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[dorktainian]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

Hello everyone!

Sorry if this info has already been posted... This thread is out of control!! TL;DNR!!!!!

Here!



Location: CITADEL or near it.
Voice actors: of Ashley, Kaiden and Joker.
Music: Very sad. Very emotional.
Size: Huge! Whole cast of writters and all resources possibly involved.

If this stuff is legit, it is looking good for IT.

Now... SPECULATE!!!!

shep in the rubble for the win.

[RavenEyry]

Adding in sad and positive music? Potential for multiple outcomes to the DLC perhaps?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

Hello everyone!

Sorry if this info has already been posted... This thread is out of control!! TL;DNR!!!!!

Here!



Location: CITADEL or near it.
Voice actors: of Ashley, Kaiden and Joker.
Music: Very sad. Very emotional.
Size: Huge! Whole cast of writters and all resources possibly involved.

If this stuff is legit, it is looking good for IT and DO NOT expect a happy ending... It's going to be tragic! 

Now... SPECULATE!!!!

I fully expect sadness and tradegy almost no matter what choices you make or made, the war with the Reapers is not one which should be possible to win without losses. However I sincerily hope that if it is IT that there is at least one good outcome for Shepard.

I have nothing against a hero making the ultimate sacrifice, but in a game based on choices it should not be the only possible outcome (one of my main gripes with the litteral endings as well, minus the Destroy breath scene).

Also Shepard made way too many promises regarding coming back alive or what to do once it is over to not have the option of fulfilling those promises.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 13 décembre 2012 - 09:58 .

[IronSabbath88]

This is exciting.

I also agree, while there should be SOME sacrifices, I don't think it should all be outright tragic, and that positive music thing from Hulick gives me hope on that matter.

Then again, if the ending wasn't all really there, maybe Anderson is still alive and he makes the ultimate sacrifice in this DLC? That would definitely warrant some really sad, emotional music as we say goodbye.

*tear*

[dorktainian]

maybe finding shepard alive, but having used destroy all his cybernetics are failing? that would be tragic.

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

I fully expect sadness and tradegy almost no matter what choices you make or made, the war with the Reapers is not one which should be possible to win without losses. However I sincerily hope that if it is IT that there is at least one good outcome for Shepard. 

I have nothing against a hero making the ultimate sacrifice, but in a game based on choices it should not be the only possible outcome (one of my main gripes with the litteral endings as well, minus the Destroy breath scene).

Also Shepard made way too many promises regarding coming back alive or what to do once it is over to not have the option of fulfilling those promises.

Agreed. Part of my reasons for supporting the IT is because the game needs to have the possibility of earning a more positive ending. It should be difficult to accomplish, like getting the whole squad through the suicide mission, but it should be possible if you made the right decisions.

If, after 9 months of stringing us along, they release an IT dlc only for it to be another misery-fest, then I will be a most unhappy bunny. In fact I'll be a right p*ssed off bunny to tell the truth!

Modifié par Eryri, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:08 .

[401 Kill]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This is exciting.

I also agree, while there should be SOME sacrifices, I don't think it should all be outright tragic, and that positive music thing from Hulick gives me hope on that matter.

Then again, if the ending wasn't all really there, maybe Anderson is still alive and he makes the ultimate sacrifice in this DLC? That would definitely warrant some really sad, emotional music as we say goodbye.

*tear*

Just remember, this is all unconfirmed rumors. But with all the effort they seem to be putting into it, this is definitely going to be good.

[dorktainian]

Alex_Dur4and wrote...

Hello everyone!

Sorry if this info has already been posted... This thread is out of control!! TL;DNR!!!!!

Here!



Location: CITADEL or near it.
Voice actors: of Ashley, Kaiden and Joker.
Music: Very sad. Very emotional.
Size: Huge! Whole cast of writters and all resources possibly involved.

If this stuff is legit, it is looking good for IT and DO NOT expect a happy ending... It's going to be tragic! 

Now... SPECULATE!!!!

[spotlessvoid]

An RPG game with this much variation over 3 games should be able to accommodate a variety of endings, both happy and sad

[DoomsdayDevice]

[dorktainian]

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

[IronSabbath88]

401 Kill wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

This is exciting.

I also agree, while there should be SOME sacrifices, I don't think it should all be outright tragic, and that positive music thing from Hulick gives me hope on that matter.

Then again, if the ending wasn't all really there, maybe Anderson is still alive and he makes the ultimate sacrifice in this DLC? That would definitely warrant some really sad, emotional music as we say goodbye.

*tear*

Just remember, this is all unconfirmed rumors. But with all the effort they seem to be putting into it, this is definitely going to be good.

Of course I know that.

I'm getting a brand new HD TV for Christmas and I really hope this DLC reinvigorates my love for the entire Mass Effect trilogy. I would gladly play through all 3 games again in glorious high definition.

[Xd2delo]

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

Second this.  Otherwise what do they do?  Pull a KOTOR and make one outcome canon?  Make prequels?  I just can't see those working, particularly the prequels.  Folks have mentioned the First Contact War (which, if you want human protagonists, is pretty much the only other major event humanity has been associated with in the ME Galaxy).  But the thing there is, so much of what many people enjoy about ME is wandering around the galaxy and meeting all the inexplicably humanoid aliens and their cultures.  Can't do much of that in the middle of a war with the Turians.  I mean did humanity even have contact with any other species, much less commerce and diplomacy?  Plus way to lower the stakes.  You'd go from saving the galaxy to playing a smaller role in a minor conflict that we already know the outcome of.  I'm not saying that smaller stories can't be just as rich as epics, but you take my point, I hope.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

There should be one end to the Reapers, dead Reapers, after they are restored to their glory as not beeing controlled by anyone or anything.

