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Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:32
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Probably just reused textures. Shepard couldn't have still been on the Citadel after that explosion with no spacesuit. He would have died and gotten "spaced", just like in Mass Effect 2's prologue.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:33
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenientspotlessvoid wrote...
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Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient
Way to dodge the question.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:34
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magnetite wrote...
Probably just reused textures. Shepard couldn't have still been on the Citadel after that explosion with no spacesuit. He would have died and gotten "spaced", just like in Mass Effect 2's prologue.
#65705
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:34
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From now on I'm not discussing Shepard's location in the breath scene unless something new is brought to the table. He is not on the Citadel. Period.
#65706
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:35
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Maybe Shepard had to prove his worth?
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:36
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenientspotlessvoid wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient
You are assuming the Reapers absolutely need Shepard Indoctrinated to win and that it is not a matter of convenience, a back up plan of sorts.
They know Shepard's capabilities, he has foiled them time after time even in situations which would seem impossible. This has also made him interesting in their eyes, but also a threat.
So they continue to try and stop him in the normal ways, but are always aware, always working towards Indoctrinating him as a way to take him down should he continue to foil their plans. Him becoming a useful pawn to them is just a bonus of that plan.
It is no longer a matter of convenience, but simply a matter of the Reapers taking every precaution against Shepard.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:36
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Shep wakes up only in high EMS destroy and doesn't look like she could do anything but hope for rescue.BleedingUranium wrote...
Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
If that is the case the game does not have an end.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:37
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It's just as improbable, neither is impossible.spotlessvoid wrote...
Way to dodge the question.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenientspotlessvoid wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:38
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They have a different texture and model for rebar. There is no need to reuse the cables.magnetite wrote...
Probably just reused textures. Shepard couldn't have still been on the Citadel after that explosion with no spacesuit. He would have died and gotten "spaced", just like in Mass Effect 2's prologue.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:39
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Harbinger wants an indoctrinated Shepard to make their victory easier. Quite possible Shepard's will made that impossible until he was weakened significantly by a near blast or shuttle crash. The beam could easily be a trap so letting Shepard live is not an actual immediate threat
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:41
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Let's do a physics lesson. Let's pretend Earth doesn't have an atmosphere and there is gravity in space. So Shepard falls 100 kilometers and wakes up.
Force= Mass x Acceleration.
If that was real, the fall would have killed him.
Force= Mass x Acceleration.
If that was real, the fall would have killed him.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:41
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"We have set up this giant structure as a trap, but just to be sure shoot everyone but Shep."spotlessvoid wrote...
Harbinger wants an indoctrinated Shepard to make their victory easier. Quite possible Shepard's will made that impossible until he was weakened significantly by a near blast or shuttle crash. The beam could easily be a trap so letting Shepard live is not an actual immediate threat
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:42
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
It's just as improbable, neither is impossible.spotlessvoid wrote...
Way to dodge the question.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenientspotlessvoid wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient
No, it's straight ****ing retarded. The Reapers literally put in a back door to an impenetrable station, and have it drop you off in an unknown hidden room that just so happens to be the only way to defeat them
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:43
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You assume she is falling like in ME2.magnetite wrote...
Let's do a physics lesson. Let's pretend Earth doesn't have an atmosphere and there is gravity in space. So Shepard falls 100 kilometers and wakes up.
Force= Mass x Acceleration.
If that was real, the fall would have killed him.
#65716
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:44
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
"We have set up this giant structure as a trap, but just to be sure shoot everyone but Shep."spotlessvoid wrote...
Harbinger wants an indoctrinated Shepard to make their victory easier. Quite possible Shepard's will made that impossible until he was weakened significantly by a near blast or shuttle crash. The beam could easily be a trap so letting Shepard live is not an actual immediate threat
"Shepard would be useful to sabotage this cycles resistance."
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:45
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It's no more retarded than to assume everything is still going according to plan.spotlessvoid wrote...
No, it's straight ****ing retarded. The Reapers literally put in a back door to an impenetrable station, and have it drop you off in an unknown hidden room that just so happens to be the only way to defeat themMegumiAzusa wrote...
It's just as improbable, neither is impossible.spotlessvoid wrote...
Way to dodge the question.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep surviving it all just so she can be indoctrinated at the right time. How convenientspotlessvoid wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
Why does the beam lead to the control panel?
Dozens of kilometers long and it goes to the only few hundred yards they are vulnerable. How convenient
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:46
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep wakes up only in high EMS destroy and doesn't look like she could do anything but hope for rescue.BleedingUranium wrote...
Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
If that is the case the game does not have an end.
The game does, the series does not.
#65720
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:47
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Way to go to end a trilogy.BleedingUranium wrote...
The game does, the series does not.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep wakes up only in high EMS destroy and doesn't look like she could do anything but hope for rescue.BleedingUranium wrote...
Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
If that is the case the game does not have an end.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:48
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
"We have set up this giant structure as a trap, but just to be sure shoot everyone but Shep."spotlessvoid wrote...
Harbinger wants an indoctrinated Shepard to make their victory easier. Quite possible Shepard's will made that impossible until he was weakened significantly by a near blast or shuttle crash. The beam could easily be a trap so letting Shepard live is not an actual immediate threat
Assuming the run is actually legit.
Considering the Normandy pick up scene has just about every single person in your squad, including Shepard, acting out of character I lean more to believe that the halucination started at the completely unexplained, out of nowhere, cut to black Mako (or whatever those vehicles are called) crash.
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:48
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Megumi do you have any explanation for the end? Something coherent?
#65723
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:49
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Way to go to end a trilogy.BleedingUranium wrote...
The game does, the series does not.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep wakes up only in high EMS destroy and doesn't look like she could do anything but hope for rescue.BleedingUranium wrote...
Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
If that is the case the game does not have an end.
Unless there is more to come
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:50
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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Way to go to end a trilogy.BleedingUranium wrote...
The game does, the series does not.MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep wakes up only in high EMS destroy and doesn't look like she could do anything but hope for rescue.BleedingUranium wrote...
Everything from the transport crash/Harby laser (take your pick) until the breath scene happens inside Shepard's head, where Harbinger attempts to convince him the Reapers' goals are good and should be his. Shepard decides what his goals are, and then wakes up.
I've just explaned the entire otherwise nonsensical ending pefectly; there is nothing even close to a mess here.
If that is the case the game does not have an end.
...that's not a counter to what I said.
#65725
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 08:52
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That scene which is so obviously tacked on? You can even hear Harby shooting a few times, bug? Hell yes.Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
"We have set up this giant structure as a trap, but just to be sure shoot everyone but Shep."spotlessvoid wrote...
Harbinger wants an indoctrinated Shepard to make their victory easier. Quite possible Shepard's will made that impossible until he was weakened significantly by a near blast or shuttle crash. The beam could easily be a trap so letting Shepard live is not an actual immediate threat
Assuming the run is actually legit.
Considering the Normandy pick up scene has just about every single person in your squad, including Shepard, acting out of character I lean more to believe that the halucination started at the completely unexplained, out of nowhere, cut to black Mako (or whatever those vehicles are called) crash.
