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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MaximizedAction wrote...

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I thought something like this would happen during my first playthrough. That's why for my squadmates on Priority Earth, I chose Edi, who would only lose a replaceable robot avatar, and Javik, who was planning to off-himself anyway.


Dat feel.

I don't know where I got this from but I expected my squadmates to die somewhere during or after the beamrun, so for some reason I was a d*ck and picked my LI Liara (and Javik). Maybe I wanted a tragic moment to at least feel something during the London sequences.

Sadly, the only feel I received was that of deep confusion.

I want emotions god damnit! So that next DLC better deliver some!

Well, they said high potential for tears...:whistle:
I brought Liara, my LI, with me too (and either Garrus or Ashley), though I was more hoping they wouldn't die than expecting them to.

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I don't care what happens as long as they make gone starchild, reason for Reapers existing, and synthesis. The final scene could be javik laying an egg sack, as long as those 3 things are fixed

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DrTsoni wrote...
Well, they said high potential for tears...:whistle:
I brought Liara, my LI, with me too (and either Garrus or Ashley), though I was more hoping they wouldn't die than expecting them to.


I didn't expect it because I'm such a pessimist, I think I got spoilered about that bit, can't remember where.
But hey, all the spoilers I thought I read prior to finishing the game (made the mistake of re-watching awesome sequences on youtube and reading the comments) where BS from trolls who didn't really understand what they saw or played. Like for instance, that the kid was Harbinger or that TIM was indoctrinated.

While those are likely, they aren't facts at all stated explicitly in the game. Lots of people jumping to conclusions for 'professional' journalists to pick up and throw back at the fans.

So yeah, lucky for me the game's plot and ending is anything but obvious.

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Remember, high potential for tears could also mean tears of joy as Shepard is picked up from the rubble. xD

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

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That wasn't a sigh. Shepard clearly inhaled air.

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So, when do you suppose this tear inducing dlc will come out?

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

So, when do you suppose this tear inducing dlc will come out?

February 2013 or early March 2013.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 décembre 2012 - 10:57 .


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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

So, when do you suppose this tear inducing dlc will come out?

My guess is either late January or early March. They'll likely avoid February due to all the big game releases that month.

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Remember, high potential for tears could also mean tears of joy as Shepard is picked up from the rubble. xD


Must be that happy ending they were talking about.

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You know, I was just thinking about Legion's line about the Reaper code upgrades that it still carries, and I think I get it now. The code upgrades are not necessarily actual Reaper code. They might only be upgrades to the geth code that the Reapers made, not actual Reaper code implanted in the geth. It would explain why Legion was more willing to use them to upgrade the geth (You know, besides the whole, race would be destroyed without them thing.). Those upgrades weren't exclusively Reaper in nature. It's like the Thanix cannon. The tech may be used by the Reapers, but it's not exclusively Reaper tech.

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I hope it comes out much sooner than february or march. Id like to see more than just one more single player dlc. I also hope they consider supporting ME3 past the 1 yr mark because theyve done a really good job with dlc so far.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Eryri wrote...
I thought something like this would happen during my first playthrough. That's why for my squadmates on Priority Earth, I chose Edi, who would only lose a replaceable robot avatar, and Javik, who was planning to off-himself anyway.


Dat feel.

I don't know where I got this from but I expected my squadmates to die somewhere during or after the beamrun, so for some reason I was a d*ck and picked my LI Liara (and Javik). Maybe I wanted a tragic moment to at least feel something during the London sequences.

Sadly, the only feel I received was that of deep confusion.

I want emotions god damnit! So that next DLC better deliver some!

Lol, I did the same!
In my first playthrough, I messed up and had no LI, but I usually had Liara/Garrus as my team. Expecting a Virmire-esque decision at the ending, I replaced Garrus with Javik. If he had to die, well, he'd die knowing that revenge was his.

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Dwailing wrote...

You know, I was just thinking about Legion's line about the Reaper code upgrades that it still carries, and I think I get it now. The code upgrades are not necessarily actual Reaper code. They might only be upgrades to the geth code that the Reapers made, not actual Reaper code implanted in the geth. It would explain why Legion was more willing to use them to upgrade the geth (You know, besides the whole, race would be destroyed without them thing.). Those upgrades weren't exclusively Reaper in nature. It's like the Thanix cannon. The tech may be used by the Reapers, but it's not exclusively Reaper tech.

Agreed. I fully support BleedingUranium's interpretation on the matter.

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I hope it comes out much sooner than february or march. Id like to see more than just one more single player dlc. I also hope they consider supporting ME3 past the 1 yr mark because theyve done a really good job with dlc so far.

This is just my opinion, but I have a feeling with so much unprecedented creative involvement in this DLC, that it may be their last hurrah for ME3. Unless, of course, the next DLC is already finished and this is the one after. So it's certainly possible we're getting at least two more.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:09 .


