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[Pascal219]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

This is an older thing I still wanted to respond to;

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

 I would have more faith in AI if they weren't based on Reaper code.

I do want to trust synthetics, my paragon Shep always has. I just have sincere doubts about 'repurposing Reaper code'.

I take it you killed the geth then?

I've always made peace. This is my first playthrough where I will side with the Quarians.

Congrats Doomsday, you've successfully bought the kid's BS.

Proving the Reapers point by trying to fight them

I'm not sure what you guys are getting at here, but let me clarify my standpoint on this.

First off, I'm still playing through the game, and I might actually end up changing my mind about this, depending on how I'll experience the whole thing this time.

If I will be siding with the Quarians, it will not be because I agree with the Starbinger BS that synthetics will always turn on organics.

Several reasons:

- My Shepard trusts synthetics, but the problem I'm having with this case is the whole Reaper code thing.

We were talking about pattern recognition earlier, well, in this case I'd like to point to several things. If you have read the topic in my signature, you may be aware that I am of the opinion that Javik (and From Ashes in general) has some important things to say in the foreshadowing department. The following thing is foreshadowing synthesis IMO, but there's more to it.

Shepard: You mentioned before your people had problems with AI.
Javik: The Zha'til. They were as the Geth to this cycle.
Shepard: What happened?
Javik: Their creators lived on a dying world. It was beyond their ability to save. So they resorted to implants to enhance their intelligence.
Shepard: I think I know where this is going.
Javik: The AI seized the physical body. It could alter the genetic material at the deepest level. In time, the offspring were molded into a slave race. Few organic traces were left. They were monsters.

We're talking about a race that can't live on their homeworld any more. Sound like Quarians? Coincidence? If you let Legion use the Reaper code, and you make peace, the Geth will start uploading themselves into the suits of the Quarians to boost their immune systems and such.

That's not everything though, the Reapers were involved as well.

Javik: "In my cycle, a race called the Zha used machines, the Zha'til, as synthetic symbiotes. The Reapers subjugated the Zha'til as they have the geth. Their mechanical swarms blotted out the sky. They were brutal,
merciless."

Tali: "Keelah. What did you do?"

Javik: "We sent their star into supernova. I believe the Zha would have thanked us."

That's two times that he explicitly draws the parallel to the Geth, not to mention the creepy similarities between the Zha and the Quarians.

And then, of course, there's Legion betraying his own ideals:

Legion: an interesting choice, Shepard Commander. Your species was offered everything Geth aspire to. True unity. Understanding. Transcendence. You rejected it. You even refused the possibility of using the Old Machines' gifts to achieve it on your species' own terms. You are more like us than we thought.

I hope you understand it is not because I don't trust synthetics. It's that I don't trust Legion's sudden enthusiasm for a free Reaper upgrade. Whatever happened to achieving our own future, on our own terms?

I think it resembles a really devious trap in which Legion simply can't pass up instant ascension, and Shepard goes along because he doesn't want to kill either of his friends, all in the name of everlasting peace between synthetics and organics. Throw in Legion's sacrifice and we've got ourselves a beautiful case of synthesis foreshadowing.

It isn't for nothing that synthesis supporters always bring up this argument when debating IT-ers.

Think about it, it would be so devious. We think we're making peace between synthetics and organics, the Geth think they ascend to true AI status, the Quarians think they'll all benefit from this, but the Reapers have the last laugh.

By once again not being able to withstand the temptation to use their 'gifts', we pave the road to hell with good intentions. The Reaper code may take over the Geth, the AI will then seize control of the Quarians and we could have ourselves a new generation of Collectors.

Once again, it's not because I don't want to trust synthetics, I want to. But either I have my confirmation bias and my pattern recognition mixed up, or you guys are way too sure of yourselves that the writers would never pull such a devious trick on us, in which case I ask you: why do you believe in IT again?

I had another quote that was relevant, but I forgot what it was. I'll post it later if I can remember what it was.

Just to add my two cents. I think you maybe right. What is the only arc that Cerberus, or the Reapers via proxy, doesn't interfere in? Yup, the Rannoch arc! 

[StElmo]

GUYYYYYYSSSSS was any data mined from omega about the upcoming Indoctrination Theory DLC?

