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[BlazingZephyr]

RavenEyry wrote...

BlazingZephyr wrote...

What, no obnoxiously loud cawing?

"Now, do not cry for Billy... DO NOT CRY!"

...

Win.

off topic/

[masster blaster]

Otter so was I. Hell I got there on page 200 or so.

I mean the first IT thread, and there were others too.

[BlazingZephyr]

masster blaster wrote...

Otter so was I. Hell I got there on page 200 or so.

I mean the first IT thread, and there were others too.

If it makes me important, I've lurked since about halfway through the Mk I thread...

[masster blaster]

I am just kiding otter, but um you really are going through the old threads. Dam I tried and well I lost count of the pages I found some usefull speculations to bring back up.

[smokingotter1]

RavenEyry wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

OMG, I'm going through the archives from the very first thread (for science) my god, Byne,Paxxton, hellish and fellish, Lexxor, Arian, masster blaster, and Simon (sorry I didn't mention [you]) have all been with the IT group all this time. I have too, just on reddit... anyway sorry for distraction, back to work, Mark II ahoy...just 2,000+ more pages to go.

I was there from the begining, I only started posting in mark 2.

I should have just copy pasted the entire name list from the 2000 page of Mark II because I knew I'd forget people, also, sorry masterblaster, back to work! Mark II engage!

[Leonia]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
I think it would have been more than harbinger playing the ego if they made the ending like this. I know I remember multiple people saying they felt as if the final confrontation with Anderson and TIM was Shepard's mind in turmoil. Has anyone done a write up on this?

If I recall, Otter had a really in-depth analysis about the Freudian trio. 

[smokingotter1]

leonia42 wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...
I think it would have been more than harbinger playing the ego if they made the ending like this. I know I remember multiple people saying they felt as if the final confrontation with Anderson and TIM was Shepard's mind in turmoil. Has anyone done a write up on this?

If I recall, Otter had a really in-depth analysis about the Freudian trio. 

That's in Mark II, if I find it I'll link to it. Bioware really needs to improve their search forum function btw.

[masster blaster]

Well TSA. I think so as well about Leviathan testing Shepard in the beginning of the game, but I do wonder, if Vedettas lines will change, or if the Leviathan will provide info on the Reapers weak spot's and maybe help save the lives of other people that died in the articals, but I really don't think Leviathan will just make one apperence and that's it.

I just hope we get to see a scene where Leviathan rips a Reaper in half. And make a grand entrence as the fleets did.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 août 2012 - 05:38 .

[RavenEyry]

smokingotter1 wrote...

I should have just copy pasted the entire name list from the 2000 page of Mark II because I knew I'd forget people,

I don't actually mind, I was just commenting. I haven't ever really added much to the discussions so I'm not worth mentioning anyway.

[TSA_383]

smokingotter1 wrote...

OMG, I'm going through the archives from the very first thread (for science) my god, Byne,Paxxton, hellish and fellish, Lexxor, Arian, masster blaster, and Simon (sorry I didn't mention [you]) have all been with the IT group all this time. I have too, just on reddit... anyway sorry for distraction, back to work, Mark II ahoy...just 2,000+ more pages to go.

I arrived about 1000 pages into the first thread I think...
When you see a picture of the "dream foliage" plant with "O RLY" on it in big red letters, that was the first thing I ever posted to an IT group, but wasn't on here...

[Lakeshow1986]

It's a shame, I read the old IT threads and it is just such a clever interpretation of the endings that I found very difficult to accept. The reapers greatest weapon was indoctrination and to try and manipulate Shepard at the end would have fit so well, it's just a shame that BioWare's EC reinforces a literal ending, even where Synthesis can happen :x

[masster blaster]

Lakeshow. You should stick around. There is more to think than you know about the ec, and it's dirty secrets about Leviathan of dis.

Also read the last page. You will find it very amussing.

[estebanus]

smokingotter1 wrote...

OMG, I'm going through the archives from the very first thread (for science) my god, Byne,Paxxton, hellish and fellish, Lexxor, Arian, masster blaster, and Simon (sorry I didn't mention [you]) have all been with the IT group all this time. I have too, just on reddit... anyway sorry for distraction, back to work, Mark II ahoy...just 2,000+ more pages to go.

I was there too, although I didn't really start talking until the late 900's, I think...

[RavenEyry]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

it's just a shame that BioWare's EC reinforces a literal ending

I disagree.

[masster blaster]

Okay I like to point out IT is not bad writing people, in fact for the people that call the endings bad writing, well did it ever accurd to you that um. Maybe if IT happence the bad writing will go away and we get the ending we all wanted.

Also for the people, that just play games to blow up stuff, well if IT happence did it ever came into mind that you could fight Harbinger if it was just an Indoctrinated test, and once Shepard wakes up. Then you can blow more s*** up.