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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I hope it comes out much sooner than february or march. Id like to see more than just one more single player dlc. I also hope they consider supporting ME3 past the 1 yr mark because theyve done a really good job with dlc so far.


I hope they take their time and make a good job of this DLC, but it would be nice for them to put a trailer or some screenshots out before Christmas. If I knew some closure was forthcoming then I'd feel like playing the trilogy again over the holidays. Maybe even buy it fresh for ps3 so I can play it on the big tv without the dreaded mouse-itis kicking in.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

https://mobile.twitt...286053578354689

Article has been removed. Lot of untrue stuff...but what? We need a backup copy

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-12-bioware-mass-effect-4-due-late-2014-to-mid-2015

That article sums up what was said in the original story.

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Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that this can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US! NOT LIKE THE ONE DURING THE RUN THE BEAM, THIS IS CLEAR!
And all the Repers' sounds....what did the Rachni say about them?
Remember Saren? Remember his song? It was something like "SERVE SOVEREIGN"

Modifié par archangel1996, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:21 .


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archangel1996 wrote...



Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US! NOT LIKE THE ONE DURING THE RUN THE BEAM, THIS IS CLEAR!
And all the Repers' sounds....what did the Rachni say about them?


https://www.youtube....Hx-M4D9o#t=209s

God that is creepy. Both this, and Harby's line at the beam, has to be based on someone physically speaking the line "Serve us". Random sound effect my arse.

Modifié par Eryri, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:22 .


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I swear to god, those are subliminal messages. The literalists like to say "Oh, well, those are just reaper sounds! They mean nothing! There would be subtitles if it was actual dialogue.

WHY would there be subtitles if it was meant to be subliminal? Especially since they didn't add that until the Extended Cut.

Another example is in the low EMS ending when your squaddies get vaporized, I CLEARLY hear "They can't help you" from Harbinger.. again in a really subliminal way.

It's too much of a coincidence to be anything but.

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"Some souls die in battle, some die in their sleep, some die for no reason at all." - Padok Wilks

...I just heard this for the first time in someone's dream sequence on YouTube. Whoa.

Modifié par Krimzie, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:27 .


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archangel1996 wrote...



Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that this can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US! NOT LIKE THE ONE DURING THE RUN THE BEAM, THIS IS CLEAR!
And all the Repers' sounds....what did the Rachni say about them?
Remember Saren? Remember his song? It was something like "SERVE SOVEREIGN"

It's at 3:32 and is much less clear than by the beam. I hear "Save us." But there's a slight fluctuation that might be an "r".

Modifié par paxxton, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:28 .


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Eryri wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...



Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US! NOT LIKE THE ONE DURING THE RUN THE BEAM, THIS IS CLEAR!
And all the Repers' sounds....what did the Rachni say about them?


https://www.youtube....Hx-M4D9o#t=209s

God that is creepy. Both this, and Harby's line at the beam, has to be based on someone physically speaking the line "Serve us". Random sound effect my arse.


Don't forget, the London Destroyer also makes the sound during the cut scene where it mows down a bunch of allied forces.

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Krimzie wrote...

"Some souls die in battle, some die in their sleep, some die for no reason at all." - Padok Wilks

...I just heard this for the first time in someone's dream sequence on YouTube. Whoa.

Thats pretty awesome.

The dream sequences are my favorite part of the game! You get to hear fallen friends whisper the most powerfull lines that they say. "Your the only friend I've made in ten years." "It's an honor to serve with you." It's very powerful, plus, you get some dialogue afterwards that is some of my favorite - you get to see Shepard breaking down from the pressure.

I wish there was more than three dream sequences.:crying:

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paxxton wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...



Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that this can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US! NOT LIKE THE ONE DURING THE RUN THE BEAM, THIS IS CLEAR!
And all the Repers' sounds....what did the Rachni say about them?
Remember Saren? Remember his song? It was something like "SERVE SOVEREIGN"

It's at 3:32 and is much less clear than by the beam. I hear "Save us." But there's a slight fluctuation that might be an "r".

I'm not hearing an "a" sound like there would be in "save us". The "r" sound may not be clear, and without it, it sounds like "sive us" so with the "r" sound that is not too clear, it would make out to be "serve us". 

This is just my opinion.

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Guys...for the bloody ****, i know that this can be misunderstood but hear 3:33, IT'S A CLEAR SERVE US!


Sure sounds like it. Fast forward to the 0:20 mark.

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I have to say, Padok Wiks is really the best of the replacement characters in the trilogy.
Edit: And with these words said, I will also add: Bleeding out I'm out.
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Modifié par Restrider, 13 décembre 2012 - 11:50 .