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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Eryri wrote...

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If you can get past the fact that it's anime, some Anime has really good stories, like Code Geass, Eureka Seven, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, etc...


I've not been exposed to much anime, but I've enjoyed some of Studio Ghibli's stuff. Particularly Howl's Moving Castle. Lovely artwork and just the right amount of whimsicality.

I'm really not keen on some of the hyper violent, sexualised stuff though. I once watched a documentary about animation and they showed a brief clip of what I think is called "Hentai"? :sick: 

I wish I could unsee that stuff. If only Brain Bleach was a real product.


Nothing I mentioned is even remotely hentai. You can watch all kinds of good anime and avoid hentai completely. It's its own animal.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

If you can get past the fact that it's anime, some Anime has really good stories, like Code Geass, Eureka Seven, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, etc...


The only anime type thing i've ever watched was Avatar, which despite being pretty much in every way anime, is technically not, because it was made in the US.


...

This from the Katawa Shoujo fanboi?


Yup. Katawa Shoujo actually did get me interested in maybe watching anime at some point though.

If you liked KS, you would probably like K-ON

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Modifié par BatmanTurian, 15 décembre 2012 - 05:33 .


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Well, if you believe literal is the intended ending, then Bioware indoctrinated themselves. Would that make all the foreshadowing subconscious resistance? Whoooaaa. Lol.


Yeah, haha.

Banshee said earlier how Seival seems absolutely, positively, 100% indoctrinated for real. Imagine that not being on purpose. That means Bioware created a cursed story that got themselves indoctrinated.

It's like David Lynch's 'Inland Empire'. :lol:

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

If you can get past the fact that it's anime, some Anime has really good stories, like Code Geass, Eureka Seven, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, etc...


The only anime type thing i've ever watched was Avatar, which despite being pretty much in every way anime, is technically not, because it was made in the US.


...

This from the Katawa Shoujo fanboi?


Yup. Katawa Shoujo actually did get me interested in maybe watching anime at some point though.

When you do, I reccomend FMA or FMA:B. It's a great show even though it's anime. I have a friend who hates anime, so I made him watch it and he loved it. He still doesn't like most, which is understandable since most anime isn't that interesting (but that can be said for all electronic entertainment in general), but the FMA franchise, as well as the ones BatmanTurian reccomended, are. It also has similar animation style to Avatar with the exception that they do make funny faces to help lighten the mood, but it's not too far out there where it's just rediculous.

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well, if you believe literal is the intended ending, then Bioware indoctrinated themselves. Would that make all the foreshadowing subconscious resistance? Whoooaaa. Lol.


Yeah, haha.

Banshee said earlier how Seival seems absolutely, positively, 100% indoctrinated for real. Imagine that not being on purpose. That means they created a cursed story that got themselves indoctrinated.

It's like David Lynch's 'Inland Empire'. :lol:

or The Ring

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If you liked KS, you would probably like K-ON


Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people who like KS tend to like K-ON. I might have to give it a shot sometime.

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DD:
General Pete's comments at the beginning of Omega are pretty awesome too.


Oh? Do tell! :D

I did notice the massive foreshadowing in the reactor scene though, I posted a link for that earlier. And then there's line about Nyreen being easy to maipulate because she doesn't want to sacrifice innocents.

Forget exactly how it goes, but something about how we all sabotage ourselves in nefarious ways, fear of success, clouded judgment etc

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spotlessvoid wrote...

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DD:
General Pete's comments at the beginning of Omega are pretty awesome too.


Oh? Do tell! :D

I did notice the massive foreshadowing in the reactor scene though, I posted a link for that earlier. And then there's line about Nyreen being easy to maipulate because she doesn't want to sacrifice innocents.

Forget exactly how it goes, but something about how we all sabotage ourselves in nefarious ways, fear of success, clouded judgment etc


Sounds good, I'll check it out!

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byne wrote...

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If you liked KS, you would probably like K-ON


Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people who like KS tend to like K-ON. I might have to give it a shot sometime.

Do it. It's unbelievably adorable and it cheers me up to watch when I've had a sh*tty day.

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Someone kept mentioning how often the word nightmare is used in the game, so I threw together a collection of nightmare quotes from the vanilla game's tlk files. Enjoy.

Mission Tuchanka where you meet the Primarch's son

"The crash site's a nightmare."

Well the conduit run is sure as hell a crash site.

Upon turning and seeing a Reaper capital ship on Thessia,

EDI: I am starting to understand what the word "nightmare" means to organics.
EDI: And why you feel trapped when you can't wake up.

Tali: As a child, I always had nightmares about geth attacking me in my sleep.
Tali: The worst horror I could imagine. Until now.

Later on Thessia

Liara: This nightmare never ends.
Shepard: The hell it won't. We get to this artifact, and we can all wake up.

Shepard: What did you say to the Illusive Man?
Dr. Archer: I told him if his intention was to work with the devil, he only had to look in the mirror. I wanted out of his nightmare.

Out of TIM's nightmare, huh?