Now for the people who say the endings are great. May I remind you that if IT happence, maybe there is a grand ending that has an end to Shepard and everone from ME.

Oh and just to make things clear on how could IT happen, well Bioware said they weren't going to do a mission failed thing, so what do you make out of Control, Synthesis, and refuse/ reject.

What only ending let's Shepard live as his/herself. Not any of the other endungs. Control does not count because that's not Shepard at all. It may have Shepard's memeories but that's not Shepard. So yes the endings are as they are because Bioware is not going to tell us which ending is right. It's up to us to figure it out, and most of us got the right idea.

Destroy end also ifor the people that believe in a war against the reapers by not useing the crucible, well maybe bioware will still use the crucible but as a weapon that you have to like the citadel and the crucible together. and use the citadel as a map canon, or an emp devise that takes down the reapers barriers.ing.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 août 2012 - 06:20 .

[jojon2se]

masster blaster wrote...
um who are you calling big boy?

Just a dumb little comment following up on the question:"Can you charm a Reaper?".

Depending on your standards, Reapers are fairly big (in a totally non-innuendo way).

[TSA_383]

http://social.biowar.../index/13557262
New thread by me! Yeeeaaaah!

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Okay I like to point out IT is not bad writing people, in fact for the people that call the endings bad writing, well did it ever accurd to you that um. Maybe if IT happence the bad writing will go away and we get the ending we all wanted.

Also for the people, that just play games to blow up stuff, well if IT happence did it ever came into mind that you could fight Harbinger if it was just an Indoctrinated test, and once Shepard wakes up. Then you can blow more s*** up.

Now for the people who say the endings are great. May I remind you that if IT happence, maybe there is a grand ending that has an end to Shepard and everone from ME.

Oh and just to make things clear on how could IT happen, well Bioware said they weren't going to do a mission failed thing, so what do you make out of Control, Synthesis, and refuse/ reject.

What only ending let's Shepard live as his/herself. Not any of the other endungs. Control does not count because that's not Shepard at all. It may have Shepard's memeories but that's not Shepard. So yes the endings are as they are because Bioware is not going to tell us which ending is right. It's up to us to figure it out, and most of us got the right idea.

Destroy ending.

Not true. Destroy is no more "right" than control. Both are very grey moral areas. By saying destroy is the only right choice, you invalidate all those who chose differently.

[RavenEyry]

estebanus wrote...
Not true. Destroy is no more "right" than control. Both are very grey moral areas. By saying destroy is the only right choice, you invalidate all those who chose differently.

Destroy is the right choice. I'm sorry but I can't put it any other way.

[masster blaster]

Not really Estebanus Destroy has been the goal since ME one, and It's the only ending that has Shepard alive, and to me it's on Earth/ London. Bioware never said it's on Earth. They always say maybe the breath scene is on the Citadel, or Shepard is taking a final last breath.

And Control is vage because we all know the brat makes a face when Shepard pickes Control.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 août 2012 - 06:24 .

[estebanus]

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Not true. Destroy is no more "right" than control. Both are very grey moral areas. By saying destroy is the only right choice, you invalidate all those who chose differently.

Destroy is the right choice. I'm sorry but I can't put it any other way.

I disagree with the aspect of there even being a right choice. Because there truly isn't All have their ups and downs.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Not really Estebanus Destroy has been the goal since ME one, and It's the only ending that has Shepard alive, and to me it's on Earth/ London. Bioware never said it's on Earth. They always say maybe the breath scene is on the Citadel, or Shepard is taking a final last breath.

And Control is vage because he all know the brat makes a face when Shepard pickes Control.

Destroying the reapers has never been the goal since ME1, stopping them has. And whether you like it or not, the reapers are stopped in each ending. Shepard being alive should have nothing to do with it.

Of course, I am arguing from a purely literal standpoint here.

Modifié par estebanus, 07 août 2012 - 06:26 .

[RavenEyry]

estebanus wrote...
I disagree with the aspect of there even being a right choice. Because there truly isn't All have their ups and downs.

There are 'ups' to being indoctrinated?

[MaximizedAction]

RavenEyry wrote...

estebanus wrote...
Not true. Destroy is no more "right" than control. Both are very grey moral areas. By saying destroy is the only right choice, you invalidate all those who chose differently.

Destroy is the right choice. I'm sorry but I can't put it any other way.

What's 'right' and not depends on what you assume about the ending. Not knowing for sure whether the Catalyst and the whole ending is fake or not makes it possible for destroy to really harm the Geth and EDI. Thus, by choosing destroy you might cause even more deaths, possibly in the numbers of a genocide.

From an IT standpoint it is the right thing, but there is no way of knowing for sure to the extend to call it morally right or wrong. It is right thematically, but that's not what you wrote.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 août 2012 - 06:28 .