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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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MWMike2011 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Nothing I can think of guys, not since learning the next DLC will have all the writers and Ham Hulick composing.


They've been talking about this DLC over on the Twitter Thread for a while, with Hendriks popping in every now and then to tease us with snippets that don't help at all, other than letting us know that ALL the writers were working on it (that's where that little gem came from). Here's hoping we hear something new in the New Year.


{enjoys a bit of fun} you know {with curious intent} a picture would be nice.  {a bit of scarcasmic drawl} they can even use a texture we'd never seen before. Wouldn't it be fun to speculate over a small bit of pixels? Though, {nods approvingly} I do think the wait will be worth it {shares personal opinion} having all the writers and the music on board will make it probably the best   {smiles with elated joy} :D:o

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The best and hopefully not the last dlc.

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just got into work....any news?

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dorktainian wrote...

just got into work....any news?


A false article on gamesurge (or something) that has supposedly had a Mike Gamble interview, BUT according to Mike Gamble he never gave said interview and the article has since been taken down. I didn't get a chance to read the article but I assume all facts false.

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heres an awesome thought for people. We accept the Citadel is above earth. Speculation has it that it has a twin in dark space. Who is to say that the citadel above earth isn't the dark space twin?

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dorktainian wrote...

heres an awesome thought for people. We accept the Citadel is above earth. Speculation has it that it has a twin in dark space. Who is to say that the citadel above earth isn't the dark space twin?


Because even if it looked exactly the same, which it probably doesn't, it wouldn't have the cities that cover the five arms.

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dorktainian wrote...

heres an awesome thought for people. We accept the Citadel is above earth. Speculation has it that it has a twin in dark space. Who is to say that the citadel above earth isn't the dark space twin?

Nice thought, but why'd they take it with them?

@BleedingUranium: Good point.

Modifié par hukbum, 14 décembre 2012 - 09:48 .


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Somewhat bemused by the assertations on the Synthesis thread. I'm not sure the proponents actually understand the implications (or their own arguments, for that matter)

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dorktainian wrote...

heres an awesome thought for people. We accept the Citadel is above earth. Speculation has it that it has a twin in dark space. Who is to say that the citadel above earth isn't the dark space twin?


But why would they do that? They would have to fly all the way back to darkspace themselves after ending this cycle.
And I don't think the Citadevil looks exactly like the Citadel
Citadel: Relay disguised as Space Station City
Citadevil: Just a relay, why disguising?

edit: :ph34r::ph34r:'ed

Modifié par Norlond, 14 décembre 2012 - 09:52 .


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Somewhat bemused by the assertations on the Synthesis thread. I'm not sure the proponents actually understand the implications (or their own arguments, for that matter)

I tried to read me into it, but over all they seem to say "no bad things shown, so nothing bad happens" (to put it very simple). Same goes for control.

Modifié par hukbum, 14 décembre 2012 - 09:56 .


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Norlond wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

heres an awesome thought for people. We accept the Citadel is above earth. Speculation has it that it has a twin in dark space. Who is to say that the citadel above earth isn't the dark space twin?


But why would they do that? They would have to fly all the way back to darkspace themselves after ending this cycle.
And I don't think the Citadevil looks exactly like the Citadel
Citadel: Relay disguised as Space Station City
Citadevil: Just a relay, why disguising?

edit: :ph34r::ph34r:'ed



I doubt it would look just like a relay though; it's still their base, they need to dock the Collector Black Arks there, and they probably need it for power too, and maybe other things.

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Somewhat bemused by the assertations on the Synthesis thread. I'm not sure the proponents actually understand the implications (or their own arguments, for that matter)


I'm not surprised Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

I doubt it would look just like a relay though; it's still their base, they need to dock the Collector Black Arks there, and they probably need it for power too, and maybe other things.


Good point, I think of it as just the Presidium Ring with a few attachments

edit: like this?

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Modifié par Norlond, 14 décembre 2012 - 10:09 .


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dorktainian

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Norlond wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I doubt it would look just like a relay though; it's still their base, they need to dock the Collector Black Arks there, and they probably need it for power too, and maybe other things.


Good point, I think of it as just the Presidium Ring with a few attachments

well it would explain why star brat never showed up on the citadel before.  i'll get mi coat.

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hukbum wrote...
I tried to read me into it, but over all they seem to say "no bad things shown, so nothing bad happens" (to put it very simple). Same goes for control.


It seems as though it's proponents are simply willing to dismiss the potential implications of their decision.  I'm being told that a quote from Arthur C Clarke about artifical intelligence being non-aggressive is proof that the Reapers will not be aggressive post-Synthesis, despite the fact that the entire point of Synthesis is that there won't actually be any such thing as an artificial intelligence any more (not that the Reapers ever were such a thing, anyway).

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I tried to read me into it, but over all they seem to say "no bad things shown, so nothing bad happens" (to put it very simple). Same goes for control.


It seems as though it's proponents are simply willing to dismiss the potential implications of their decision.  I'm being told that a quote from Arthur C Clarke about artifical intelligence being non-aggressive is proof that the Reapers will not be aggressive post-Synthesis, despite the fact that the entire point of Synthesis is that there won't actually be any such thing as an artificial intelligence any more (not that the Reapers ever were such a thing, anyway).

