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[Fur28]

Mystical Taurus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Btw, what a sh*tty concept high-EMS Destroy vs. low-EMS Destroy is...

destroying the tube apparently has different degrees of actions. To me this only makes sense if I assume that the Guardian somehow affects this.
Assume face value:
high-EMS: Guardian allows to destroy Reapers and synthetics only.
low-EMS: Guardian, displeased with your attack force's readiness, decides to also destroy Earth's population.

???

There is no other other explaination that makes sense. If the Guardian didn't have a hand in this then the effects of shooting a tube depend on the size and strength of the fleet. Which doesn't make sense.

So the Reapers still have a hand in your choices no matter what. Might as well assume that you are being indoc'd right away.

It's my understanding that it has to do with how much damage the crucible takes during its approach.  A high ems means enough assets were available, (even if they're 25 multiplayer promoted krogan firing shotguns from a nearby asteroid ), to prevent the Reapers from causing a lot of damage.  Hence in a high EMS Starbinger says the crucible device is largely intact.  Whereas in low EMS, a number of their strikes do get through, casuing severe damage to the crucible's functionality. 

There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

Modifié par Fur28, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:50 .

[RavenEyry]

Mystical Taurus wrote...

It's my understanding that it has to do with how much damage the crucible takes during its approach.  A high ems means enough assets were available, (even if they're 25 multiplayer promoted krogan firing shotguns from a nearby asteroid ), to prevent the Reapers from causing a lot of damage.  Hence in a high EMS Starbinger says the crucible device is largely intact.  Whereas in low EMS, a number of their strikes do get through, casuing severe damage to the crucible's functionality. 

But isn't the crucible supposed to be a giant battery? I'd have thought it taking damage would make it just not work instead of making the reaper-code deleting flash of light also melt flesh.

[RavenEyry]

Fur28 wrote...

There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

I thought that's what happened anyway.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

And so I again feel convinced that the EC establishes a good balance between the different interpretations.

For some points, on others they messed up because of time and other constraints. You can also see in that video a bug Leviathan introduced as it doesn't play the visions anymore.

[Fur28]

RavenEyry wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

I thought that's what happened anyway.

 nuh uh, remember that in literal we all become a happy family sitcom, but with some husks as the stars

[MaximizedAction]

Fur28 wrote...
There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

That's...what I would expect of a real mass mutation going wrong. But that would make the Synthesis ending less romantic and thus less perfect looking.

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

That's...what I would expect of a real mass mutation going wrong. But that would make the Synthesis ending less romantic and thus less perfect looking.

Problem with that is you only get the option because it's valid. Having mutated stuff that is not viable doesn't serve the Guardians purpose.

[ElSuperGecko]

Fur28 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

I thought that's what happened anyway.

 nuh uh, remember that in literal we all become a happy family sitcom, but with some husks as the stars

Yes, one big blissfully happy synthesised family, marching happily towards these new "homes" that the Reapers are so helpfully constructing for us.

Ignore the smell of burnt flesh.  And the slick, red, floors.  And the distant screaming.  You are synthesised.  You are happy.  All is well.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRP.

[MaximizedAction]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

And so I again feel convinced that the EC establishes a good balance between the different interpretations.

For some points, on others they messed up because of time and other constraints. You can also see in that video a bug Leviathan introduced as it doesn't play the visions anymore.

Oh the ones Shep sees while listening to the Guardian? Ok...

And btw, I love how this small "Game Saved" thingy pops up when the cutscene triggers after you pick your choice. And of course this is only for the game to know what cutscenes to play...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
Problem with that is you only get the option because it's valid. Having mutated stuff that is not viable doesn't serve the Guardians purpose.

Clearly...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:03 .

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

And so I again feel convinced that the EC establishes a good balance between the different interpretations.

For some points, on others they messed up because of time and other constraints. You can also see in that video a bug Leviathan introduced as it doesn't play the visions anymore.

Oh the ones Shep sees while listening to the Guardian? Ok...

And btw, I love how this small "Game Saved" thingy pops up when the cutscene triggers after you pick your choice. And of course this is only for the game to know what cutscenes to play...

The game doesn't need the save, but it's nice if your PC would crash. Also on PC you can save it in another profile to always have a quick reference for the ending and of course to look through the save file, where opt out for example is showing that everyone dies.

MaximizedAction wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Problem with that is you only get the option because it's valid. Having mutated stuff that is not viable doesn't serve the Guardians purpose.

Clearly...

Have a little faith.

[dorktainian]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

I thought that's what happened anyway.

 nuh uh, remember that in literal we all become a happy family sitcom, but with some husks as the stars

Yes, one big blissfully happy synthesised family, marching happily towards these new "homes" that the Reapers are so helpfully constructing for us.

Ignore the smell of burnt flesh.  And the slick, red, floors.  And the distant screaming.  You are synthesised.  You are happy.  All is well.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRP.

ssshwsssssssswussssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsssshhhhhhhhhhhhwusssssssssswusssssshhhhh  (deep inhale of breath) where the hell am i?