[StElmo]

Any IT DLC info from the Omega Datamining?

[hukbum]

StElmo wrote...

GUYYYYYYSSSSS was any data mined from omega about the upcoming Indoctrination Theory DLC?

Nothing as far as I know.
And "nothing" includes "no info at all".
Nobody knows what the next DLC will be.

[dorktainian]

here's a theory on the Catalyst, Shepard, and how it all fits in with IT so here goes.

At the end of each cycle, the Catalyst is born. A being of change. This change takes place gradually over a period of 50,000 years. The Catalyst is a natural progression of evolution - one which (if left unchecked) will be a trigger for evolution to follow a path where the reapers would not be able to control the younger races anymore. That’s why a 50,000 year cycle exists. Each catalyst is killed/taken and is used by the reapers as the personality in the next reaper. This would make the reaper a prison, not 'assending these creatures. A trophy of sorts which will, due to indoctrination, do exactly as the reapers want. A reminder of their conquests. A horrendous act of utter contempt for their victims.

Now the reapers wanted Shepard for this purpose. They Indoctrinated TIM. The Collectors attacked the Normandy after identifying Sheps purpose. Liara somehow managed to get the corpse before them though. Why did she give the corpse to Cerberus? That is a question I have always wondered and now i think I can nail it. Indoctrination. It is everywhere. Everyone is at risk. Liara thought she was doing the right thing.

TIM aquires the very thing indoctrination tells him will help him control the reapers. This is a hell of a motivator for TIM to throw all resources at rebuilding shep.

So Cerberus rebuild Shepard with Reaper Tech. The very thing the Reapers want TIM to do. TIM is working for them. He doesnt know it but they have suggested to him control is the way....so he follows his path.. a path given to him by the reapers.

ME3 is the process of the reapers getting Shepard to where they want him. Nothing else matters to them, only Shepard.

Therefore I think we may be being a bit too limited with IT. Maybe its not a group of individual bits and stuff. Maybe IT is ME3. Maybe it is everything?

[MegumiAzusa]

Eryri wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'll be back later, happy speculatings 

EDIT: Top! An excuse to repost these:

snip

If they don't have post breath scene content planned, then there is absolutely no excuse for this image. She's clearly smiling, at what looks like sunrise (or possibly sunset) on Earth, and there are no reapers in sight. There is nowhere in the timeline of the game as it stands, where this could possibly fit. 

Without more content, this crosses the line from teasing the fanbase to trolling it.

The scene is quite similar to this:
C/S/D:




low EMS D:


As you can see there is always a cloud break but in low EMS destroy.

[StElmo]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Eryri wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'll be back later, happy speculatings 

EDIT: Top! An excuse to repost these:

snip

If they don't have post breath scene content planned, then there is absolutely no excuse for this image. She's clearly smiling, at what looks like sunrise (or possibly sunset) on Earth, and there are no reapers in sight. There is nowhere in the timeline of the game as it stands, where this could possibly fit. 

Without more content, this crosses the line from teasing the fanbase to trolling it.

The scene is quite similar to this:
C/S/D:




low EMS D:


As you can see there is always a cloud break but in low EMS destroy.

Isn't that obvious because of the earth getting fried?

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
Shep "saving" the one from the Prothean beacon on Eden Prime disagrees.

Looks to me like he tried to save one of the VS's who was being pulled towards it but caught in it himself. Here the priorities are ok, and I don't see how saving someone is suicidal.
FF to the tube in ME3. There he didn't have any reason to approach the tube. And I didn't see any pulling similar to the one on Eden Prime. And it's not like Shep is short-sighted and needs to get closer to aim.

Auralius Carolus wrote...
You, Megumi, couldn't possibly be
right. It is an universal law that cool guys don't look at explosions...
they turn around and walk away.

Shepard did the opposite, which clearly indicates that it was not cool- at best- and indoctrination- at worst.

Universal... Law...

Also, THIS!

At the start of ME2 Shepard looking at the burning/exploding Normandy instead of getting into the escape pod.

[dorktainian]

you have noticed that this image is projected on top of a QEC havent you? Havent you?

[Auralius Carolus]

Pascal219 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

This is an older thing I still wanted to respond to;

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

 I would have more faith in AI if they weren't based on Reaper code.

I do want to trust synthetics, my paragon Shep always has. I just have sincere doubts about 'repurposing Reaper code'.

I take it you killed the geth then?

I've always made peace. This is my first playthrough where I will side with the Quarians.

Congrats Doomsday, you've successfully bought the kid's BS.

Proving the Reapers point by trying to fight them

I'm not sure what you guys are getting at here, but let me clarify my standpoint on this.

First off, I'm still playing through the game, and I might actually end up changing my mind about this, depending on how I'll experience the whole thing this time.

If I will be siding with the Quarians, it will not be because I agree with the Starbinger BS that synthetics will always turn on organics.

Several reasons:

- My Shepard trusts synthetics, but the problem I'm having with this case is the whole Reaper code thing.

We were talking about pattern recognition earlier, well, in this case I'd like to point to several things. If you have read the topic in my signature, you may be aware that I am of the opinion that Javik (and From Ashes in general) has some important things to say in the foreshadowing department. The following thing is foreshadowing synthesis IMO, but there's more to it.

Shepard: You mentioned before your people had problems with AI.
Javik: The Zha'til. They were as the Geth to this cycle.
Shepard: What happened?
Javik: Their creators lived on a dying world. It was beyond their ability to save. So they resorted to implants to enhance their intelligence.
Shepard: I think I know where this is going.
Javik: The AI seized the physical body. It could alter the genetic material at the deepest level. In time, the offspring were molded into a slave race. Few organic traces were left. They were monsters.

We're talking about a race that can't live on their homeworld any more. Sound like Quarians? Coincidence? If you let Legion use the Reaper code, and you make peace, the Geth will start uploading themselves into the suits of the Quarians to boost their immune systems and such.

That's not everything though, the Reapers were involved as well.

Javik: "In my cycle, a race called the Zha used machines, the Zha'til, as synthetic symbiotes. The Reapers subjugated the Zha'til as they have the geth. Their mechanical swarms blotted out the sky. They were brutal,
merciless."

Tali: "Keelah. What did you do?"

Javik: "We sent their star into supernova. I believe the Zha would have thanked us."

That's two times that he explicitly draws the parallel to the Geth, not to mention the creepy similarities between the Zha and the Quarians.

And then, of course, there's Legion betraying his own ideals:

Legion: an interesting choice, Shepard Commander. Your species was offered everything Geth aspire to. True unity. Understanding. Transcendence. You rejected it. You even refused the possibility of using the Old Machines' gifts to achieve it on your species' own terms. You are more like us than we thought.

I hope you understand it is not because I don't trust synthetics. It's that I don't trust Legion's sudden enthusiasm for a free Reaper upgrade. Whatever happened to achieving our own future, on our own terms?

I think it resembles a really devious trap in which Legion simply can't pass up instant ascension, and Shepard goes along because he doesn't want to kill either of his friends, all in the name of everlasting peace between synthetics and organics. Throw in Legion's sacrifice and we've got ourselves a beautiful case of synthesis foreshadowing.

It isn't for nothing that synthesis supporters always bring up this argument when debating IT-ers.

Think about it, it would be so devious. We think we're making peace between synthetics and organics, the Geth think they ascend to true AI status, the Quarians think they'll all benefit from this, but the Reapers have the last laugh.

By once again not being able to withstand the temptation to use their 'gifts', we pave the road to hell with good intentions. The Reaper code may take over the Geth, the AI will then seize control of the Quarians and we could have ourselves a new generation of Collectors.

Once again, it's not because I don't want to trust synthetics, I want to. But either I have my confirmation bias and my pattern recognition mixed up, or you guys are way too sure of yourselves that the writers would never pull such a devious trick on us, in which case I ask you: why do you believe in IT again?

I had another quote that was relevant, but I forgot what it was. I'll post it later if I can remember what it was.

Just to add my two cents. I think you maybe right. What is the only arc that Cerberus, or the Reapers via proxy, doesn't interfere in? Yup, the Rannoch arc! 

While this is logical, one must also consider that the devs have largely relied on a "more work equals better outcome" decision tablet instead of one of moral relativity and true outcome, as one may find in The Witcher.

