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[Lakeshow1986]

I really do believe in the destroy ending, Shepard is effectively fighting off the indoctrination long enough to kill themselves a la Saren, Benezia and TIM. Replaying ME1 on PS3 and when Benezia talks about being trapped behind walls then Anderson mentions the walls are shifting/changing. Also that you can never see too far out once Harby blasts you.

Just interesting that Anderson only points out stuff that you have previously heard;
- Building a reaper
- Shifting Walls
- Collector Base (inc. tubes not going on forever)

Also Bailey states that the keeper tunnels that lead to the superstructure are not one in one out, that they are like an ant farm.

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Joker wont be played by Seth Green.

That's the dumbest thing ever.  The character is even based on his appearence!

It really is. I've seen a bunch of VA cast videos, and he's always so enthusiastic. Hell, he came in to say two lines for the EC, one of which was "Dammit".

I blame the people making the movie.

Maybe they can't afford his fee?

Which again is dumb considering how willing he is to do even small parts.  He's one of us, after all, and loves what he does.

[BleedingUranium]

Rifneno wrote...

The Reaper/Prothean war can be summed up in 3 words.  "Karma's a ****."

Is "****" one word, or four?

[Eryri]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Joker wont be played by Seth Green.

That's the dumbest thing ever.  The character is even based on his appearence!

It really is. I've seen a bunch of VA cast videos, and he's always so enthusiastic. Hell, he came in to say two lines for the EC, one of which was "Dammit".

I blame the people making the movie.

I think I read somewhere that they were backpedalling on the "no Seth Green" announcement. I can't find it now though. I agree it would be a ludicrous decision to make the film without him.

I suspect the whole production is a bit uncertain now due to the ending controversy.

[Dwailing]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Joker wont be played by Seth Green.

That's the dumbest thing ever.  The character is even based on his appearence!

It really is. I've seen a bunch of VA cast videos, and he's always so enthusiastic. Hell, he came in to say two lines for the EC, one of which was "Dammit".

I blame the people making the movie.

Yeah, call me crazy, but I think the movie might suck.  I could be pleasantly surprised, but I'm thinking not.

Ignore this smiley:

[Xd2delo]

Andromidius wrote...

Same with the Krogan - were raised up to help win a war, won it and were honoured, but then decided to attack their allies, got defeated and had to be neutered to keep them in line - and even then they keep trying to stir trouble.  They only change because of Wrex, Mordin and Eve's actions.

The only truely downtrodden race seems to be the Drell - and they are apperently happy and content being in servittude to the Hanar, because the alternative is even worse for them!

Yeah actually, let 's add the hanar to the list themselves; seem like a species of fun-lovin', peaceable jelly fish, until we learn they employ "indentured servant" assassins.  classy move, you cnidarian scum.

[MaximizedAction]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The Reaper/Prothean war can be summed up in 3 words.  "Karma's a ****."

Is "****" one word, or four?

Actually I expected 5 *'s...

[Lakeshow1986]

Also reminded when Shepard states;

"This ain't like any part of the Citadel I've been to". No it doesn't, does it!? Granted the Citadel is huge but it really doesn't look like it belongs.

[TheProtheans]

Andromidius wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

byne wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

The Protheans are very different to the Reapers, they give everyone a choice.
The Reapers do not, the Reapers have no care.

Become our slaves or die is not a choice.

That is the very premise of a choice.

No, its a false choice.  If I said "be my slave forever or I'll murder you in the most brutal way possible" and you knew I was willing and able to...what would your choice be?

Exactly my point.  That's what the Reapers do.  That's what the Protheans do.  Remember how they execute 'traitors'?  They tear off their limbs and force them to eat their own flesh or starve to death.

What do mean exactly your point? You just said it was a choice.
A choice is always a choice.
The Reapers lie, they do what they're going to do and your stance is irrelevant.
Your only destination is death.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:38 .

[umadcommander]

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Joker wont be played by Seth Green.

That's the dumbest thing ever.  The character is even based on his appearence!

It really is. I've seen a bunch of VA cast videos, and he's always so enthusiastic. Hell, he came in to say two lines for the EC, one of which was "Dammit".

I blame the people making the movie.

Yeah, call me crazy, but I think the movie might suck.  I could be pleasantly surprised, but I'm thinking not.

Ignore this smiley:

MIGHT suck? theyd be establishing canon which is the worst thing they could do

[BleedingUranium]

See the big white tube here?