Hehehe ... reminds me of that "loose everything" control line. People who pick control say they trust the catalyst, but when it comes to that line, they say: "nah, he didn't mean everything".
Like I said: no downside shown = no downside.
That's why I don't read these threads anymore. It just doesn't fit into my line of thinking.
And BW did this on purpose. It would have been easy to add empty geth bodys in destroy, to show husk police in control or "not so happy" banshees in synthesis.  One more thing to wonder why they didn't add something like that.

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hukbum wrote...
Hehehe ... reminds me of that "loose everything" control line. People who pick control say they trust the catalyst, but when it comes to that line, they say: "nah, he didn't mean everything".
Like I said: no downside shown = no downside.
That's why I don't read these threads anymore. It just doesn't fit into my line of thinking.
And BW did this on purpose. It would have been easy to add empty geth bodys in destroy, to show husk police in control or "not so happy" banshees in synthesis.  One more thing to wonder why they didn't add something like that.


Which is why - literal or IT - Destroy is the only ending I can possibly support, because it's the only one that's narrated by a reliable source in Admiral Hackett.

In Control, the Shepard AI narrates from it's point of view.  In Synthesis, the (former) AI EDI speaks from her point of view.  We get no idea how the other races view those decisions.  Hackett, however, speaks from the point of view of all the organic races of the galaxy - the people we've been fighting for all along.

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hukbum wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

hukbum wrote...
I tried to read me into it, but over all they seem to say "no bad things shown, so nothing bad happens" (to put it very simple). Same goes for control.


It seems as though it's proponents are simply willing to dismiss the potential implications of their decision.  I'm being told that a quote from Arthur C Clarke about artifical intelligence being non-aggressive is proof that the Reapers will not be aggressive post-Synthesis, despite the fact that the entire point of Synthesis is that there won't actually be any such thing as an artificial intelligence any more (not that the Reapers ever were such a thing, anyway).

Hehehe ... reminds me of that "loose everything" control line. People who pick control say they trust the catalyst, but when it comes to that line, they say: "nah, he didn't mean everything".
Like I said: no downside shown = no downside.
That's why I don't read these threads anymore. It just doesn't fit into my line of thinking.
And BW did this on purpose. It would have been easy to add empty geth bodys in destroy, to show husk police in control or "not so happy" banshees in synthesis.  One more thing to wonder why they didn't add something like that.


Yep, they tried to, and successfully indoctrinated parts of the fanbase. It's truly remarkable!

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

hukbum wrote...
Hehehe ... reminds me of that "loose everything" control line. People who pick control say they trust the catalyst, but when it comes to that line, they say: "nah, he didn't mean everything".
Like I said: no downside shown = no downside.
That's why I don't read these threads anymore. It just doesn't fit into my line of thinking.
And BW did this on purpose. It would have been easy to add empty geth bodys in destroy, to show husk police in control or "not so happy" banshees in synthesis.  One more thing to wonder why they didn't add something like that.


Which is why - literal or IT - Destroy is the only ending I can possibly support, because it's the only one that's narrated by a reliable source in Admiral Hackett.

In Control, the Shepard AI narrates from it's point of view.  In Synthesis, the (former) AI EDI speaks from her point of view.  We get no idea how the other races view those decisions.  Hackett, however, speaks from the point of view of all the organic races of the galaxy - the people we've been fighting for all along.

Good to know that I'm not the only one thinking like that :)

And there are statements like this:

I can save everyone exactly because I can override the demands of moral principles.

that scare the **** out of me. What kind of thinking is that? We don't need to learn, we need to be rewritten???

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hukbum wrote...

And there are statements like this:

I can save everyone exactly because I can override the demands of moral principles.

that scare the **** out of me. What kind of thinking is that? We don't need to learn, we need to be rewritten???


I hope these people are never put in charge of any sort of position of authority in real life. Ever.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

hukbum wrote...

And there are statements like this:

I can save everyone exactly because I can override the demands of moral principles.

that scare the **** out of me. What kind of thinking is that? We don't need to learn, we need to be rewritten???


I hope these people are never put in charge of any sort of position of authority in real life. Ever.

I think it's mostly just internet toughguys at work. I doubt most of the people that demand the nuking of Iran would actually do it if given the chance.

Or maybe I just have too much faith in humanity, I do keep failing to resist engaging trolls.

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Back home for the Christmas break. Miss uni already...

So Kaidan is doing some more VA work?

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CoolioThane wrote...
So Kaidan is doing some more VA work?


Apparently so!  And if that's the case, then I think it's safe to assume Ashley will be as well!  :)

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Yep, they tried to, and successfully indoctrinated parts of the fanbase. It's truly remarkable!

Reminds me of The Wave ...

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

hukbum wrote...
Hehehe ... reminds me of that "loose everything" control line. People who pick control say they trust the catalyst, but when it comes to that line, they say: "nah, he didn't mean everything".
Like I said: no downside shown = no downside.
That's why I don't read these threads anymore. It just doesn't fit into my line of thinking.
And BW did this on purpose. It would have been easy to add empty geth bodys in destroy, to show husk police in control or "not so happy" banshees in synthesis.  One more thing to wonder why they didn't add something like that.


Which is why - literal or IT - Destroy is the only ending I can possibly support, because it's the only one that's narrated by a reliable source in Admiral Hackett.

In Control, the Shepard AI narrates from it's point of view.  In Synthesis, the (former) AI EDI speaks from her point of view.  We get no idea how the other races view those decisions.  Hackett, however, speaks from the point of view of all the organic races of the galaxy - the people we've been fighting for all along.

yay for team milky way.  now lets scrape shep up off the floor before he starts to smell.