It would certainly be true to the Reapers deceptive nature, but aside from deviating from the series tradition, it would also have to completely re-establish why the Geth help kill of the Reapers in the end, save it prove to be a long-term plot twist such as background for ME4.

[TheProtheans]

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Seival's a troll, based on the whole 'ending hate is a conspirac to tarnsh Bioware's name' thing.

@demersal: No one agrees with your ideas on the QEC, if you just keep repeatedly posting it all you do is annoy people.

I think all pro-enders are trolls.
I don't understand how someone could experience ME1 and ME2 and be ok with countless plot holes and an ending that makes no sense could like this game and how it ended.
That said they're probably just stubborn, like some other people I know.

[MaximizedAction]

Btw, what a sh*tty concept high-EMS Destroy vs. low-EMS Destroy is...

destroying the tube apparently has different degrees of actions. To me this only makes sense if I assume that the Guardian somehow affects this.
Assume face value:
high-EMS: Guardian allows to destroy Reapers and synthetics only.
low-EMS: Guardian, displeased with your attack force's readiness, decides to also destroy Earth's population.

???

There is no other other explaination that makes sense. If the Guardian didn't have a hand in this then the effects of shooting a tube depend on the size and strength of the fleet. Which doesn't make sense.

So the Reapers still have a hand in your choices no matter what. Might as well assume that you are being indoc'd right away.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:24 .

[MegumiAzusa]

StElmo wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Eryri wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'll be back later, happy speculatings 

EDIT: Top! An excuse to repost these:

snip

If they don't have post breath scene content planned, then there is absolutely no excuse for this image. She's clearly smiling, at what looks like sunrise (or possibly sunset) on Earth, and there are no reapers in sight. There is nowhere in the timeline of the game as it stands, where this could possibly fit. 

Without more content, this crosses the line from teasing the fanbase to trolling it.

The scene is quite similar to this:
C/S/D:




low EMS D:


As you can see there is always a cloud break but in low EMS destroy.

Isn't that obvious because of the earth getting fried?

Not the point. The point is that the concept of the image in question (the cloud break) is always seen (but low EMS destroy). There is no actual reason for it to happen in any case therefor it's a symbol, which occurs in all endings.

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
At the start of ME2 Shepard looking at the burning/exploding Normandy instead of getting into the escape pod.

I think Auralius forgot to add: explosions the hero him- or herself caused.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:22 .

[Auralius Carolus]

dorktainian wrote...

here's a theory on the Catalyst, Shepard, and how it all fits in with IT so here goes.

At the end of each cycle, the Catalyst is born. A being of change. This change takes place gradually over a period of 50,000 years. The Catalyst is a natural progression of evolution - one which (if left unchecked) will be a trigger for evolution to follow a path where the reapers would not be able to control the younger races anymore. That’s why a 50,000 year cycle exists. Each catalyst is killed/taken and is used by the reapers as the personality in the next reaper. This would make the reaper a prison, not 'assending these creatures. A trophy of sorts which will, due to indoctrination, do exactly as the reapers want. A reminder of their conquests. A horrendous act of utter contempt for their victims.

Now the reapers wanted Shepard for this purpose. They Indoctrinated TIM. The Collectors attacked the Normandy after identifying Sheps purpose. Liara somehow managed to get the corpse before them though. Why did she give the corpse to Cerberus? That is a question I have always wondered and now i think I can nail it. Indoctrination. It is everywhere. Everyone is at risk. Liara thought she was doing the right thing.

TIM aquires the very thing indoctrination tells him will help him control the reapers. This is a hell of a motivator for TIM to throw all resources at rebuilding shep.

So Cerberus rebuild Shepard with Reaper Tech. The very thing the Reapers want TIM to do. TIM is working for them. He doesnt know it but they have suggested to him control is the way....so he follows his path.. a path given to him by the reapers.

ME3 is the process of the reapers getting Shepard to where they want him. Nothing else matters to them, only Shepard.

Therefore I think we may be being a bit too limited with IT. Maybe its not a group of individual bits and stuff. Maybe IT is ME3. Maybe it is everything?

