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ElSuperGecko wrote...

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So Kaidan is doing some more VA work?


Apparently so!  And if that's the case, then I think it's safe to assume Ashley will be as well!  :)

I've been thinking:
We know that Seth Green, and the VS VAs are recording. And I think that is all regarding any other VAs.
We assume that the next DLC will take place on the Citadel.

Taking these information into account, does anyone think that the DLC will take place during the Citadel coup maybe? With the VS defending the Council and Joker... I don't know.
As it seems, the VS are just playing a crucial role in this DLC, more than the other squadmates.

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Thank God for that, Ash needs her some lovin' the kind I can't provide.

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That is aweeesome Arian

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*starts to read wall*

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as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.

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that is some mighty wall of text. kudos..

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dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

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dorktainian wrote...

that is some mighty wall of text. kudos..


If you remember me from previous encounters, then you'll come to expect it, if you know me by reputation, you'll come to demand them.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

  

I'll troll out a passage from B5 - Dust to Dust,, A revelation of sorts for one character.

"What is there left for ***** if all of creation falls around us? There's nothing. No hope, no dream, no future, no life. Unless we turn from the cycle of death toward something greater. If we are a dying people, then let us die with honor, by helping the others as no one else can."

"I don't understand."

"Because you have let them distract you. Blind you with hate. You cannot see the battle for what it is. We are fighting to save one another, we must realize we are not alone. We rise and fall together. And some of us must be sacrificed if all are to be saved. Because, if we fail in this, then none of us will be saved. And the **** will be only a memory."

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Babylon 5?

I don't watch the show, so I wouldn't know.

Either way, interesting observation, I approve.

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RavenEyry wrote...

...I need to walk the dog. I'll read it in 30.

By 'eck, it's wet and windy out there. Best weather we've had all week.

Reading time now.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.

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dorktainian wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

  

I'll troll out a passage from B5 - Dust to Dust,, A revelation of sorts for one character.

"What is there left for ***** if all of creation falls around us? There's nothing. No hope, no dream, no future, no life. Unless we turn from the cycle of death toward something greater. If we are a dying people, then let us die with honor, by helping the others as no one else can."

"I don't understand."

"Because you have let them distract you. Blind you with hate. You cannot see the battle for what it is. We are fighting to save one another, we must realize we are not alone. We rise and fall together. And some of us must be sacrificed if all are to be saved. Because, if we fail in this, then none of us will be saved. And the **** will be only a memory."

Ah yes, G'Kar.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Remember, you poor bastards asked for it.


That wall of text was well worth the wait. A well done piece of work, do you know what it was graded as yet?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.


Fine then, I'll quote Batman, who we all know is beyond reproach; "Joker's vain and likes to talk, he'll try to distract you, but don't listen, block it out and power on through."

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Remember, you poor bastards asked for it.


That wall of text was well worth the wait. A well done piece of work, do you know what it was graded as yet?


I sent it tonight, my professor has a reputation for fast grading, but not that fast.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.


*Megumi ignores the themes of the story again*


I'm replaying the end again, and the only pupose of the FOB seems to be to tell you that you can't lose sight of your goal of ridding the galaxy of the Reapers, once and for all, and that this isn't our last fight, and that there's more to come. It's everywhere!

And I'm going to read that glorious wall now, Arian. Posted Image

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Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean


"He is wrong, dead Reapers are how we win this." - Admiral Hacket

"Treat them as you would an other enemy. Show no quarter, mercy or weakness." - Justicar Samara

"You are going to kick some Reaper ass that is what you do." - Joker

"We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find a way." - Shepard

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Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.


Fine then, I'll quote Batman, who we all know is beyond reproach; "Joker's vain and likes to talk, he'll try to distract you, but don't listen, block it out and power on through."

Joker is basically the exact opposite of the Reapers...

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Babylon 5?

I don't watch the show, so I wouldn't know.

Either way, interesting observation, I approve.


At one point Delenn is sent for interogation by one of the vorlons agents (jack the ripper) to see if she is adequate for the vorlons trust.

The question he repeats is 'Who are you?'  she finds she cannot answer him and he begins to torture her.


"Unacceptable! What a sad thing you are. Unable to answer even such a simple question without falling back on references, and genealogies and what other people call you. Have you nothing of your own? Nothing to stand on that is not provided, defined, delineated, stamped, sanctioned, numbered, and approved by others? How can you expected to fight for someone else when you haven't the fairest idea who you are?"     

When delenn is nearing death, Sheridan enters and is also interogated.

"Are you willing to die friendless, alone, deserted by everyone? Because that's what may be required of you in the war that is to come.What about the people you work with, the people you call friends? Are you willing to sacrifice them? What about your family, what about your God, what about truth, what about blood, what about right, what about wrong, what about your future, what about faith, what about sin, what about hell, what about death, what about life?"       

"This body is only a shell. You can not touch me. You can not harm me. I'm not afraid."


It's all about the power of the individual.  Kosh is making sure that what they do, they do for the right reasons and are prepared to sacrifice everything they are in order to achieve it.  Do whatever is necessary.   

This is imo John Shepard.  He had the courage in the beginning to destroy the reapers, but surely over time that courage has been withering away (dreams) until in the final dream...he accepts it.  He has lost control of himself in the end..is his will strong enough to follow out his actual objective?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.


*Megumi ignores the themes of the story again*


I'm replaying the end again, and the only pupose of the FOB seems to be to tell you that you can't lose sight of your goal of ridding the galaxy of the Reapers, once and for all, and that this isn't our last fight, and that there's more to come. It's everywhere!

And I'm going to read that glorious wall now, Arian. Posted Image

I am not ignoring them, you do.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 14 décembre 2012 - 12:53 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean

Shepard, more then once used the non violent approach to solve the mission.
Justicar Samara, there is only the code, completely black and white.
Javik, ignorant racist.


Fine then, I'll quote Batman, who we all know is beyond reproach; "Joker's vain and likes to talk, he'll try to distract you, but don't listen, block it out and power on through."

Joker is basically the exact opposite of the Reapers...


-.- Megumi, I'm being facetious.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean


"He is wrong, dead Reapers are how we win this." - Admiral Hacket

"Treat them as you would an other enemy. Show no quarter, mercy or weakness." - Justicar Samara

"You are going to kick some Reaper ass that is what you do." - Joker

"We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find a way." - Shepard


Hey Raist, are you getting deja vu too?

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urrgghh manflu sucks....    



*edit* yay again...

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

as i posted on the 'Synthesis' thread, my thoughts..fwiw.... are the only mandate that shep has when he enters that room (if he really enters the room) is to destroy the reapers. He has no other mandate. Each other option is commiting a crime against everyone who put their trust in shepard to destroy the reapers. The crucible was built (app) to destroy the reapers, as a weapon of reaper destruction... nothing else.


"Keep your mind on the mission" - Commander John Shepard

"The Reapers will attempt to dissuade you, show them no mercy." - Justicar Samara

"The Reapers must be destroyed. There is no other option." - Javik the Prothean


"He is wrong, dead Reapers are how we win this." - Admiral Hacket

"Treat them as you would an other enemy. Show no quarter, mercy or weakness." - Justicar Samara

"You are going to kick some Reaper ass that is what you do." - Joker

"We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find a way." - Shepard


Hey Raist, are you getting deja vu too?


Just a little bit and I could probably dig up more quotes like that in short order.

By the way did you know that Rifneno found out that there is no less than 27 uses of the word "Nightmare" in ME3, dlc not included (which adds at least one more in the Omega DLC) and almost all the time it is used regarding or to describe the Reapers or their forces? Maybe someone should have handed Bioware a dictionary :D

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