[RavenEyry]

Would all synthesised beings head toward the nearest showers to be cleaned before working for our benevolent reaper overlords.

[Fur28]

dorktainian wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
There should have been a low EMS synthesis, so we could see it go wrong.
and see the races become some sort of weird organic robot mutation... then die, oh and they vomit green before dying:sick:

I thought that's what happened anyway.

 nuh uh, remember that in literal we all become a happy family sitcom, but with some husks as the stars

Yes, one big blissfully happy synthesised family, marching happily towards these new "homes" that the Reapers are so helpfully constructing for us.

Ignore the smell of burnt flesh.  And the slick, red, floors.  And the distant screaming.  You are synthesised.  You are happy.  All is well.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRP.

ssshwsssssssswussssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsssshhhhhhhhhhhhwusssssssssswusssssshhhhh  (deep inhale of breath) where the hell am i?

"we´re at home son, we´re at home" John Husk says as he and his son Husky walks towards the horizon where new adventures awaits them.

I´m pretty sure this is what happens according to the slideshows

[dorktainian]

unless were all really like these guys?

[MegumiAzusa]

RavenEyry wrote...

Would all synthesised beings head toward the nearest showers to be cleaned before working for our benevolent reaper overlords.

I just came back from my shower

[hukbum]

Wow ... with all that connected stuff, everybody in the whole galaxy would know what happened to her/his relatives. Look, that huskthingy over there - that's my son/daughter/wife/husband/grandma/grandpa ...
Not to mention Krogans and Turians and the new Brute family-members.
Krogan: "He got my fathers arms ..."
Turian: "... and my mothers head ..."

Damn ... thinking about that ... that's really sick stuff.

Modifié par hukbum, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:56 .

[MegumiAzusa]

I actually can imagine a Krogan making such jokes

[shepskisaac]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Mystical Taurus wrote...
It's my understanding that it has to do with how much damage the crucible takes during its approach.  A high ems means enough assets were available, (even if they're 25 multiplayer promoted krogan firing shotguns from a nearby asteroid ), to prevent the Reapers from causing a lot of damage.  Hence in a high EMS Starbinger says the crucible device is largely intact.  Whereas in low EMS, a number of their strikes do get through, casuing severe damage to the crucible's functionality. 

Yes, you're correct. I forgot those EC lines.
Damn, it's been at least a month since I played ME3 the last time. I should at least try and get my facts straight.

So, sorry for that.

It's not just a line. There's an entire new cutscene in EC showing Reapers attacking and damaging the Crucible in low EMS

[MaximizedAction]

Yeah, sorry for posting pre-EC info, but I think I got the memo now: I was inexcusably wrong.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 décembre 2012 - 01:16 .

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Yeah, sorry for posting pre-EC info, but I think I got the memo now: I was inexcusably wrong.

Yes, shame on you! How could you commit such an atrocity

[Rifneno]

My favorite EC scene was the one where a Reaper capital ship grabs a cruiser or something in its tentacles and just starts slowly crushing it. What, was it out of ammo? In what circumstance was grabbing it and crushing it the safest and most efficient method to destroy it?

[Fur28]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Yeah, sorry for posting pre-EC info, but I think I got the memo now: I was inexcusably wrong.

Yes, shame on you! How could you commit such an atrocity

no other choice, here´s your katana, Seppuku time
remember It´s better to die with honor than becoming a synthetysed slave

[Linkforlife]

Rifneno wrote...

My favorite EC scene was the one where a Reaper capital ship grabs a cruiser or something in its tentacles and just starts slowly crushing it. What, was it out of ammo? In what circumstance was grabbing it and crushing it the safest and most efficient method to destroy it?

That was Derpy the Reaper, the others wanted to leave him in Dark Space, but he gets so terribly lonely. That cycle was a bad one for Reaper making.

(I apologize profusely for this stupid joke)

Modifié par Linkforlife, 13 décembre 2012 - 01:43 .

[Restrider]

Rifneno wrote...

My favorite EC scene was the one where a Reaper capital ship grabs a cruiser or something in its tentacles and just starts slowly crushing it. What, was it out of ammo? In what circumstance was grabbing it and crushing it the safest and most efficient method to destroy it?

Rule of cool, man- rule of cool...
It's the Reaper analogue to a headbutting krogan I guess.
Edit: And since I am on top, I will shamelessly promote my IT-Flavour poll!

Modifié par Restrider, 13 décembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Fur28 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Yeah, sorry for posting pre-EC info, but I think I got the memo now: I was inexcusably wrong.

Yes, shame on you! How could you commit such an atrocity

no other choice, here´s your katana, Seppuku time
remember It´s better to die with honor than becoming a synthetysed slave

You might want to give him a Tanto instead of a Katana as commiting Seppuku with a Katana would be extremely hard to pull of due to the length of the blade:whistle: