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[Dwailing]

So, anyone here? Shepard?

[krokodyl1220]

Dwailing wrote...

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Meh, just for USA/UK/Canada residents <_<

And hello all 

[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The biggest strike against the VS being indoctrinated is, IMO, the fact that TIM gives the Eva the order to kill them. The Reapers wouldn't let TIM kill an indoctrinated agent that's in Shepard's inner circle.

That is a good point.  I think it's possible that Shepard's team may be in a state similar to Shepard's, I.E. possibly in the process of indoctrination, but not as far along, and resisting thanks to their faith in Shepard.  If Shepard fails in the endings, I could see there being MASSIVE reapercussions (See what I did there? ) for Shep's team.

I doubt TIM is indoctrinated in the beginning of ME3. Might be a little, though.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

I am here, though nothing on topic on my mind right now. Just got back from watching the Hobbit and it was great

[BatmanTurian]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

I am here, though nothing on topic on my mind right now. Just got back from watching the Hobbit and it was great

Gandalf: It's true

Saruman: No it's not
Elrond: Yeah, come on. Seriously?

Galadriel: Let the old guy talk already

Gandalf: so some stuff happened and this is why I think it's true and why you should believe me. It's perfectly reasonable. I even have evidence.

Saruman: You're such a conspiracy theorist
Elrond: Meh

Galadriel: *rolls her eyes*

That's basically how I saw the council scene (paraphrased) and it sounds like every argument I've ever seen or had on here.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 15 décembre 2012 - 07:49 .

[Dwailing]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The biggest strike against the VS being indoctrinated is, IMO, the fact that TIM gives the Eva the order to kill them. The Reapers wouldn't let TIM kill an indoctrinated agent that's in Shepard's inner circle.

That is a good point.  I think it's possible that Shepard's team may be in a state similar to Shepard's, I.E. possibly in the process of indoctrination, but not as far along, and resisting thanks to their faith in Shepard.  If Shepard fails in the endings, I could see there being MASSIVE reapercussions (See what I did there? ) for Shep's team.

I doubt TIM is indoctrinated in the beginning of ME3. Might be a little, though.

I'm fairly certain that he was indoctrinated by the beginning of ME3.  I think it would be safe to suggest that he was fully indoctrinated by at least some time around ME: Retribution, whether during or right after.

[Dwailing]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

I am here, though nothing on topic on my mind right now. Just got back from watching the Hobbit and it was great

Gandalf: It's true

Saruman: No it's not
Elrond: Yeah, come on. Seriously?

Galadriel: Let the old guy talk already

Gandalf: so some stuff happened and this is why I think it's true and why you should believe me. It's perfectly reasonable. I even have evidence.

Saruman: You're such a conspiracy theorist
Elrond: Meh

Galadriel: *rolls her eyes*

That's basically how I saw the council scene (paraphrased) and it sounds like every argument I've ever seen or had on here.

That... sounds about right, yeah.  Art imitating life, I guess.

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The biggest strike against the VS being indoctrinated is, IMO, the fact that TIM gives the Eva the order to kill them. The Reapers wouldn't let TIM kill an indoctrinated agent that's in Shepard's inner circle.

That is a good point.  I think it's possible that Shepard's team may be in a state similar to Shepard's, I.E. possibly in the process of indoctrination, but not as far along, and resisting thanks to their faith in Shepard.  If Shepard fails in the endings, I could see there being MASSIVE reapercussions (See what I did there? ) for Shep's team.

I doubt TIM is indoctrinated in the beginning of ME3. Might be a little, though.

LOL, TIM has been indoctrinated since the First Contact War.  He's been fighting it, but with what degree of success is anyone's guess.  He was clearly a lost cause as soon as the Reapers hit the Milky Way though.  Just like that asari scientist from Virmire.

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...

LOL, TIM has been indoctrinated since the First Contact War.  He's been fighting it, but with what degree of success is anyone's guess.  He was clearly a lost cause as soon as the Reapers hit the Milky Way though.  Just like that asari scientist from Virmire.

Yeah I took the human superiority advocate turning hundreds (at the very least) of humans into virtually mindless half husk slaves to be a sign he wasn't all there.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

LOL, TIM has been indoctrinated since the First Contact War.  He's been fighting it, but with what degree of success is anyone's guess.  He was clearly a lost cause as soon as the Reapers hit the Milky Way though.  Just like that asari scientist from Virmire.

Yeah I took the human superiority advocate turning hundreds (at the very least) of humans into virtually mindless half husk slaves to be a sign he wasn't all there.

When someone thinks bringing the remains of a Proto Reaper into the heart of his base (next to his office even) without taking any precautions, then he is a lost cause by miles.

[BatmanTurian]

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

I am here, though nothing on topic on my mind right now. Just got back from watching the Hobbit and it was great

Gandalf: It's true

Saruman: No it's not
Elrond: Yeah, come on. Seriously?

Galadriel: Let the old guy talk already

Gandalf: so some stuff happened and this is why I think it's true and why you should believe me. It's perfectly reasonable. I even have evidence.

Saruman: You're such a conspiracy theorist
Elrond: Meh

Galadriel: *rolls her eyes*

That's basically how I saw the council scene (paraphrased) and it sounds like every argument I've ever seen or had on here.

That... sounds about right, yeah.  Art imitating life, I guess.

Pretty much. Weird how coincidences like that happen, like Dark Side of the Moon played to The Wizard of Oz.

[dorktainian]

VS. i always hated the way Ash talked to my shep on horizon. So out of character. My god woman shep slept with you and all you can do is the cold hearted b1tch routine?

Then again everyone apart from shepard could be indoctrinated.....he could be the last to fall.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

dorktainian wrote...

VS. i always hated the way Ash talked to my shep on horizon. So out of character. My god woman shep slept with you and all you can do is the cold hearted b1tch routine?

Then again everyone apart from shepard could be indoctrinated.....he could be the last to fall.

If taht was the case I am pretty sure they would have knocked Shepard out while he was sleeping and flown him off to the Reapers for full Indoctrination long ago. I mean the Normandy allready works pretty much of the grid with its Stealth Drive and all, so it dropping out of contact for some time could probably be explained away to Hacket and the like.

[DoomsdayDevice]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The biggest strike against the VS being indoctrinated is, IMO, the fact that TIM gives the Eva the order to kill them. The Reapers wouldn't let TIM kill an indoctrinated agent that's in Shepard's inner circle.

That is a good point.  I think it's possible that Shepard's team may be in a state similar to Shepard's, I.E. possibly in the process of indoctrination, but not as far along, and resisting thanks to their faith in Shepard.  If Shepard fails in the endings, I could see there being MASSIVE reapercussions (See what I did there? ) for Shep's team.

I doubt TIM is indoctrinated in the beginning of ME3. Might be a little, though.

Are you kidding me?

On Mars, he's already talking about wanting to control the Reapers instead of destroying them.

Not to mention the fact that Cerberus is already using 'improved' soldiers. You know, 'integrated' people.

Aethyta: I've heard stories about the Reapers messing with your head.
Liara: They're more than stories. I've seen it. Every Cerberus soldier is a Reaper slave.

[dorktainian]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

VS. i always hated the way Ash talked to my shep on horizon. So out of character. My god woman shep slept with you and all you can do is the cold hearted b1tch routine?

Then again everyone apart from shepard could be indoctrinated.....he could be the last to fall.

If taht was the case I am pretty sure they would have knocked Shepard out while he was sleeping and flown him off to the Reapers for full Indoctrination long ago. I mean the Normandy allready works pretty much of the grid with its Stealth Drive and all, so it dropping out of contact for some time could probably be explained away to Hacket and the like.

the normandy is full of reaper tech so thats not a problem......much.  ash being an arss is not out of place but if i'd seen my dead lover standing in front of me....alive, I wouldnt have been all pi55y.  unless she wasa zombie....or in me2's case what she appeared to be to us was not what she appeared to be to the un-indoctrinated.    


*edit* as in is we're normal we see husk, if we're indoctrinated we see normal.... oh heck.  i'll get mi coat

Modifié par dorktainian, 15 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .

[Rifneno]

RavenEyry wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

LOL, TIM has been indoctrinated since the First Contact War.  He's been fighting it, but with what degree of success is anyone's guess.  He was clearly a lost cause as soon as the Reapers hit the Milky Way though.  Just like that asari scientist from Virmire.

Yeah I took the human superiority advocate turning hundreds (at the very least) of humans into virtually mindless half husk slaves to be a sign he wasn't all there.

Hardly.  They're being improved.  <takes a sip of Thessia Red>

[FirstBlood XL]

Rifneno wrote...

The reason the VS survives Horizon is simple. The Reapers are looking for the best of humanity to "ascend." Ash and Kaiden are the suck.

Amen to that,  brother.

[dorktainian]

is the VS 'really' the VS?

[Arashi08]

Soo...recently I was playing the new Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim, enjoying eing able to fly on the back of a dragon. when I remembered how some of the elements in the story were similar to the way indoctrination works in certain situations, such as touching an ancient artifact and suddenly becoming a mindless drone but resusting it through your will. Not that I think this has anything to do with IT but it just seems funny that I'm seeing ideas similar to ME's indoctrination popping up everywhere in other games, on TV and films too. Not that they weren't around before but I must be focusing on them now, thx alot IT thread.

Oh and btw, being able to fly over the skies of Skyrim on Odahviing...may just be the best thing ever...just sayin. Even makes me reconsider putting dragons in my novel, even though I said "NO! No dragons! we are NOT doing that cliche!"

apparently being able to ride a dragon makes you reconsider.

Modifié par Arashi08, 15 décembre 2012 - 09:14 .

[Rifneno]

dorktainian wrote...

is the VS 'really' the VS?

You mean like are they going to have a "Shepard had sex with a Reaper clone" angle?  No.  No, they are not going to do that.  In over 7,000 pages, I have never been more sure of anything.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Arashi08 wrote...

Soo...recently I was playing the new Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim, enjoying eing able to fly on the back of a dragon. when I remembered how some of the elements in the story were similar to the way indoctrination works in certain situations, such as touching an ancient artifact and suddenly becoming a mindless drone but resusting it through your will. Not that I think this has anything to do with IT but it just seems funny that I'm seeing ideas similar to ME's indoctrination popping up everytwhere in other games, on TV and films too. Not that they weren't around before but I must be focusing on them now, thx alot IT thread.

Ah and btw, being able to fly over the skies of Skyrim on Odahviing...may just be the best thing ever...just sayin. Even makes me reconsider putting dragons in my novel, even though I said "NO! No dragons! we are NOT doing that cliche!"

apparently being able to ride a dragon makes you reconsider.

I am a huge sucker for dragons personally (just take a look at my avatar) and my own stories center heavily around dragons most of the time. Hell my longest running story (fan fiction in this case) has no humans in it at all, instead following two dragons through their life together. It is currently longer than the the first Lord of the Rings book...

But really people say dragons are cliche, I say people are simply not creative enough with them.

[401 Kill]

Has anything of interest happenned??

[dreamgazer]

Rifneno wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

is the VS 'really' the VS?

You mean like are they going to have a "Shepard had sex with a Reaper clone" angle?  No.  No, they are not going to do that.  In over 7,000 pages, I have never been more sure of anything.

Branching off that tangent a bit: do you guys actually think BioWare would ever have the stones to force their brand of audience to stomach the idea of romancing (among other things) an indoctrinated squad member?

[dorktainian]

Rifneno wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

is the VS 'really' the VS?

You mean like are they going to have a "Shepard had sex with a Reaper clone" angle?  No.  No, they are not going to do that.  In over 7,000 pages, I have never been more sure of anything.

 don't write off anything yet.