However how it is achieved, Shepard's fate, your squads fate and the fate of the rest of Galaxy in the aftermath is waht should be varied.

...

You know now that I think about it, possibly the most evil move Bioware could make would be to place us in situation where someone has to die in order to stop the Reapers. It could be Shepard, but any of the two Squadmates with you could volunteer to make the sacrifice instead.

The reason this would be evil is that, at least the way i play, I always bring my LI and my favorite party member to the big, main missions meaning the choice would be a truly painful one.

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Edit: But anyway a single ending could also lead into my own idea for the next ME game, a game which would focus on the broken galaxy following the war, ons haping and rebuilding it even as new races rise to fill the power vacuum of the war and the inevitable tension that might cause.

No big dark threat, just a galaxy in confusion and in need of guidance.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:20 .

[Eryri]

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

Actually I agree, it would make it easier to make ME4. Bioware made a rod for their own back if the three current endings are meant to be literal. As similar as they were presented (pre EC), they represent wildly different outcomes, that will be difficult if not impossible to all follow up on in any possible ME4.

One of the attractions of IT is that it naturally erases those 3 dreadful and impractical endings and allows the franchise to go forward.

If Bioware have to have multiple endings, then perhaps they should take the optimum ending (with Shep's survival) as the canon one?

Modifié par Eryri, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:23 .

[dorktainian]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

There should be one end to the Reapers, dead Reapers, after they are restored to their glory as not beeing controlled by anyone or anything.

However how it is achieved, Shepard's fate, your squads fate and the fate of the rest of Galaxy in the aftermath is waht should be varied.

...

You know now that I think about it, possibly the most evil move Bioware could make would be to place us in situation where someone has to die in order to stop the Reapers. It could be Shepard, but any of the two Squadmates with you could volunteer to make the sacrifice instead.

The reason this would be evil is that, at least the way i play, I always bring my LI and my favorite party member to the big, main missions meaning the choice would be a truly painful one.

oh my god...what if your LI is a traitor and shep has to gun them down?  what if Joker gives into the inevitable bone breaking frenzy that is edi?  What if EDI is revealed as a traitor and you have to kill joker who is protecting her?  what if shep is found but he is not the same shep anymore?   speculations.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Eryri wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

Actually I agree, it would make it easier to make ME4. Bioware made a rod for their own back if the three current endings are meant to be literal. As similar as they were presented (pre EC), they represent wildly different outcomes. 

One of the attractions of IT is that it naturally erases those 3 dreadful and impractical endings and allows the franchise to go forward.

If Bioware have to have multiple endings, then perhaps they should take the optimum ending (with Shep's survival) as the canon one?

Especilaly since how would you set a game in which the Reapers are watching over the Galaxy? What threat could you throw at said galaxy when the Reapers have had millions of years to perfect their technology, technology they would share with an entire galaxy of united beeings? And then there is Indoctrination.

You would need some serious suspension of disbelief to imagine an invasion force which would not be utterly annihilated by the power the Galaxy could bring to bear.

This goes for smaller in Galaxy conflicts as well (even if Synthesis "perfect understanding" should prevent that) Can you imagien anything escalating beyond  a skirmish while the Reapers are watching?

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:28 .

[dorktainian]

magnetite wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

is it only me that actually thinks there should be ONE ENDING? this would make it easier to proceed onwards with ME4. Do we end the reaper threat? yes? ok then the ending should be one ending. All choices can merge right at the end into the final outcome. dead reapers and dead star brat.

Technically each universe and life has only one outcome. We just make different choices along the way.

Birth, death, and all the multitudes of choices in between. It all ends up the same for everyone.

 apart from in the original endings - and that is the problem.  we cannot associate them as endings because there is no conclusion.

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

You know now that I think about it, possibly the most evil move Bioware could make would be to place us in situation where someone has to die in order to stop the Reapers. It could be Shepard, but any of the two Squadmates with you could volunteer to make the sacrifice instead. 

The reason this would be evil is that, at least the way i play, I always bring my LI and my favorite party member to the big, main missions meaning the choice would be a truly painful one.

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I thought something like this would happen during my first playthrough. That's why for my squadmates on Priority Earth, I chose Edi, who would only lose a replaceable robot avatar, and Javik, who was planning to off-himself anyway.

Modifié par Eryri, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:31 .

[spotlessvoid]

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Article has been removed. Lot of untrue stuff...but what? We need a backup copy

[MaximizedAction]

Eryri wrote...
I thought something like this would happen during my first playthrough. That's why for my squadmates on Priority Earth, I chose Edi, who would only lose a replaceable robot avatar, and Javik, who was planning to off-himself anyway.

Dat feel.

I don't know where I got this from but I expected my squadmates to die somewhere during or after the beamrun, so for some reason I was a d*ck and picked my LI Liara (and Javik). Maybe I wanted a tragic moment to at least feel something during the London sequences.

Sadly, the only feel I received was that of deep confusion.

I want emotions god damnit! So that next DLC better deliver some!

[dorktainian]

oh well time for bed... back in about 7 hours.......