Dr. Archer (pulling a gun before killing himself with it): A precaution if I was ever captured by the enemy. Or couldn't wake from my nightmare.

Dr. Archer: I couldn't bear the thought of reliving the nightmare. So I destroyed all of my research--Overlord is no more.

Dr. Archer (Explaining Overlord to a Shepard that never played it): Believe me, it's a nightmare I re-live every night. He went berserk--his mind became a computer virus that infected all our systems.

Damn, Archer has a lot of "nightmare" dialogue. I'm sure it's just a coincidence and nothing to do with his synthesis-control stuff.

Shepard (to Vega): I can hardly believe it, myself. Like everything back on Earth was some kind of nightmare.

Turian Soldier: It's a shame to see another planet get hit like this.
Garrus: It'll be the last one if I have anything to say about it. This nightmare finally ends today.

Liara (encounting ravagers, Reaperized rachni, for the first time on Tuchanka): Now I can have all-new nightmares about them.

Unknown, at Ardat-Yakshi monastery: Now it's mutated asari. The Reapers are just a giant nightmare factory that never ends.

Shepard and Liara chatting on the Normandy:
"Too bad we never found another Prothean beacon."
"Haunting the Council with visions of the Reapers might've saved us a few years."
"Well, anyone who lives through this war won't be short on nightmares."

Garrus: Some of the crew seems shocked by the monstrosities we have encountered.
Javik: They haven't seen what the Reapers could corrupt after a hundred years. That was our war. Every battle conjured a new nightmare.

Unknown, after Rachni queen mission:
"I still have slime to clean off my armor."
"What a nightmare."
"Dark tunnels, toxic goo, and those damn cockroaches again?"

Unknown, after Rachni queen mission (Wrex or Wreav?): Sounds like it was a nightmare down there.

Allers doing a live report: Breaking now: A nightmare on Earth. Human leaders using military force on their own people.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

If you can get past the fact that it's anime, some Anime has really good stories, like Code Geass, Eureka Seven, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, etc...


The only anime type thing i've ever watched was Avatar, which despite being pretty much in every way anime, is technically not, because it was made in the US.


...

This from the Katawa Shoujo fanboi?


Yup. Katawa Shoujo actually did get me interested in maybe watching anime at some point though.


I'd sugguest Fruits Basket, it's far shorter than the original story as I've discovered, but the characters are fantastic, and much in the same vein as KS.

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Rifneno wrote...

Someone kept mentioning how often the word nightmare is used in the game, so I threw together a collection of nightmare quotes from the vanilla game's tlk files. Enjoy.
*nightmare,nightmare,nightmare, nightmare"

Damn :blink:

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

If you can get past the fact that it's anime, some Anime has really good stories, like Code Geass, Eureka Seven, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, etc...


The only anime type thing i've ever watched was Avatar, which despite being pretty much in every way anime, is technically not, because it was made in the US.


...

This from the Katawa Shoujo fanboi?


Yup. Katawa Shoujo actually did get me interested in maybe watching anime at some point though.


I'd sugguest Fruits Basket, it's far shorter than the original story as I've discovered, but the characters are fantastic, and much in the same vein as KS.

It can be a little too silly though. But I generally agree.

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Rifneno wrote...

Liara: This nightmare never ends.
Shepard: The hell it won't. We get to this artifact, and we can all wake up.


I always liked Javik during that one, because, just to be a troll, he says "50,000 years later" afterwards.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Liara: This nightmare never ends.
Shepard: The hell it won't. We get to this artifact, and we can all wake up.


I always liked Javik during that one, because, just to be a troll, he says "50,000 years later" afterwards.

I laughed and then immediately felt bad about laughing for a moment.

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Well, I'm out. See you all later.

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Well, I'm out. See you all later.

night

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Liara: This nightmare never ends.
Shepard: The hell it won't. We get to this artifact, and we can all wake up.


I always liked Javik during that one, because, just to be a troll, he says "50,000 years later" afterwards.


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Rifneno wrote...

Shepard and Liara chatting on the Normandy:
"Too bad we never found another Prothean beacon."
"Haunting the Council with visions of the Reapers might've saved us a few years."
"Well, anyone who lives through this war won't be short on nightmares."

Garrus: Some of the crew seems shocked by the monstrosities we have encountered.
Javik: They haven't seen what the Reapers could corrupt after a hundred years. That was our war. Every battle conjured a new nightmare.


Heyyyyyyy, these two are new to me. Added to the collection!

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Right at the beginning Doomsday

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Yeah, I'm off.

Later!

And remember kids:

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Right at the beginning Doomsday

Ah, Oleg Petrovsky. The Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Mass effect Universe.

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Right at the beginning Doomsday


Ah yes! Yes, I remember now, that rang my bell as well.

Thanks! :D

I'm really gone now. :P

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...



Right at the beginning Doomsday

Ah, Oleg Petrovsky. The Grand Admiral Thrawn of the Mass effect Universe.


The best way to end Omega is to go full on paragon so Aria spares Petroski... and then kill him youself.  javiktrollface.jpg

Aria thinks it's funny as hell.