There's a giant one of those under the Destroy ramp/side in the decision chamber, is it seen anywhere outside the non-reality sections?

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:38 .

[hukbum]

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, call me crazy, but I think the movie might suck.

But Wingcommander was a really good movie ...

[CoolioThane]

Kyrene wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Wow. I was using the fact that the Citadel was a relay before it got hax0red...and maybe the Crucible, WHICH NOONE KNOWS WHAT IT DOES, could change the Relay properties to perhaps reinforce us or something. 

I'm sorry I haven't got evidence to back this up; as I said, it's spitballing a theory. 

"wish-theory" or just throwing ideas out there. If you're going to be a **** about it....

How does my theory for what COULD happen after we wake up not conform to IT? Stop being a ****head

Cool your jets Coolio. Unless by resorting to swearing, name-calling and personal attacks you wish to reinforce the idea that you actually got nothing.

No IT DLC. And if you understand IT, no Crucible doing anything either because the decision room is an hallucination. Reinforcements from where and how, if you please?

Hmm, I'm just pissed that you've seemingly started an argument with me for presenting an idea of what could happen after the breath scene...an idea that could be "The crucible attaching to the citadel realligns the relay, or powers a separate one, allowing for a hidden race of some descript to come through and support against the Reapers, perhaps allowing a victory"

Why you've decided to start on me for theorising something when all we are trying to do on this thread is theorise what is happening, and bouncing ideas off one another beats me. What's your ****ing problem?

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Yeah, I made a thread about it like 6 months ago.  It went about as well as you'd expect.  "But all people are totally the same so the protheans must've been good at heart and stuff, you're racist!"

The Reaper/Prothean war can be summed up in 3 words.  "Karma's a ****."

You know, the Protheans are a lot like the Qunari from Dragon Age as well.  And as much as I like Javik and Sten for their abusive and abrupt personalities, the races they both come from are truely horrible and monsterous.

But yeah, the Protheans got a taste of their own medicine for sure.  When you're too used to kicking down those too weak to defend yourselves, meeting someone who outclasses you is a real shocker. 

Part of why this Cycle has potential for some form of victory.  Its diverse, relatively united and stable, has a reasonably high technological base and military strength.  Oh, and the last few Protheans scientists on Illos screwed with the Keepers - pretty much the only reason we didn't instantly lose even before Humans achieved spaceflight.

...and by that logic, the Protheans are the reason Humans didn't get to avoid this dirty war.  Those bastards.

[Rifneno]

MaximizedAction wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The Reaper/Prothean war can be summed up in 3 words.  "Karma's a ****."

Is "****" one word, or four?

Actually I expected 5 *'s...

The censor automatically goes to four regardless of the actual word length.  Were you to imply that someone had procreated with their mother, that particularly long word would still only induce 4 *'s.

[Dwailing]

Xd2delo wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Same with the Krogan - were raised up to help win a war, won it and were honoured, but then decided to attack their allies, got defeated and had to be neutered to keep them in line - and even then they keep trying to stir trouble.  They only change because of Wrex, Mordin and Eve's actions.

The only truely downtrodden race seems to be the Drell - and they are apperently happy and content being in servittude to the Hanar, because the alternative is even worse for them!

Yeah actually, let 's add the hanar to the list themselves; seem like a species of fun-lovin', peaceable jelly fish, until we learn they employ "indentured servant" assassins.  classy move, you cnidarian scum.

I think the hanar and the drell have a relationship of mutual respect, though.  I'm not denying that you have a point, but at least the relationship between the two races is equitable.

[Andromidius]

BleedingUranium wrote...

See the big white tube here?



There's a giant one of those under the Destroy ramp/side in the decision chamber, is it seen anywhere outside the non-reality sections?

Huh.  You know, I never noticed that Harbinger is 'inside' the corridor on the Citadel filled with dead bodies before.

And he always looks like he's grinning to me.  The bastard.

[TheProtheans]

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Joker wont be played by Seth Green.

That's the dumbest thing ever.  The character is even based on his appearence!

It really is. I've seen a bunch of VA cast videos, and he's always so enthusiastic. Hell, he came in to say two lines for the EC, one of which was "Dammit".

I blame the people making the movie.

Yeah, call me crazy, but I think the movie might suck.  I could be pleasantly surprised, but I'm thinking not.

Ignore this smiley:

It could very well suck.
I can undertsand Seth not getting the part, mainly because I don't think he will add to the movie because most likely it will be mostly new actors anyway.

