.

You assume it's just flicking a switch and it just turns off.


Thats literally what happens if you refuse.

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Did someone say Rebar or Reaper cables again? Links in my sig for image analysis.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

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Why not just plant crucible designs that only offer synthesis? It's not like this cycle knows wtf they're building.

Nothing says the next cycle would be ready. All they do know is at that moment synthesis is possible.
Also every Cycle adapts and changes the Crucible, just look at the changes we do through the war assets. Point is a Crucible that allows synthesis always also allows destroy.

What makes a cycle ready? Shepard?

How should I know? Fact is you can't prove the opposite either.

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Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient

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Well everyone, been gone a little while, mainly working on ME1 Hardcore playthrough. Anything new?

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Did someone say Rebar or Reaper cables again? Links in my sig for image analysis.


Looks like cables to me.

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byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Again , Reapers counter cycle adaptations for billions of years, but now it's all done for? Why, because the Reapers don't take the crucible seriously? How does a group so cavalier and so blatantly reckless last that long?

Turn off the ****ing beam! Problem solved.

You assume it's just flicking a switch and it just turns off.

Thats literally what happens if you refuse.

1. As I said the EC introduced errors in everything.
2. My guess is it's not as much "turned off" but the Crucible gets destroyed in the same manner if you don't act pre EC. I would count for the inaction still triggering the critical mission failure as an oversight, there are enough of these so while it may not be one it certainly can be one and neither can be proven.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why not just plant crucible designs that only offer synthesis? It's not like this cycle knows wtf they're building.

Nothing says the next cycle would be ready. All they do know is at that moment synthesis is possible.
Also every Cycle adapts and changes the Crucible, just look at the changes we do through the war assets. Point is a Crucible that allows synthesis always also allows destroy.


What the f*ck? That's like wrong in eight different ways!

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spotlessvoid wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Did someone say Rebar or Reaper cables again? Links in my sig for image analysis.

Looks like cables to me.

As I said.

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So the literal ending makes sense?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Again , Reapers counter cycle adaptations for billions of years, but now it's all done for? Why, because the Reapers don't take the crucible seriously? How does a group so cavalier and so blatantly reckless last that long?

Turn off the ****ing beam! Problem solved.

You assume it's just flicking a switch and it just turns off.

Thats literally what happens if you refuse.

1. As I said the EC introduced errors in everything.
2. My guess is it's not as much "turned off" but the Crucible gets destroyed in the same manner if you don't act pre EC. I would count for the inaction still triggering the critical mission failure as an oversight, there are enough of these so while it may not be one it certainly can be one and neither can be proven.


No. Pre EC the literal ending was a mess, and it still is after. Pre EC IT made perfect sense, and it still does after.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why not just plant crucible designs that only offer synthesis? It's not like this cycle knows wtf they're building.

Nothing says the next cycle would be ready. All they do know is at that moment synthesis is possible.
Also every Cycle adapts and changes the Crucible, just look at the changes we do through the war assets. Point is a Crucible that allows synthesis always also allows destroy.

What the f*ck? That's like wrong in eight different ways!

Then point out the flaws and show that it is less convincing then the mess that is IT.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

byne wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Again , Reapers counter cycle adaptations for billions of years, but now it's all done for? Why, because the Reapers don't take the crucible seriously? How does a group so cavalier and so blatantly reckless last that long?

Turn off the ****ing beam! Problem solved.

You assume it's just flicking a switch and it just turns off.

Thats literally what happens if you refuse.

1. As I said the EC introduced errors in everything.
2. My guess is it's not as much "turned off" but the Crucible gets destroyed in the same manner if you don't act pre EC. I would count for the inaction still triggering the critical mission failure as an oversight, there are enough of these so while it may not be one it certainly can be one and neither can be proven.

No. Pre EC the literal ending was a mess, and it still is after. Pre EC IT made perfect sense, and it still does after.

I don't see how the literal ending was worse pre EC. Imo it's the other way round.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

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Did someone say Rebar or Reaper cables again? Links in my sig for image analysis.

Looks like cables to me.

As I said.


I've seen gunslingers analysis before. Reaper cables do not automatically equal citadel.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient



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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Then point out the flaws and show that it is less convincing then the mess that is IT.


IT is the only logical explanation for the ending that makes sense without resorting to space magic or otherwise.

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Megumi has gone full blown literalist

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spotlessvoid wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Did someone say Rebar or Reaper cables again? Links in my sig for image analysis.

Looks like cables to me.

As I said.

I've seen gunslingers analysis before. Reaper cables do not automatically equal citadel.

Which I didn't say. Look up the context before trying to create an argument where none is.

The relevant quotes are:

I still can't see rebar but cables. Also we only see some metallic plates which actually look nothing like object Rho but more like the plates used at the docking ports of the Geth Dreadnaught.

I see cables.
It is interesting how your rebar is always between the "concrete" blocks.
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spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi has gone full blown literalist

Nope. The IT being a mess doesn't mean it has some good arguments.
Also as established in the post before you want to see me in a certain way.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 12 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi has gone full blown literalist

Nope. The IT being a mess doesn't mean it has some good arguments.
Also as established in the post before you want to see me in a certain way.

Going on then, get up there.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi has gone full blown literalist


Yeah, this is just pointless. She goes on about us not having proof or using assumptions, and yet that's what she does in nearly ever post.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient

Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenient

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spotlessvoid wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient


No answer?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Megumi has gone full blown literalist


Yeah, this is just pointless. She goes on about us not having proof or using assumptions, and yet that's what she does in nearly ever post.

I am using assumptions that don't contradict what we are shown.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I've seen gunslingers analysis before. Reaper cables do not automatically equal citadel.


I'm still caught on Concrete = London/Earth, Cables = Citadel/maybe not Earth.