I like it. According to the Leviathans the Reapers are looking for "something" and it's clear that they find Shepard to be "different" in some way and very desirable. Perhaps they see him/her as an Apex in humanity, which is an Apex in species thusly validating both lore and this theory.

Admittedly, we don't know what they're looking for, or even if the Leviathans can be trusted, (I'd say they can't. They've been hiding for untold millenia, yet they can knock Reapers out of the sky with ease? Bullcrap.)

It's certainly not close to established fact, but it's a solid enough theory to watch out for.

[Auralius Carolus]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
At the start of ME2 Shepard looking at the burning/exploding Normandy instead of getting into the escape pod.

I think Auralius forgot to add: explosions the hero him- or herself caused.

And being stuck in massive container of BOOM doesn't count anyway. Which way are you supposed to walk when everything around you is exploding? No cool points lost.

[Fur28]

TheProtheans wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Seival's a troll, based on the whole 'ending hate is a conspirac to tarnsh Bioware's name' thing.

@demersal: No one agrees with your ideas on the QEC, if you just keep repeatedly posting it all you do is annoy people.

I think all pro-enders are trolls.
I don't understand how someone could experience ME1 and ME2 and be ok with countless plot holes and an ending that makes no sense could like this game and how it ended.
That said they're probably just stubborn, like some other people I know.

the reason i believe they are trolls is that they dont response to bad things about the ending with why they like the ending,  mostly i just read them answering "nope, you´re wrong, the endings are okay, EC wasn´t needed"

since i´m new on BSN maybe i missed the pro-enders who defended the endings with reasons, but who knows, 2 people can look at something and come with two different opinions about it... example:  did you know there are people who though jersey shore was good?

Modifié par Fur28, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:29 .

[TheProtheans]

Fur28 wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Seival's a troll, based on the whole 'ending hate is a conspirac to tarnsh Bioware's name' thing.

@demersal: No one agrees with your ideas on the QEC, if you just keep repeatedly posting it all you do is annoy people.

I think all pro-enders are trolls.
I don't understand how someone could experience ME1 and ME2 and be ok with countless plot holes and an ending that makes no sense could like this game and how it ended.
That said they're probably just stubborn, like some other people I know.

the reason i believe they are trolls is that they dont response to bad things about the ending with why they like the ending,  mostly i just read them answering "nope, you´re wrong, the endings are okay, EC wasn´t needed"

since i´m new on BSN maybe i missed the pro-enders who defended the endings with reasons, but who knows, 2 people can look at something and come with two different opinions about it... example:  did you know there are people who though jersey shore was good?

I don't know anyone who watches it but I know people who watch the shows inspired by it.
I myself could never bring myself to watch such crap.
It's mostly girls that watch that crap.


I don't think pro-enders ever defended with reasons, other than that Bioware should not make ending DLC for whiney fans.
Which isn't a very good reason.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:34 .

[Auralius Carolus]

Fur28 wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Seival's a troll, based on the whole 'ending hate is a conspirac to tarnsh Bioware's name' thing.

@demersal: No one agrees with your ideas on the QEC, if you just keep repeatedly posting it all you do is annoy people.

I think all pro-enders are trolls.
I don't understand how someone could experience ME1 and ME2 and be ok with countless plot holes and an ending that makes no sense could like this game and how it ended.
That said they're probably just stubborn, like some other people I know.

the reason i believe they are trolls is that they dont response to bad things about the ending with why they like the ending,  mostly i just read them answering "nope, you´re wrong, the endings are okay, EC wasn´t needed"

since i´m new on BSN maybe i missed the pro-enders who defended the endings with reasons, but who knows, 2 people can look at something and come with two different opinions about it... example:  did you know there are people who though jersey shore was good?

Never underestimate what delusions, stupidity and bad taste can do when properly mixed. Given the state of the world right now, I'd say even when improperly mixed. But The Jersey Shore? Madness!

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Btw, what a sh*tty concept high-EMS Destroy vs. low-EMS Destroy is...

destroying the tube apparently has different degrees of actions. To me this only makes sense if I assume that the Guardian somehow affects this.
Assume face value:
high-EMS: Guardian allows to destroy Reapers and synthetics only.
low-EMS: Guardian, displeased with your attack force's readiness, decides to also destroy Earth's population.

???