[Rifneno]

Andromidius wrote...

Xd2delo wrote...
The whole "seeming like but then revealed to have a nasty streak" is kind of a theme.  Quarians; seem like victims until you find out they tried to wipe out the Geth.  Protheans; seem like victims until militant chauvinism is unveiled.  Levis; seemed like victims until that whole "tribute" and "enthrallment" bit came out. 

It's almost like you shouldn't just trust someone who claims to have good intentions just because they say you should.  Can't think of how that could be relevant to the end though.

Same with the Krogan - were raised up to help win a war, won it and were honoured, but then decided to attack their allies, got defeated and had to be neutered to keep them in line - and even then they keep trying to stir trouble.  They only change because of Wrex, Mordin and Eve's actions.

The only truely downtrodden race seems to be the Drell - and they are apperently happy and content being in servittude to the Hanar, because the alternative is even worse for them!

Asari.  The beautiful, peaceful, helpful race that in no way is hiding the galaxy's biggest secret so they can rule.

[BleedingUranium]

Dwailing wrote...

Xd2delo wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Same with the Krogan - were raised up to help win a war, won it and were honoured, but then decided to attack their allies, got defeated and had to be neutered to keep them in line - and even then they keep trying to stir trouble.  They only change because of Wrex, Mordin and Eve's actions.

The only truely downtrodden race seems to be the Drell - and they are apperently happy and content being in servittude to the Hanar, because the alternative is even worse for them!

Yeah actually, let 's add the hanar to the list themselves; seem like a species of fun-lovin', peaceable jelly fish, until we learn they employ "indentured servant" assassins.  classy move, you cnidarian scum.

I think the hanar and the drell have a relationship of mutual respect, though.  I'm not denying that you have a point, but at least the relationship between the two races is equitable.

That's my impression as well, similar to the Turians and the Volus.

[RavenEyry]

Okay, now I'm the one brokering peace.

CT! Kyrene! Play nicely or just ignore each other.

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The Reaper/Prothean war can be summed up in 3 words.  "Karma's a ****."

Is "****" one word, or four?

Actually I expected 5 *'s...

The censor automatically goes to four regardless of the actual word length.  Were you to imply that someone had procreated with their mother, that particularly long word would still only induce 4 *'s.

That's why I just type the stars instead of the actual word when I want to "swear" because I really don't swear in real life.  Gosh Darn It To Heck is kind of my trope, short of VERY extreme circumstances.

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...

Asari.  The beautiful, peaceful, helpful race that in no way is hiding the galaxy's biggest secret so they can rule.

Every race has skeletons in their closet. Doesn't make the whole race bad. A major thing in ME is how members of a race aren't automatically the same as every other member, unlike Star Trek and such.

[BleedingUranium]

Andromidius wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

See the big white tube here?



There's a giant one of those under the Destroy ramp/side in the decision chamber, is it seen anywhere outside the non-reality sections?

Huh.  You know, I never noticed that Harbinger is 'inside' the corridor on the Citadel filled with dead bodies before.

And he always looks like he's grinning to me.  The bastard.

Yep, I call this the offical IT Banner, along side the Solo Mastery Banner. That picture is if you're as far back against the conduit thing as you can get, looking at the left wall. Harbinger is where you go, literally.

Solo Mastery is Shepard walking away from the beam holding a Predator

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Xd2delo wrote...
The whole "seeming like but then revealed to have a nasty streak" is kind of a theme.  Quarians; seem like victims until you find out they tried to wipe out the Geth.  Protheans; seem like victims until militant chauvinism is unveiled.  Levis; seemed like victims until that whole "tribute" and "enthrallment" bit came out. 

It's almost like you shouldn't just trust someone who claims to have good intentions just because they say you should.  Can't think of how that could be relevant to the end though.

Same with the Krogan - were raised up to help win a war, won it and were honoured, but then decided to attack their allies, got defeated and had to be neutered to keep them in line - and even then they keep trying to stir trouble.  They only change because of Wrex, Mordin and Eve's actions.

The only truely downtrodden race seems to be the Drell - and they are apperently happy and content being in servittude to the Hanar, because the alternative is even worse for them!

Asari.  The beautiful, peaceful, helpful race that in no way is hiding the galaxy's biggest secret so they can rule.

Well, it seems the ME galaxy is well on its way to becoming a full blown Crapsack World if it isn't there already.