There is no other other explaination that makes sense. If the Guardian didn't have a hand in this then the effects of shooting a tube depend on the size and strength of the fleet. Which doesn't make sense.

So the Reapers still have a hand in your choices no matter what. Might as well assume that you are being indoc'd right away.

It is based on the state of the Crucible. In low EMS it is even said that it's severely damaged. Nothing the Reapers can do but completely destroy it at that point.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
At the start of ME2 Shepard looking at the burning/exploding Normandy instead of getting into the escape pod.

I think Auralius forgot to add: explosions the hero him- or herself caused.

This doesn't make looking at the exploding Normandy instead of getting into the pod any better in terms of character and logic.

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
It is based on the state of the Crucible. In low EMS it is even said that it's severely damaged. Nothing the Reapers can do but completely destroy it at that point.

Nice young Chakwas you got there.

Ok, I forgot that line. Of course the different outcomes then make sense. And so I again feel convinced that the EC establishes a good balance between the different interpretations.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:43 .

[Mystical Taurus]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Btw, what a sh*tty concept high-EMS Destroy vs. low-EMS Destroy is...

destroying the tube apparently has different degrees of actions. To me this only makes sense if I assume that the Guardian somehow affects this.
Assume face value:
high-EMS: Guardian allows to destroy Reapers and synthetics only.
low-EMS: Guardian, displeased with your attack force's readiness, decides to also destroy Earth's population.

???

There is no other other explaination that makes sense. If the Guardian didn't have a hand in this then the effects of shooting a tube depend on the size and strength of the fleet. Which doesn't make sense.

So the Reapers still have a hand in your choices no matter what. Might as well assume that you are being indoc'd right away.

It's my understanding that it has to do with how much damage the crucible takes during its approach.  A high ems means enough assets were available, (even if they're 25 multiplayer promoted krogan firing shotguns from a nearby asteroid ), to prevent the Reapers from causing a lot of damage.  Hence in a high EMS Starbinger says the crucible device is largely intact.  Whereas in low EMS, a number of their strikes do get through, casuing severe damage to the crucible's functionality. 

[Fur28]

TheProtheans wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I think Seival's a troll, based on the whole 'ending hate is a conspirac to tarnsh Bioware's name' thing.

@demersal: No one agrees with your ideas on the QEC, if you just keep repeatedly posting it all you do is annoy people.

I think all pro-enders are trolls.
I don't understand how someone could experience ME1 and ME2 and be ok with countless plot holes and an ending that makes no sense could like this game and how it ended.
That said they're probably just stubborn, like some other people I know.

the reason i believe they are trolls is that they dont response to bad things about the ending with why they like the ending,  mostly i just read them answering "nope, you´re wrong, the endings are okay, EC wasn´t needed"

since i´m new on BSN maybe i missed the pro-enders who defended the endings with reasons, but who knows, 2 people can look at something and come with two different opinions about it... example:  did you know there are people who though jersey shore was good?

I don't know anyone who watches it but I know people who watch the shows inspired by it.
I myself could never bring myself to watch such crap.
It's mostly girls that watch that crap.


I don't think pro-enders ever defended with reasons, other than that Bioware should not make ending DLC for whiney fans.
Which isn't a very good reason.

My friends told me to watch JS because it was so stupid i would laugh, i did laugh
Also if it wasn´t for JS i think i would have never discovered Sex House by The Onion

And whats up with "Bioware should not make ending DLC", do they think they´re looking like badasses standing their ground or are wannabe hipsters because hating the endings is to mainstream

edit: Top

Modifié par Fur28, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:47 .

[MaximizedAction]

Mystical Taurus wrote...
It's my understanding that it has to do with how much damage the crucible takes during its approach.  A high ems means enough assets were available, (even if they're 25 multiplayer promoted krogan firing shotguns from a nearby asteroid ), to prevent the Reapers from causing a lot of damage.  Hence in a high EMS Starbinger says the crucible device is largely intact.  Whereas in low EMS, a number of their strikes do get through, casuing severe damage to the crucible's functionality. 

Yes, you're correct. I forgot those EC lines.
Damn, it's been at least a month since I played ME3 the last time. I should at least try and get my facts straight.

So, sorry for that.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:49 .